I agree that something has to change.

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Sep 26, 2017
8:42:50pm

Eddie All-American

I agree that something has to change.

And that, right now, Detmer and the offense appears to be the most important variable as it relates to QB performance.

I'm hoping they can figure things out and right the ship. I'm really hoping they can do so with the current coaches, because I really like all of them. If not...

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Eddie

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The narrative that our offense has done nothing good under Detmer is wrong.

GOR

9/26/17 3:12pm

RE: The narrative that our offense has done nothing good under Detmer is wrong.

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 3:13pm

Thanks to two all time leading rushers that went on to the NFL

Jericho

9/26/17 3:14pm

No doubt the Jamaal/Taysom duo had a lot to do with the good stats

GOR

9/26/17 3:25pm

With a QB/RB combo like that... Gary Crowton would have had a heyday

Jericho

9/26/17 3:30pm

Coaching is overrated when you have great players. Great or not, your record is

coastcat

9/27/17 8:42am

From 4th grade to Pro I agree. There are some anomalies,

Refugee

9/27/17 9:09am

I generally see it as about 75/25 in terms of talent/coaching

Jericho

9/27/17 11:04am

Agreed.

Refugee

9/27/17 12:24pm

This is funny.

Eddie

9/26/17 3:46pm

Actually Eddie, that's not what he's saying.

Thug Mormons

9/26/17 4:01pm

That's more revisionist history.

Eddie

9/26/17 4:33pm

Stop projecting your opinion or what some CBer's said on me or on reality

Jericho

9/26/17 4:36pm

I'm not projecting ANYTHING on you.

Eddie

9/26/17 4:42pm

I've always been high on Hill and wanted him to start until he graduated in a

Jericho

9/26/17 4:49pm

I'm with you. Really, I am.

Eddie

9/26/17 4:53pm

I called him talented because he was a Heisman candidate before he got injured

Jericho

9/26/17 5:02pm

Listen - this really isn't about YOU.

Eddie

9/26/17 5:05pm

He was injured

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 9:26pm

Most teams that do well in college have at least two similar types of players.

Refugee

9/27/17 7:57am

There were indeed some strong aspects to our offense last year. Folks got frustrated watching the passing game

CalGTR

9/26/17 3:18pm

Exactly. No doubt the passing game had (has) major holes. But the strong aspects

GOR

9/26/17 3:21pm

It shows that with an NFL QB and RB we could only muster an average offense

ayfan

9/26/17 3:24pm

Hill wasn't an NFL QB.

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 3:25pm

RE: Hill wasn't an NFL QB.

Scratch

9/26/17 3:32pm

Come on. He was coming back from a terrible injury.

GOR

9/26/17 3:44pm

Right, he couldn't throw because of his foot... lol

Jericho

9/26/17 4:14pm

If we just wanted him to be John Beck...

Eddie

9/26/17 5:39pm

He had a better passer rating as a true freshman fresh off a mission...

Jericho

9/26/17 5:42pm

Are you talking about Mangum or Hill?

Eddie

9/26/17 5:50pm

Hill played here and there and eventually started two games before being injured

Jericho

9/26/17 5:54pm

Just to be clear what we are talking about...

Eddie

9/26/17 6:10pm

My point is that he was a freshman completely new to the college level

Jericho

9/26/17 6:16pm

Accuracy is accuracy.

Eddie

9/26/17 7:05pm

It's not just accuracy though, that's what you don't seem to understand.

Jericho

9/26/17 8:07pm

I understand.

Eddie

9/26/17 8:15pm

You never answered my question about Taysom vs Nebraska though

Jericho

9/26/17 8:22pm

You keep missing my point.

Eddie

9/26/17 8:29pm

I played the position in HS, so I do have some idea about what is needed

Jericho

9/26/17 8:39pm

I agree that something has to change.

Eddie

9/26/17 8:42pm

I actually expect to see us running more uptempo read option this week

Jericho

9/26/17 8:44pm

That's from this year, right?

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 9:26pm

Yes. Hill didn't play for BYU and in the NFL last year.

Scratch

9/27/17 8:23am

that seems obvious to everybody but you considering i said he wasn't

smokymountainrain

9/27/17 8:25am

You're wasting your time

BYURider

9/26/17 5:43pm

I'd be happy to get 200 yards passing per game

Jericho

9/26/17 5:48pm

You'll get it this week

BYURider

9/26/17 5:51pm

We had the 66th offense last year, against some bad teams with 2 NFL guys.

Turbine

9/26/17 3:20pm

All we need are two NFL caliber players at QB & RB to have a perfectly mediocre

Jericho

9/26/17 3:24pm

RE: All we need is two NFL caliber players at QB and RB to have a perfectly

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 3:26pm

Hill wasn't a freak athlete and certainly wasn't a NFL caliber QB last year.

smokymountainrain

9/26/17 3:26pm

Partial credit. He was also out of place in a system that didn't use his legs.

Turbine

9/26/17 3:28pm

Taysom Hill was "not" a freak athlete? You mean just last year?

BleedCougarBlue2

9/26/17 3:29pm

That's because he was way too bulky along with most of the team. Hill now looks

SnickSnack

9/26/17 4:21pm

He still had his 2nd best rushing season last year and was good enough to

Jericho

9/26/17 4:38pm

Not a great point considering all other seasons but one

SnickSnack

9/26/17 8:52pm

at the start of the season I did think he was slower

Jericho

9/26/17 9:41pm

We were 62nd in scoring Offense, that isn't good

ayfan

9/26/17 3:20pm

Who cares about yards if you have the ball for the entire 1st quarter & score 7?

GOR

9/26/17 3:23pm

Your ignoring my main point, 62nd is scoring is not a good offense

ayfan

9/26/17 3:29pm

I'm not ignoring your point. 62nd in scoring IS a good offense IF

GOR

9/26/17 3:53pm

Also worth noting that over the last 9 games we scored 37ppg.

Phcole

9/26/17 4:02pm

Yep, the stats that really matter are 1) points per possession and

Scratch

9/26/17 4:03pm

good luck replicating a 5th year senior with 1000s of reps and an all-time RB.

ag4cougs

9/26/17 3:35pm

we were barely average with GOAT at RB and best athlete ever at QB

nashty

9/26/17 3:28pm

Define average

GOR

9/26/17 3:34pm

mid 60's nationally. That was easy.

Turbine

9/26/17 3:40pm

<< Deleted >>

GOR

9/26/17 3:45pm

Can we stop pretending that not putting up points was in the game plan?

Left Shark Coug

9/26/17 3:31pm

thank you. been saying this for over a year.

ag4cougs

9/26/17 3:36pm

No, because you're wrong.

GOR

9/26/17 3:41pm

How about UCLA? Utah? Did you even watch those games?

Turbine

9/26/17 3:48pm

Your opinion would be valid if we had actually been sustaining drives and not

Left Shark Coug

9/26/17 3:51pm

Huh?

GOR

9/26/17 3:56pm

You move at an extreme snail pace and rack up stats on bad teams.

Left Shark Coug

9/26/17 4:07pm

Except that's untrue. WVU was a top 40 defense in ppg allowed. Toledo was 54th.

Phcole

9/26/17 4:25pm

Hmmm..if only there was a high scoring game last year, one the defensed needed

BYUSwoop

9/26/17 10:30pm

Awesome. Now repeat it so it doesn't appear to be a fluke.

Left Shark Coug

9/27/17 8:17am

Did it twice

BYUSwoop

9/28/17 6:19pm

2 out of 17. Not bad. Trending up or down right now?

Left Shark Coug

9/28/17 6:49pm

Live in the now. BYU fans get accused of living in the past

BeYoU

9/26/17 4:47pm

You have a point here.

GOR

9/26/17 4:54pm

Our recruiting rankings fall typically in the 50 - 60 range. Our offense should

BlueForLife

9/27/17 1:37am

My biggest concern is that we couldn't identify

9/26/17 7:31pm

Like at RB? That is my biggest criticism of the staff.

GOR

9/26/17 9:20pm

Here piggy piggy piggy! We got some nice lipstick for you....

cajuncoug

9/26/17 9:19pm

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