3rd place in the WCC seems to most logical ending again this year, unless something unusual happens.

May 23, 2017
9:39:26am

Turnpike Lane CB Addict

And that is the problem. Fans used to be ok with 3rd in the MWC because it had more depth back then, but 3rd place in a 3-team league isn't that hot.

Until BYU proves otherwise on the court, Gonzaga and SMC are better programs right now.

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BYU resurgence! the case for optimism and an improved season. Talent enhancement, strategic changes could offset losses.

roseyscenario All-American

5/23/17 8:25am

The title of this has been the preseason hope of the last 3 years "Those players

fbguru

5/23/17 8:30am

Good post as usual Rosey.

thebruce

5/23/17 8:30am

Good thoughts but why is a veteran coach

PortlandCoug

5/23/17 8:40am

Are the mods going to allow this spelling mistake?

fbguru

5/23/17 8:55am

There are ebbs and flows that happen slowly over time that can be...

icecougar

5/23/17 7:44pm

Very nice write-up, Rosey. I certainly hope your predictions come true!

BoiseBlue

5/23/17 8:44am

RE: BYU reloading! the case for optimism and an improved season. Talent enhancement, strategic changes could offset

Funke

5/23/17 8:48am

So we should be excited about a potential nameless recruit that will be amazing

kotacoug

5/23/17 8:54am

2015, the year you cite as "greatness", created another 3rd place in WCC play

BDAWG

5/23/17 9:00am

Not so. 2015 BYU finished #28 on Pomeroy, lost in Play-in NCAA, was #10 PPP in offense, but had a poor defense at #139

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:17am

Get Jazzed. 3rd Place in the WCC. Yeah, baby.

BDAWG

5/23/17 9:30am

^^^Boise State fan ^^^

Cochise Cat

5/23/17 11:39am

I think the OP cited that it was "offensive greatness."

CFMcK

5/23/17 11:39am

Let me help, the BEST OFFENSE is a GREAT DEFENSE.

BDAWG

5/23/17 12:23pm

You are very close

CFMcK

5/23/17 3:35pm

There is nothing "great" about 3rd place in a Mid Major Conference.

BDAWG

5/23/17 10:09pm

Alright, here's the thing

CFMcK

5/24/17 1:23am

I'm most excited about Schroyer. BYU is going to be better defensively.

Mark320

5/24/17 7:10am

This is laughable.

BDAWG

5/24/17 7:21am

Why do you keep assuming we'll take third next year?

CFMcK

5/24/17 10:05am

Exactly, and even then, hand-wringing about "third place" in the WCC is

BerkeleyCoug

5/24/17 10:58am

It's NCAA time next year, 20+ wins, 2nd place, 3rd place, Top 25 yada yada

OC Coug

5/24/17 11:16am

RE: This is laughable.

roseyscenario

6/30/17 8:13pm

I optimistically agree with just about everything you said. I hope the changes

TBabyCougs

5/23/17 9:03am

Thanks Rosey. I have to say I'm very concerned that BYU was ever in a situation

Saxa

5/23/17 9:08am

No assurances but we know they are working on it.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:18am

I have a feeling this year will look more like 2015

thebruce

5/23/17 9:23am

That's about what i would guess also. But can't they do better than #139 on defense?

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:27am

If I were to guess I would say around 100-125 on D

thebruce

5/23/17 9:51am

We were 87th last year and 69th the year before

Coop

5/23/17 10:11am

Fair points--a few reasons

thebruce

5/23/17 11:47am

This is such a strong informative post, it ought to be reposted as an OP.

roseyscenario

5/25/17 2:01am

You know your stuff, but I'm leery of small ball for a couple of reasons

Coop

5/25/17 7:52am

Man, i'm blind. 2015 was 139, not 159. Thanks!

roseyscenario

5/23/17 11:59am

The addition of Schroyer gives Dave a huge opportunity

CaliWG

5/23/17 10:04am

I would add that the best way to improve the offense is to look backward

CaliWG

5/23/17 9:32am

Doesn't "reloading" imply you were good?

Huge Manatee

5/23/17 9:32am

I think the player to watch will be Dastrup.

Oldcougfan

5/23/17 9:35am

Worthington's 5 fouls per game could come in handy

Coop

5/23/17 9:40am

As long as they don't all occur within 2 minutes of game time.

dilbert

5/23/17 12:41pm

3rd place in the WCC seems to most logical ending again this year, unless something unusual happens.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 9:39am

3rd place these days means you aren't a top 20 team nationally

Indy Coug

5/23/17 9:41am

I'm not upset. I'm just not willing to drink the koolaid just yet. 3rd is most likely again.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 9:59am

LBJ's team leading assists while only playing 1/3 of the season should be the BYUSN dead season Stat of the Day.

Q-grr

5/23/17 9:41am

It shows how selfish the other PGs were on the roster. That has to change next year.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 10:00am

BYU was 64th of 351 teams in assists per FGM

Indy Coug

5/23/17 10:04am

Emery lovers don't take this wrong, 'cuz I like his spunk, but how far behind was he with assists?

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:01am

RE: Emery lovers don't take this wrong, 'cuz I like his spunk, but how far behind was he with assists?

Indy Coug

5/23/17 11:04am

Rose started 73% of the season's games

Indy Coug

5/23/17 11:09am

I must have misread the info or read some Fake News, sorry. Carry on.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:12am

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roseyscenario

5/23/17 11:19am

I did miss read, it was missed a 1/3 of the season.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:27am

Some of the issues with this team I wouldn't consider using the term reloading

mosterlow

5/23/17 10:08am

OK i'll edit. revival or resurgence? These words are stronger than intended but i acknowledge imprecise use of reload.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 10:52am

I'd say we have to jump the Gap if we want to improve, definitely not a reload.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:03am

Regarding that 2014-2015 offense.

ag4cougs

5/23/17 10:37am

I'm keeping an open mind this upcoming season. I don't think much will surprise

Mark320

5/23/17 10:47am

I would plan on supplies from the Orient before an Elite 8

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:06am

Great post Rosey, as usual. I expect more 3s a more open middle.

Coogar2

5/23/17 11:27am

I'm curious to know your thoughts on Dastrup. Seemed he was in the doghouse.

blueaussie

5/23/17 11:48am

Very good post. BUT......there are lots of IF's

JadedCougar

5/23/17 11:51am

the biggest gut punch for fans is readjusting expectations from hoping for deep

Bostonblue

5/23/17 11:56am

I agree!

JadedCougar

5/23/17 12:32pm

I'm surprised no one has asked you about your comment that we could add another

Y's Guide

5/23/17 2:03pm

Probably some low level foreigner like Ambrosino or something

thebruce

5/23/17 2:27pm

Based on their recruiting of Springer ... probably a lengthy wing who can shoot

runnincoug

5/23/17 2:42pm

Oh bruce.....😃

Ryan M

5/23/17 8:30pm

CBers shouldn't underestimate the impact Schroyer will have. BYU SN reported...

icecougar

5/23/17 3:07pm

I don't think CBers should estimate the impact. Period. Just let it play out.

Indy Coug

5/23/17 3:11pm

There goes 2/3rds of the post traffic on CB. Isn't that the point of a message..

icecougar

5/23/17 7:27pm

Man I love rosey's posts! Wish I was an FO for you. Guessing there are some

jcase16byu

5/23/17 3:48pm

Thanks bro. Would add more if El Jefe would permit it. But i don't add much there. Friends there add much more than me.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 4:13pm

Excellent write up but I disagree with 90% of your premises

gurt

5/23/17 7:05pm

i like the way you said that. Look forward to your comments.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 7:43pm

Ahh. Well. That does change some things

gurt

5/23/17 9:56pm

Yep that's my job with these epistles.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 10:10pm

20 wins is likely, 3rd place finish would be good

Y4LYFE

5/23/17 9:16pm

Thanks for the post! Excited to hear about possible additions.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

5/24/17 1:40pm

+1. Possible is about right expectation. Fingers crossed.

roseyscenario

5/24/17 1:48pm

2014-2015 season comparison

Cougforgood

5/24/17 2:12pm

100% agree

roseyscenario

5/24/17 3:22pm

Just win baby

Cougforgood

5/24/17 4:30pm

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