There is nothing "great" about 3rd place in a Mid Major Conference.

May 23, 2017
10:09:46pm

BDAWG All-American

We are talking about 3rd place in the WCC. There is nothing great about that. Not the coaching, not the offense and not the defense.

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BYU resurgence! the case for optimism and an improved season. Talent enhancement, strategic changes could offset losses.

roseyscenario All-American

5/23/17 8:25am

The title of this has been the preseason hope of the last 3 years "Those players

fbguru

5/23/17 8:30am

Good post as usual Rosey.

thebruce

5/23/17 8:30am

Good thoughts but why is a veteran coach

PortlandCoug

5/23/17 8:40am

Are the mods going to allow this spelling mistake?

fbguru

5/23/17 8:55am

There are ebbs and flows that happen slowly over time that can be...

icecougar

5/23/17 7:44pm

Very nice write-up, Rosey. I certainly hope your predictions come true!

BoiseBlue

5/23/17 8:44am

RE: BYU reloading! the case for optimism and an improved season. Talent enhancement, strategic changes could offset

Funke

5/23/17 8:48am

So we should be excited about a potential nameless recruit that will be amazing

kotacoug

5/23/17 8:54am

2015, the year you cite as "greatness", created another 3rd place in WCC play

BDAWG

5/23/17 9:00am

Not so. 2015 BYU finished #28 on Pomeroy, lost in Play-in NCAA, was #10 PPP in offense, but had a poor defense at #139

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:17am

Get Jazzed. 3rd Place in the WCC. Yeah, baby.

BDAWG

5/23/17 9:30am

^^^Boise State fan ^^^

Cochise Cat

5/23/17 11:39am

I think the OP cited that it was "offensive greatness."

CFMcK

5/23/17 11:39am

Let me help, the BEST OFFENSE is a GREAT DEFENSE.

BDAWG

5/23/17 12:23pm

You are very close

CFMcK

5/23/17 3:35pm

There is nothing "great" about 3rd place in a Mid Major Conference.

BDAWG

5/23/17 10:09pm

Alright, here's the thing

CFMcK

5/24/17 1:23am

I'm most excited about Schroyer. BYU is going to be better defensively.

Mark320

5/24/17 7:10am

This is laughable.

BDAWG

5/24/17 7:21am

Why do you keep assuming we'll take third next year?

CFMcK

5/24/17 10:05am

Exactly, and even then, hand-wringing about "third place" in the WCC is

BerkeleyCoug

5/24/17 10:58am

It's NCAA time next year, 20+ wins, 2nd place, 3rd place, Top 25 yada yada

OC Coug

5/24/17 11:16am

RE: This is laughable.

roseyscenario

6/30/17 8:13pm

I optimistically agree with just about everything you said. I hope the changes

TBabyCougs

5/23/17 9:03am

Thanks Rosey. I have to say I'm very concerned that BYU was ever in a situation

Saxa

5/23/17 9:08am

No assurances but we know they are working on it.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:18am

I have a feeling this year will look more like 2015

thebruce

5/23/17 9:23am

That's about what i would guess also. But can't they do better than #139 on defense?

roseyscenario

5/23/17 9:27am

If I were to guess I would say around 100-125 on D

thebruce

5/23/17 9:51am

We were 87th last year and 69th the year before

Coop

5/23/17 10:11am

Fair points--a few reasons

thebruce

5/23/17 11:47am

This is such a strong informative post, it ought to be reposted as an OP.

roseyscenario

5/25/17 2:01am

You know your stuff, but I'm leery of small ball for a couple of reasons

Coop

5/25/17 7:52am

Man, i'm blind. 2015 was 139, not 159. Thanks!

roseyscenario

5/23/17 11:59am

The addition of Schroyer gives Dave a huge opportunity

CaliWG

5/23/17 10:04am

I would add that the best way to improve the offense is to look backward

CaliWG

5/23/17 9:32am

Doesn't "reloading" imply you were good?

Huge Manatee

5/23/17 9:32am

I think the player to watch will be Dastrup.

Oldcougfan

5/23/17 9:35am

Worthington's 5 fouls per game could come in handy

Coop

5/23/17 9:40am

As long as they don't all occur within 2 minutes of game time.

dilbert

5/23/17 12:41pm

3rd place in the WCC seems to most logical ending again this year, unless something unusual happens.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 9:39am

3rd place these days means you aren't a top 20 team nationally

Indy Coug

5/23/17 9:41am

I'm not upset. I'm just not willing to drink the koolaid just yet. 3rd is most likely again.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 9:59am

LBJ's team leading assists while only playing 1/3 of the season should be the BYUSN dead season Stat of the Day.

Q-grr

5/23/17 9:41am

It shows how selfish the other PGs were on the roster. That has to change next year.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/17 10:00am

BYU was 64th of 351 teams in assists per FGM

Indy Coug

5/23/17 10:04am

Emery lovers don't take this wrong, 'cuz I like his spunk, but how far behind was he with assists?

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:01am

RE: Emery lovers don't take this wrong, 'cuz I like his spunk, but how far behind was he with assists?

Indy Coug

5/23/17 11:04am

Rose started 73% of the season's games

Indy Coug

5/23/17 11:09am

I must have misread the info or read some Fake News, sorry. Carry on.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:12am

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roseyscenario

5/23/17 11:19am

I did miss read, it was missed a 1/3 of the season.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:27am

Some of the issues with this team I wouldn't consider using the term reloading

mosterlow

5/23/17 10:08am

OK i'll edit. revival or resurgence? These words are stronger than intended but i acknowledge imprecise use of reload.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 10:52am

I'd say we have to jump the Gap if we want to improve, definitely not a reload.

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:03am

Regarding that 2014-2015 offense.

ag4cougs

5/23/17 10:37am

I'm keeping an open mind this upcoming season. I don't think much will surprise

Mark320

5/23/17 10:47am

I would plan on supplies from the Orient before an Elite 8

Q-grr

5/23/17 11:06am

Great post Rosey, as usual. I expect more 3s a more open middle.

Coogar2

5/23/17 11:27am

I'm curious to know your thoughts on Dastrup. Seemed he was in the doghouse.

blueaussie

5/23/17 11:48am

Very good post. BUT......there are lots of IF's

JadedCougar

5/23/17 11:51am

the biggest gut punch for fans is readjusting expectations from hoping for deep

Bostonblue

5/23/17 11:56am

I agree!

JadedCougar

5/23/17 12:32pm

I'm surprised no one has asked you about your comment that we could add another

Y's Guide

5/23/17 2:03pm

Probably some low level foreigner like Ambrosino or something

thebruce

5/23/17 2:27pm

Based on their recruiting of Springer ... probably a lengthy wing who can shoot

runnincoug

5/23/17 2:42pm

Oh bruce.....😃

Ryan M

5/23/17 8:30pm

CBers shouldn't underestimate the impact Schroyer will have. BYU SN reported...

icecougar

5/23/17 3:07pm

I don't think CBers should estimate the impact. Period. Just let it play out.

Indy Coug

5/23/17 3:11pm

There goes 2/3rds of the post traffic on CB. Isn't that the point of a message..

icecougar

5/23/17 7:27pm

Man I love rosey's posts! Wish I was an FO for you. Guessing there are some

jcase16byu

5/23/17 3:48pm

Thanks bro. Would add more if El Jefe would permit it. But i don't add much there. Friends there add much more than me.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 4:13pm

Excellent write up but I disagree with 90% of your premises

gurt

5/23/17 7:05pm

i like the way you said that. Look forward to your comments.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 7:43pm

Ahh. Well. That does change some things

gurt

5/23/17 9:56pm

Yep that's my job with these epistles.

roseyscenario

5/23/17 10:10pm

20 wins is likely, 3rd place finish would be good

Y4LYFE

5/23/17 9:16pm

Thanks for the post! Excited to hear about possible additions.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

5/24/17 1:40pm

+1. Possible is about right expectation. Fingers crossed.

roseyscenario

5/24/17 1:48pm

2014-2015 season comparison

Cougforgood

5/24/17 2:12pm

100% agree

roseyscenario

5/24/17 3:22pm

Just win baby

Cougforgood

5/24/17 4:30pm

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