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BleedCougarBlue2
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Toooootally agree. Absolutely, 100% agree with everything you said.
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That Holmoe article is disturbing on many levels....
777
12/16/18 4:44pm
Not a fan of the up 20 on Utah thing. In fact, that makes it even worse that
Resurgens
12/16/18 4:49pm
Did he make an excuse for losing that game?
SUAVO
12/16/18 4:57pm
Would it make you happy if I said "indefensible" instead?
Resurgens
12/16/18 4:59pm
Did he defend it? It's obvious that poor coaching went on in the 2nd half of
SUAVO
12/16/18 5:02pm
I see where you're coming from, guess I'm just feeling discordant between
Resurgens
12/16/18 5:06pm
Completely disagree...
CoachSpeak
12/16/18 5:09pm
He said his favorite "part". Not his favorite game or favorite
SUAVO
12/16/18 5:28pm
Favorite part and favorite moment are pretty much the same thing....
CoachSpeak
12/16/18 5:37pm
That lead was something that hasn't happened since 1996. And of course,
SUAVO
12/16/18 6:24pm
When there was also a road win against the no. 6 team that no one gave you
Y05
12/16/18 6:28pm
You realize that lead kind of lead hasn't happened since 1996? We haven't won
SUAVO
12/16/18 6:32pm
Yes, very much so.
Y05
12/16/18 6:36pm
I agree, wisconsin was better, but I can't refute his opinion. Just saying that
SUAVO
12/16/18 7:10pm
Heads in the Clouds
Aiga
12/16/18 10:42pm
I didn't even mention Kalani...
CoachSpeak
12/17/18 8:37am
So now we celebrate quarters and a half and not games?
whiteninja
12/16/18 5:42pm
It's kind of like celebrating first down in losing seasons. Take what you can.
crazY
12/16/18 5:49pm
Now you can't like anything unless it ends in a win?
SUAVO
12/16/18 7:39pm
When it comes to sports yes...the goals are to win the game not half.
whiteninja
12/16/18 7:52pm
You're making some real strange arguments trying to justify a crappy season.
crazY
12/16/18 8:02pm
LOL! Nobody is justifying anything other than Holmoe can "like" a half of
SUAVO
12/16/18 8:07pm
Like =/= best
Y05
12/16/18 8:15pm
ok, so holmoe can't have an opinion? Even if we don't think the 1st half against
SUAVO
12/16/18 8:22pm
Yes, he can, however terrible they might be.
messi
12/16/18 9:32pm
If you dont like COMPETITIVE sports, the Theater dept. is the place for you
Iki_Balam
12/17/18 11:14am
Hopefully, you were never involved in youth sports.
Benfica1
12/17/18 11:35am
...is there anything competitive about youth sports?
Iki_Balam
12/17/18 12:48pm
Why?
CoachSpeak
12/17/18 12:52pm
Me neither. Are we all about moral victories now?
eddog
12/16/18 5:11pm
Is it better or worse that we built a 27-7 lead late in the 3rd quarter?
YIsForBrigham
12/16/18 5:22pm
Even worse...
CoachSpeak
12/16/18 5:25pm
This is exactly why you should run up the score.
Y2k
12/16/18 7:56pm
Much, much worse.
Mattattack159
12/17/18 2:07pm
We beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin! How is that not the obvious high point in 2018?
thecthdox
12/17/18 10:12am
Naw man. Our leaders think that was terrific.
Gerald-DeGroot
12/17/18 4:16pm
I guess you could start cheering for another team.
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 4:57pm
RE: I guess you could start cheering for another team.
777
12/16/18 5:02pm
This is the last thing BYU fans should be saying to each other
Resurgens
12/16/18 5:02pm
RE: I guess you could start cheering for another team.
messi
12/16/18 5:09pm
The sad part is this is now what the fanbase accepts...mediocrity and moral wins
whiteninja
12/16/18 5:44pm
RE: I guess you could start cheering for another team.
byuluvr
12/16/18 5:46pm
So just be bandwagon fans? Cheer for the team that wins. When they stop find
Y05
12/16/18 6:32pm
I mean I’m going to Cheer for BYU no matter what but you guys can.
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 6:33pm
I'll always be a BYU fan, but at this rate, I'm done wasting my money & time
Iki_Balam
12/17/18 11:16am
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franklyvulgar
12/17/18 12:00am
How in any way is this a logical response?
Mr Blue
12/17/18 7:20am
The champion's culture he's referring to is part deficiencies in Bronco's system
donnerstag
12/16/18 5:00pm
Nope, nope, nope.
crazY
12/16/18 5:06pm
RE: Nope, nope, nope.
Lip Gallagher
12/16/18 5:10pm
How is his post, Nope, nope, nope.” I think most of what he said
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 5:12pm
And it has really shown on the field
Sid Vicious
12/16/18 5:09pm
99 wins in 11 years. 11 bowl games. 6-5 in those bowls. 22 players in the NFL
777
12/16/18 5:11pm
With most of those wins against MWC teams. If you want that kind of record again
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 5:13pm
8-5, 8-5, 8-5, 9-4 against a tough INDY schedule. That's a third of his wins.
777
12/16/18 5:15pm
It was an alright schedule.
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 5:24pm
You're trying to convince "pessimisticCB". Most people know BM did a nice job
PGrovecoug
12/16/18 5:40pm
My name is PessimisticCB not because I am Pessimistic about BYU
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 5:52pm
That 9-4 was 3 flip a coin passes away from 6-7.
CarolinaCoug
12/17/18 11:46pm
As well as a lot of the wins came before the college football arms race started.
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 5:14pm
I think the arms race is the biggest problem for BYU. And why going back to a
Resurgens
12/16/18 6:30pm
Well said. I agree.
PessimisticCB
12/16/18 6:34pm
Luck. As I've said several times, if QBs stay healthy
Y05
12/16/18 6:42pm
I dont see that happening. We've missed out boat and put ourselves in a bad spot
Iki_Balam
12/17/18 11:26am
This is my concern as well.
Resurgens
12/17/18 4:33pm
From 2006-2016, BYU had 10 players drafted
donnerstag
12/16/18 5:16pm
So he was flawless and nothing at all needed to be tweaked?
Lip Gallagher
12/16/18 5:18pm
If 9-4 as an INDY isn't good enough, and we want to be 11-2, then yes, but we
777
12/16/18 5:23pm
This is booster propaganda. Should take a different tone for a mainstream media
Y05
12/16/18 6:45pm
This is such a load.
YSMACK
12/16/18 8:51pm
2. Is completely false, but the rest is pretty accurate.
akmewg
12/16/18 9:07pm
Point #2 shows your ignorance on how he ran a program. Ask Shaun Nua
TheLoneCougar
12/17/18 7:44am
Actually, it's well documented that Bronco didn't care one iota about
donnerstag
12/17/18 9:18am
Garbage.
YSMACK
12/17/18 9:43am
Wrong. There was a couple seasons this was true
donnerstag
12/17/18 10:54am
Can you provide a link?
gmj81
12/17/18 11:24am
Okay, now I know you just have an axe to grind.
777
12/17/18 4:25pm
You were expecting Holmoe to publicly trash him? C'mon man. That helps nobody.
Roko's Basilisk
12/16/18 5:23pm
He doesn't need to say anything publicly.
777
12/16/18 5:25pm
He's trying to sell the idea that Kalani is turning things around. Doesn't
Roko's Basilisk
12/16/18 5:30pm
uh ... there is NO way he can just say nothing.
ManicBlue
12/16/18 8:57pm
And then the newspaper article “Holmoe silent on BYU issues”
sidsie716
12/16/18 9:44pm
I expect him not to praise being ahead in a game we lost.
Deleted
12/16/18 5:26pm
I understand that reasoning, but I am annoyed with picking the Utah game to try
Resurgens
12/16/18 6:34pm
Of course not, he shouldn’t do that...
CoachSpeak
12/16/18 5:28pm
Not one mention of the win at #6 Wisconsin. That was the highlight. Him trying
777
12/16/18 5:34pm
Of all CB posters, I'd expect you to not take his comments too seriously. It's
Roko's Basilisk
12/16/18 5:34pm
I take it seriously because he believes it...
CoachSpeak
12/16/18 5:42pm
Tom must go
USMCdad
12/16/18 5:28pm
He’s been so damaging that BYU will likely never recover.
rainorsnow
12/16/18 5:40pm
😂, yep.... just toss the towel in bro.. it’s all over
Pretorian
12/16/18 6:08pm
I don't know about that, but if the trajectory doesn't change I see this being
Resurgens
12/16/18 6:22pm
Isn't the trajectory going up? 4 wins in 2017, 6/7 wins in 2018.
Benfica1
12/16/18 6:38pm
I suppose on paper it would, but you have to look at the context
Resurgens
12/16/18 6:44pm
Good question. Boardmail Northen Illinois and ask them.
SJS
12/16/18 6:45pm
BYU passes the eye test... they are getting better.
Benfica1
12/16/18 6:48pm
Being in the game and winning the game are two different things. These coaches
crazY
12/16/18 8:22pm
Really? Mind blown.
Benfica1
12/17/18 7:48am
RE: He’s been so damaging that BYU will likely never recover.
SUAVO
12/16/18 6:27pm
We are not playing a Mountain West schedule anymore.
tawillin
12/16/18 5:33pm
RE: We are not playing a Mountain West schedule anymore.
777
12/16/18 5:34pm
Bronco and Crowton had better W/L against tougher schedules.
ataylor
12/16/18 5:50pm
The schedules are alot more difficult now playing 4 p5 in a row. Other teams
tawillin
12/16/18 6:05pm
The evidence doesn't back you up. Sagarin says otherwise
gmj81
12/16/18 6:09pm
Sorry, that’s just not true.
ataylor
12/16/18 7:33pm
And it's a very unrealistic idea that BYU can handle the schedule that is being made...
Coug
12/16/18 6:09pm
Sucks that Kalani is 6-6 vs the MWC
TEXAS
12/16/18 6:19pm
A MWC that doesn’t even include Utah and TCU
rainorsnow
12/16/18 6:34pm
RE: A MWC that doesn’t even include Utah and TCU
TEXAS
12/16/18 6:54pm
Yikes
ataylor
12/16/18 5:47pm
Tom has reached the point where they are now making up success...
Coug
12/16/18 6:06pm
TNT would say Holmoe needs to go but that's probably not happening
TNT
12/16/18 6:12pm
What else do you expect him to say?
NewMexiCoug
12/16/18 6:34pm
RE: What else do you expect him to say?
70'sCougar
12/16/18 7:24pm
Heck, lose the mediocrity part too. "We expect more from our program."
Resurgens
12/16/18 8:01pm
RE: That Holmoe article is disturbing on many levels....
blu76
12/16/18 6:56pm
Did you read the article? He said the program isn’t where it needs to be.
andrewg3
12/16/18 7:20pm
RE: That Holmoe article is disturbing on many levels....
70'sCougar
12/16/18 7:22pm
Holmoe is a BYU "sacred cow". That is why he was hired and also why he...
k2coug
12/16/18 7:34pm
If you remember...Holmoe hired himself...
tjngirlz
12/16/18 8:18pm
When I joined CougarBoard years ago it was ..
The Natural
12/16/18 8:06pm
I think this is exactly what he should be saying now.
tony
12/16/18 8:44pm
*9-4
777
12/16/18 8:52pm
Everyone always talk about ceilings like it's a fact that Kalani's is higher
gmj81
12/16/18 8:56pm
We fired Crowton after the third straight losing season. I don’t
gwalker
12/16/18 9:27pm
He is doing his job. BYU is committed to this staff for 2019 and needs to be
Thrill
12/16/18 9:44pm
And... word on the street: it’s recruiting season... OPoster may notta got that
ZooBlue
12/16/18 10:29pm
Kalani deserves the same extension that Dave "Mediocre" Rose just received.
Rocketman
12/16/18 10:35pm
Except that Rose has actually had success even if not lately
gmj81
12/16/18 10:38pm
Mediocre 7 years in a row says enough.
Rocketman
12/16/18 10:41pm
It really shouldn’t surprise any fan who’s been paying attention.
Gerald-DeGroot
12/16/18 9:48pm
It's a case study in cognitive dissonance.
ElCapo
12/16/18 10:38pm
Calm yourself.
GOR
12/16/18 11:36pm
Agree 100% with everythjng I said. Weird article
cougfanz
12/17/18 1:55am
too many drama queens around here
palangi
12/17/18 8:03am
It’s not Holmoe, it’s CB. Before CB= total domination
Solomon Levi
12/17/18 8:47am
No one is championing Kalani as anything. Everybody know the situation:
canofpicante
12/17/18 8:54am
I disagree. Holmoe is clearly championing Sitake.
BleedCougarBlue2
12/17/18 9:27am
He has to. Holmoe's pick of Ty Detmer was miserable and this is his last chance
Iki_Balam
12/17/18 11:27am
Ok. He’s saying we were off track at 3-8 and now on a upward trajectory.
canofpicante
12/17/18 3:56pm
Toooootally agree. Absolutely, 100% agree with everything you said.
BleedCougarBlue2
12/17/18 9:31am
Indy was never intended to be permanent either that miscalculation is on Tom
franklyvulgar
12/17/18 12:32pm
I think it has been pretty clear for a while now that Tom probably needs to go.
Mattattack159
12/17/18 2:29pm
This board is supposed to be generally positive
FiveTen-BuckEighty
12/17/18 2:49pm
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