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Jul 10, 2019
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mulletino
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Crazy how much hype is built with 5 losses, a non-ranking, and a ring ceremony.
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Phil Steele has Yewties ranked #8 pre-season... They're good, but not that good.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 2:42pm
Crazy how much hype is built with 5 losses, a non-ranking, and a ring ceremony.
mulletino
7/10/19 2:44pm
Seriously, man. Any other pre-season top-10 teams lose their last two games?
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 2:49pm
Why would 2 losses to close out the season matter when the starting QB and star
BigBrotherUte
7/10/19 8:30pm
That would make a loss to BYU even more excruciating
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 8:45pm
Definitely the most experienced team in the county.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 10:16pm
and without some major injury luck in Q3, they would have had a 6th loss to
Cougar76
7/10/19 2:49pm
We benefitted from their injury luck first. Losing their starting QB and RB helped us.
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 2:56pm
We were already down to 5th RB, 2nd string LB and both went out in Q3. Prior
Cougar76
7/10/19 3:02pm
I know. But we were playing them without their NFL RB and their starting QB.
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 3:06pm
I disagree. They were missing two key starters. We were missing lots more than
Cougar76
7/10/19 3:08pm
Ha okay. We had it way worse. Should have known better than to look at it rationally.
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 3:27pm
Correction: *”should have known better to look at it rationally.” You had an
Robbinoburrito
7/10/19 3:38pm
It's really interesting how much emphasis is placed on
TFL
7/10/19 4:20pm
I don’t know about all those details of your losses. No doubt you can point to crazy things that would have
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 4:32pm
Agreed. I didn't mean to come across like I was taking it all that seriously
TFL
7/10/19 4:42pm
Totally agree. I don’t see it crazy that they rank Utah high early. Utah has been
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 4:46pm
I root for BYU too...but have the benefit
TFL
7/10/19 4:53pm
It really is horrible when a tenured QB doesnt take you to new heights
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 5:07pm
And Tanner didn’t progress as much
TFL
7/10/19 6:26pm
*regressed
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 6:30pm
To be honest I am one of those fans that doesn’t care about Utah other than when
Robbinoburrito
7/10/19 4:48pm
I know - if BYU had scored more points, they totally would have won that game.
kos
7/10/19 7:54pm
Or if Utah has scored less, or if football ended after 3 periods like hockey, or
Robbinoburrito
7/10/19 8:06pm
QB is a big loss
Boring
7/10/19 4:43pm
Probably not. BYU has done better against Utah 1st String QBs than against ...
COACHdrn
7/10/19 5:09pm
We were on our second string QB in that game as well
sunjieming
7/10/19 11:35pm
RE: We were on our second string QB in that game as well
displacedute
7/10/19 11:44pm
freshman QB + 5/6 string RB but oh noes! - Utah lost their starters!
sunjieming
7/11/19 1:03am
Come on, man. BYU chose to replace Mangum with Wilson. They weren't forced to
kos
7/11/19 8:43am
No, not completely different. Who took first reps most of the season?
sunjieming
7/11/19 12:17pm
I’m not downplaying Utah’s injuries. I just don’t think they were uniquely bad
sunjieming
7/11/19 12:21pm
Yes, it is completely different. BYU changed their QB voluntarily because
kos
7/11/19 6:02pm
No way - BYU’s first choice was a decent Mangum but he underperformed. Wilson
sunjieming
7/11/19 6:19pm
Dude, when the "backup" is better than the starter, and continues to play when the "starter" can play...
Et Lux in Domino
7/11/19 6:52pm
Context, man. This whole discussion has been about how disadvantaged the teams
kos
7/11/19 7:13pm
I completely agree with this. We are all, of course familiar with the events of
Robbinoburrito
7/11/19 8:17pm
*Sigh*
Et Lux in Domino
7/11/19 11:18pm
It's ok. I get it.
Robbinoburrito
7/12/19 10:40am
And a new OC
JKLCoug
7/10/19 2:52pm
Redundant when discussing Utah/KWhitt.
mulletino
7/10/19 2:54pm
Phil is pretty good most of the time. I admittedly don't know much about
Jericho
7/10/19 2:44pm
They are only stacked at D. Their offense won’t be near good enough to make them
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 2:46pm
Huntley and Moss are a really good RB/QB combo.....
BoiseBlue
7/10/19 2:50pm
Their O line made Huntley and Moss do better than they are
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 3:30pm
Their offense really started clicking the second half of the season last year.
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 2:51pm
Then they brought in a *mostly* new OC. A bit of a restart. Bodes well.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 2:52pm
The OC definitely creates some doubt. They have a lot of talent though. We’ll see.
The Dude Abides
7/10/19 2:54pm
He's brand new to their players. Which means a brand new playbook.
JKLCoug
7/10/19 2:55pm
During the streak, it hasn't apparently mattered who was their OC.
Everyman
7/10/19 4:38pm
Not underestimating him. But I'd rather them have a new OC than a tenured one.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 4:39pm
BYU fans are weird about new OCs. Utah is still running the Spread. An inside
BigBrotherUte
7/10/19 8:19pm
Alright buddy let's see how the game goes I guess
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 10:17pm
Utah had 3 phases of playcalling last year.
jrj84105
7/10/19 11:04pm
Wait, what!
TFL
7/11/19 1:07am
Utah's OL returns 3 starters and has a top JUCO OT coming in.
displacedute
7/10/19 3:26pm
Its great he thinks they are that high
DazeofBlue
7/10/19 2:45pm
His power poll actually has them lower than that, but based upon their schedule
jreid191
7/10/19 2:48pm
Gotcha. Even so, I'd be shocked if they end up top-10 by the end of the season.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 2:51pm
FPI and S&P suggest the following.
displacedute
7/10/19 3:25pm
I think Phil Steele is projecting 10-2 and winning Pac-12 for Utah
jreid191
7/10/19 3:41pm
If im the yewts I hate this. Sets them up for lambasting by some of their less rational fans
CLCougar
7/10/19 3:09pm
RE: If im the yewts I hate this. Sets them up for lambasting by some of their
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 3:34pm
BYU shouldn't have a 34% chance of beating the #8 team in the country. That fact
andrewg3
7/10/19 3:35pm
Did t we beat #6 Wisc last year?
Punk Philosopher
7/10/19 4:08pm
Exactly, and the odds were like 5%. I'm saying if Utah were really #8, the odds
andrewg3
7/10/19 4:35pm
60%? After 8 consecutive losses, you give BYU a 60% chance?
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 4:43pm
What does past performance have to do with this season's game? Wisc 2017 vs 2018
andrewg3
7/10/19 4:47pm
60% huh?
displacedute
7/10/19 4:46pm
Part of it is we're not coming off a 4-9 season
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 5:09pm
So is UTAH- expected to be better. Not coming off of a 4-9 season.
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 5:17pm
Utah is not expected to be better than Wisconsin was last year
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 5:24pm
I'm actually a very good reader. I'm 39, but have the reading skills of a 46-year-old. *You* didn't say anything about
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 5:51pm
He compared our chances of beating Wisconsin to our chances of beating Utah this
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 6:03pm
Okay. BOOM! Done...
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 6:15pm
LOL!!! The PAC12 is trying to claim that as a NC!!
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 6:32pm
Kinda embarrassing... Fortunately we didn't have any banners printed- 10 years after the fact.
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 6:42pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Utah lose anyone of significance on D?
Ned Schneebly
7/10/19 3:45pm
They lost a safety or two and two linebackers
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 4:05pm
Both safeties and both linebackers.
displacedute
7/10/19 5:00pm
Tareke Lewis could start at corner
DryFlyUte
7/10/19 5:17pm
Of Utah's 11 starters on D, Steele has 8 as 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Team All PAC-12.
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 4:55pm
Guidry was 2nd team last year.
displacedute
7/10/19 5:07pm
Bernard is overrated
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 5:09pm
We're happy to have him. 🙂
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 5:20pm
We're fairly stacked at LB
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 5:26pm
Your level of fence-sitting is, indeed, next-level.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 7:25pm
I would have been happy to keep him if he could've gotten his act together.
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 7:26pm
Yes, but if he’s PAC 12 second team the PAC sucks
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 8:24pm
1. You know that there are only 12 teams in the PAC-12, right? 2. Those are 8 individual players, ranked 1, 2 or 3 team.
Et Lux in Domino
7/10/19 5:14pm
#8? Puh-leeeeeease. SMH.....
BleedCougarBlue2
7/10/19 4:58pm
Under Whitt, they’ve played well as the underdog.
D.T. Survivor
7/10/19 6:03pm
Schedule is very favorable to win a lot of games
BYU Fan
7/10/19 8:00pm
If they actually end up top-10, largely due to weakness of schedule, their bowl
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 8:05pm
Washington got beat up pretty good last year by a meh OSU
puntersarepeople
7/10/19 8:26pm
The Utes are a very good team...
tmurphey44
7/10/19 9:23pm
I never said they weren't good. They're just not the 8th best team...
DraperCoug22
7/10/19 10:17pm
I'm just saying that I think they are good and...
tmurphey44
7/10/19 10:48pm
I hope they rank them #1 before the BYU game
BYU4eVeR
7/10/19 9:52pm
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