I hate to say it but I have to...these are all valid points.

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May 26, 2016
5:24:41pm

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And it wasn't nearly as smugly said as at other times and by other people.

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Will Big12 expansion affect Utah

SnickSnack

5/25/16 10:03am

I don't care how it impacts Utah. I care how it impacts BYU

concolor couguar

5/25/16 10:05am

Duhh...read the article.

SnickSnack

5/25/16 10:06am

Why? The very premise has no interest to me

concolor couguar

5/25/16 10:07am

Then why are you commenting on the post? If you have no interest

erodcoug

5/25/16 10:11am

I did have a comment for the post though

concolor couguar

5/25/16 10:13am

Ok than just make real quick comments on the premise of everything you read.

SnickSnack

5/25/16 10:13am

Yep. If BYU gets in yewts lose the P5 superiority argument.

Harrison0Yfan

5/25/16 10:06am

"BYU is not a P5 opponent in any respect including the logo on the jersey"

Tokolosh

5/25/16 10:13am

Why does this sound like a Jackie Robinson argument?

SnickSnack

5/25/16 10:15am

Are you comparing us to the first black man to be allowed in MLB?

SpecialT

5/25/16 4:55pm

Except in scheduling for P5 teams.

Squeegee

5/25/16 10:18am

BYU is considered "P5" by just about everybody now...except Utah fans.

ol' Blue Eyes

5/25/16 10:18am

Playoff committee included?

Tokolosh

5/25/16 10:19am

RE: Playoff committee included?

Huge Manatee

5/25/16 10:26am

Yes.

Lance71

5/25/16 10:27am

Sure. They go undefeated, they're in; same as virtually everyone else who is P5

Twin Roots

5/25/16 10:27am

They just have to be ranked in the top 4...just like the P5 teams. Doesn't have

ol' Blue Eyes

5/25/16 10:33am

Technically sure, but realistically

Twin Roots

5/25/16 11:17am

conference affiliation is 100% irrelevant.

Dissenter

5/25/16 11:23am

Yes, a top 4 determined by the committee which was setup by the P5.

Tokolosh

5/25/16 12:07pm

In 2015, a BYU team at 12-0 would be CFP top 6 easy. Above PAC-12 champ.

StalwartBraveTrue

5/25/16 1:04pm

Top 6 is still not playoffs. Top 4 or bust, not sur BYU gets that respect.

Tokolosh

5/25/16 1:32pm

A 12-0 BYU gets into the playoff. Don't even kid

Dissenter

5/25/16 2:08pm

After all the press we've gotten about our hard schedule, we get in at 12-0.

Harrison0Yfan

5/25/16 2:12pm

Heck a 12-0 Houston would probably get in this year

Dissenter

5/25/16 2:13pm

I don't expect you to be "sur". That isn't the point.

StalwartBraveTrue

5/25/16 10:18pm

Generally speaking, when people communicate something, there is a point.

Gentleman Stan

5/25/16 2:16pm

Strange yet simple logic.

byujdmba

5/25/16 10:45am

Does it depend on your definition of "is" ?

Bgash

5/25/16 1:02pm

I've always wanted to see a 2008 Utah fan debate a 2016 Utah fan about status.

Art Director

5/25/16 10:14am

2008 Fan says please please let us in the big league. 2016 Fan says it is PACMAS

ALUF 1990

5/25/16 11:04am

2008 fan also said the system was unfair. 2016 fan has embraced the system like

Carnac el Magnifico

5/25/16 11:16am

The fans I knew in 2008 were tired of playing CSU & New Mexico and wanted to

ALUF 1990

5/25/16 11:59am

The issue to me is that

CMuehle

5/25/16 12:08pm

Yep. This exactly.

LifeLongLakerFan

5/25/16 1:23pm

This pretty much sums up Utah fan hypocrisy over the last 6 years.

StalwartBraveTrue

5/25/16 10:20pm

In some ways, it's unfortunate that Utah stuggled when they joined the P12....

SnickSnack

5/25/16 11:26am

My guess: 2004 team would have finished 2nd to USC. 2009 would have been

ALUF 1990

5/25/16 12:07pm

Cal in 04

SconnieCoug

5/25/16 2:06pm

RE: 2008 Fan says please please let us in the big league. 2016 Fan says it is

Thunderdome

5/25/16 12:17pm

The issue has less to do about Utah's P5 status and more to do with

TFL

5/25/16 2:58pm

Go look at past polls. Utah is an important game this year. Nothing more.

Lance71

5/25/16 3:38pm

this is so false

Dissenter

5/25/16 3:44pm

I know there are some that have your opinion, but you are a minority

Lance71

5/25/16 4:09pm

No, I'm not. Utah is our biggest game, bar none

Dissenter

5/25/16 4:18pm

I disagree. If we're playing well, there are many games that would be big games.

ol' Blue Eyes

5/25/16 4:32pm

That weak sched includes a home slate better than any in BYU's entire history

ALUF 1990

5/25/16 5:10pm

Yeah...get all the tougher games at home. Try playing them all over the country!

ol' Blue Eyes

5/25/16 7:04pm

OSU, WSU...can say the same thing about their schudules...

truecougster

5/25/16 7:23pm

I was addressing the ridiculous assertion by ol' Blue Eyes that Utah has a weak

ALUF 1990

5/26/16 8:49am

Yeah... thats bull

Dissenter

5/26/16 9:18am

Ok. Then explain what Bronco implied by independence being unsustainable. Does

ALUF 1990

5/26/16 11:33am

Bronco was wrong

Harrison0Yfan

5/26/16 8:08pm

This could get sideways between us in a hurry...so I'll say this

truecougster

5/26/16 11:42am

I understand what you're saying but that's part of the problem

TFL

5/26/16 12:18pm

The winning was a bonus - no doubt

truecougster

5/26/16 2:02pm

Mostly agree. I seriously doubt Whit is teaching players to hate BYU from day 1

ALUF 1990

5/26/16 2:40pm

I hate to say it but I have to...these are all valid points.

StalwartBraveTrue

5/26/16 5:24pm

Only the self worth of its fans.

mulletYno

5/25/16 10:56am

Reading that was the biggest waste of my time in the last 5 years.

Blue for Life

5/25/16 11:40am

Will benefit yewtah. Makes the rivalry game a bigger deal nationally

AZcougLawyer

5/25/16 12:31pm

But I guess that's more a benefit to the conferences than to yewtah.

AZcougLawyer

5/25/16 12:34pm

It would hurt Utah's recruiting. Utah and BYU compete for many of the same kids.

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