My Account
Report problem with this ad
Start a related thread
Start a related poll
Reply via Boardmail
Sep 26, 2017
2:16
:47
pm
boscatar
Walk-on
Yup. 2012. SJSU went 11-2. That was the year they beat us 20-14 in San Jose...
Start a related thread
Start a related poll
Reply via Boardmail
Report problem with this ad
boscatar
New username
Doogal McCougar
Bio page
boscatar
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Last login
Oct 14, 2019
Total posts
0 (0 FO)
Report problem with this ad
Messages
Author
Time
G5 isn't sustainable. The p5 gap will increase 2 fold-So stop with this nonsense
TheFed
9/25/17 2:57pm
So.....it's all over. BYU is done? Because they are not getting invited....
WJCougar
9/25/17 2:59pm
This notion that independence is less sustainable than G5 is nonsense
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 3:03pm
It is not looking very sustainable right now.
WJCougar
9/25/17 3:06pm
What does that even mean to you?
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 3:08pm
It's a phrase seen on CB so it gets regurgitated without meaning.
Lip Gallagher
9/25/17 3:42pm
Of course it has meaning...and people are right when they say it.
WJCougar
9/25/17 4:13pm
Tom Holmoe isn't a CBer
Polecat
9/25/17 5:35pm
It means BYU is going nowhere with Independence.
WJCougar
9/25/17 4:13pm
Yes I do. The schedules are getting better, we make more money, we have more exposure, and we are getting a different
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 4:22pm
I would love to agree with you....but nothing in the past 7 years has shown....
WJCougar
9/25/17 4:29pm
You need to go look at the schedules for the next 4 years. It is getting better.
Lance71
9/25/17 4:31pm
The schedules aren’t where they need to be but look in the near future
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 4:41pm
We wouldn't win the conf this yr. Do you think 4th in MWC/AAC would be better?
Bobmarleyjr
9/25/17 4:29pm
It would be the same this year whether or not BYU was AAC or Independent.
WJCougar
9/25/17 4:30pm
Maybe but most people won t pay attention to how good we are compared to AAC
Bobmarleyjr
9/25/17 8:23pm
It's obvious many people on here are not smart about economic realities.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 2:59pm
I don't know what will happen. All I know is with Indy there is too much
cougschwa
9/25/17 3:04pm
No there isnt. The pressure needs to be on being ranked at years end
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:06pm
<< Deleted >>
sgriff
9/25/17 3:00pm
BYU is G5... independence didn't change that
Coug
9/25/17 3:01pm
It actually did change their revenue model significantly.
boogers
9/25/17 3:02pm
Boise State has a similar financial situation with the MWC...
Coug
9/25/17 3:03pm
If by "similar" you mean "substantially inferior" then yes.
mik3
9/25/17 3:08pm
It did. For 2015 (last year data available),
Everyman
9/25/17 3:13pm
Yeah it did. See G5 slot for NY6. BYU is not G5.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:02pm
So, BYU is in a worse position since their chance of NY6 is so small?
WJCougar
9/25/17 3:03pm
Depends on what your overall view of the big picture for BYU is
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:04pm
What is this big picture you are thinking of?
WJCougar
9/25/17 3:05pm
It wasn't happening in the MWC either. And never will for any MWC team.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:08pm
Wait... What? We have as much of a chance to make the playoffs...
Coug
9/25/17 3:07pm
Way better than G5 due to SOS. They will not make it. See TCU/Baylor.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:10pm
Our SOS has only slightly changed...
Coug
9/25/17 3:20pm
Most AAC teams had a harder SOS than BYU last year. So did Utah State. It will
Scratch
9/25/17 3:41pm
NM
Scratch
9/25/17 3:40pm
BYU is not G5. That is a fact.
Gentleman Stan
9/25/17 3:03pm
Haha, we are... we just don't belong to a G5 conference...
Coug
9/25/17 3:05pm
We're less than G5. G5 has an auto tie-in to post-season. BYU doesn't have that.
foofcoug
9/25/17 3:06pm
Two things. First, belonging to a G5 conference is the very definition of "G5." Second, by any measure you want to use,
CalGTR
9/25/17 5:11pm
So we make more money and have more fans...
Coug
9/25/17 5:22pm
Nor are they P5....which is fact.
WJCougar
9/25/17 3:06pm
BYU is not P5. People that say BYU is P5 are denying the facts, same as those that say BYU is G5. Neither is true.
Gentleman Stan
9/25/17 3:54pm
So, BYU is nothing?
WJCougar
9/25/17 4:14pm
RE: So, BYU is nothing?
Gentleman Stan
9/25/17 7:38pm
Until BYU gets into a conference and become relevant again like Houston, SDST,
blackshirts
9/25/17 8:30pm
I don't see many, if any, claiming that we're P5. We all know we don't belong to a P5 conference.
CalGTR
9/25/17 5:13pm
Remind me. What p5 league are we in?
Backcountry
9/25/17 9:02pm
It significantly changed that. BYU is not G5.
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 3:03pm
How?
Coug
9/25/17 3:09pm
“BYU is not G5”
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 3:14pm
Correct, BYU is Indy. Indy is Umass, Army, and BYU.
blackshirts
9/25/17 8:37pm
Correct
YIsForBrigham
9/25/17 9:05pm
By definition BYU isn't P5 or G5 as we're not a member of either conference type
BYU Fan
9/25/17 3:04pm
Which of these programs has finished the season ranked in the last 5 years?
boscatar
9/25/17 3:03pm
Aaand, being part of the MWC would have changed that somehow?
boogers
9/25/17 3:03pm
Of course it would. It's still not worth it for me but
cougfanz
9/25/17 3:06pm
This is the harsh reality of the situation
kolob32
9/25/17 3:29pm
Some of our best BYU teams - 2001, 2006, 2007, 2009 - had pretty weak schedules
boscatar
9/25/17 3:29pm
Absolutely. (though, I prefer expanded AAC over MWC).
boscatar
9/25/17 3:15pm
Ouch, are you kidding, San Jose State?
insidebyu
9/25/17 6:43pm
We lost to SJSU that season... I think it was 2012 or 2013.
Coug
9/25/17 7:30pm
Yup. 2012. SJSU went 11-2. That was the year they beat us 20-14 in San Jose...
boscatar
9/26/17 2:16pm
G5 and indy are both unsustainable so I guess we're just screwed.
sgriff
9/25/17 3:09pm
BYU has been in the black every year of independence. That seems sustainable.
Lance71
9/25/17 3:14pm
Sorry to break it to you but the gap between Indy vs. P5 is same as G5 vs. P5
kolob32
9/25/17 3:20pm
The reality of independence income for BYU does not support that conclusion.
Lance71
9/25/17 3:33pm
Really? You realize BYU has better finances than every other G5 right? 100% of them.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:35pm
So BYU was losing money when it was part of MWC?
kolob32
9/25/17 3:38pm
Who said anything about losing money? This is about revenue generation.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:41pm
What has the revenue done for BYU? The BYU "brand" hasn't increased since indy
kolob32
9/25/17 3:44pm
You mean, other than being on ESPN nearly every week? That's a "brand" increase.
Lance71
9/25/17 3:49pm
ESPN has been huge. I think our football reputation hasn't increased much since
kolob32
9/25/17 4:00pm
OK, let's go back and win in the kiddie pool! Yeah!!! Brand improved by beating teams no one cares about! Woo!
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:50pm
I wouldn't call Houston, Boise St, USF, UCF etc the kiddie poll.
kolob32
9/25/17 4:03pm
BSU is the only one who isn't. The rest have zero consistency to claim otherwise.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 4:08pm
Put your feet down, you're in the kidding pool! When BYU gets into a Super-Confe
blackshirts
9/25/17 6:07pm
RE: Really? You realize BYU has better finances than every other G5 right?
Twturner5
9/25/17 3:39pm
Doubt it. They still need games, and still make all that revenue with that league.
Turnpike Lane
9/25/17 3:43pm
So which G5 team has as many nationally broadcast games as BYU??
Stalwart Man
9/25/17 7:50pm
When you're getting your butt kicked national TV is a negitive.
blackshirts
9/25/17 8:14pm
So the gap is just as big but our schedules are guaranteed to suck worse in G5?
Resurgens
9/25/17 7:55pm
The P2 gap is getting wider from the other so called power conferences as well.
Pasadena
9/25/17 3:38pm
Thank you! Mic drop. G5 isn't. the gap will widen. Only chance of keeping it
Idahofallsblue
9/25/17 3:41pm
So there will be a large gap, instead of a massive gap. Yeah i guess every
Polecat
9/25/17 5:34pm
Yes
Idahofallsblue
9/25/17 5:47pm
If we stay Indy long enough religion may become the new trend and we get grabbed
Y4LYFE
9/25/17 4:28pm
My preference is G5 you prefer indy let's agree to disagree go Cougs!
franklyvulgar
9/25/17 4:31pm
So BYU football is not sustainable. The P5's are not going to invite a Mormon
Polecat
9/25/17 5:33pm
You're right!! The gap between P4 and GX(the rest) will increase dramatically.
blackshirts
9/25/17 6:02pm
Observations of attendance at BYU football games.
Rob of NV
9/25/17 6:23pm
A key issue here is what is our definition of "sustainable"?
insidebyu
9/25/17 6:49pm
Report problem with this ad
Posting on CougarBoard
In order to post, you will need to either
sign up
or
log in
.
Report problem with this ad