I don’t know about all those details of your losses. No doubt you can point to crazy things that would have

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Jul 10, 2019
4:32:46pm

The Dude Abides The royal we.

I don’t know about all those details of your losses. No doubt you can point to crazy things that would have

affected those games in positive ways for you. Tough breaks, I imagine as a fan.

I agree that BYU fans are pointing at injuries too much for the loss against Utah. Obviously injuries impact games. It’s brutal when they cause problems but it happens. Utah was playing BYU short handed.

Bottom line is you have to play 4 quarters. BYU didn’t and therefore Utah deserved the win. They earned it. It was a very impressive 4th quarter. Gotta hand it to them.

Fans will be fans. Some are more embarrassing than others with their complete inability to see things as they really are. All teams have blind fans. Part of sports, I guess.

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Phil Steele has Yewties ranked #8 pre-season... They're good, but not that good.

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 2:42pm

Crazy how much hype is built with 5 losses, a non-ranking, and a ring ceremony.

mulletino

7/10/19 2:44pm

Seriously, man. Any other pre-season top-10 teams lose their last two games?

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 2:49pm

Why would 2 losses to close out the season matter when the starting QB and star

BigBrotherUte

7/10/19 8:30pm

That would make a loss to BYU even more excruciating

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 8:45pm

Definitely the most experienced team in the county.

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 10:16pm

and without some major injury luck in Q3, they would have had a 6th loss to

Cougar76

7/10/19 2:49pm

We benefitted from their injury luck first. Losing their starting QB and RB helped us.

The Dude Abides

7/10/19 2:56pm

We were already down to 5th RB, 2nd string LB and both went out in Q3. Prior

Cougar76

7/10/19 3:02pm

I know. But we were playing them without their NFL RB and their starting QB.

The Dude Abides

7/10/19 3:06pm

I disagree. They were missing two key starters. We were missing lots more than

Cougar76

7/10/19 3:08pm

Ha okay. We had it way worse. Should have known better than to look at it rationally.

The Dude Abides

7/10/19 3:27pm

Correction: *”should have known better to look at it rationally.” You had an

7/10/19 3:38pm

It's really interesting how much emphasis is placed on

TFL

7/10/19 4:20pm

I don’t know about all those details of your losses. No doubt you can point to crazy things that would have

The Dude Abides

7/10/19 4:32pm

Agreed. I didn't mean to come across like I was taking it all that seriously

TFL

7/10/19 4:42pm

Totally agree. I don’t see it crazy that they rank Utah high early. Utah has been

The Dude Abides

7/10/19 4:46pm

I root for BYU too...but have the benefit

TFL

7/10/19 4:53pm

It really is horrible when a tenured QB doesnt take you to new heights

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 5:07pm

And Tanner didn’t progress as much

TFL

7/10/19 6:26pm

*regressed

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 6:30pm

To be honest I am one of those fans that doesn’t care about Utah other than when

7/10/19 4:48pm

I know - if BYU had scored more points, they totally would have won that game.

kos

7/10/19 7:54pm

Or if Utah has scored less, or if football ended after 3 periods like hockey, or

7/10/19 8:06pm

QB is a big loss

Boring

7/10/19 4:43pm

Probably not. BYU has done better against Utah 1st String QBs than against ...

COACHdrn

7/10/19 5:09pm

We were on our second string QB in that game as well

sunjieming

7/10/19 11:35pm

RE: We were on our second string QB in that game as well

displacedute

7/10/19 11:44pm

freshman QB + 5/6 string RB but oh noes! - Utah lost their starters!

sunjieming

7/11/19 1:03am

Come on, man. BYU chose to replace Mangum with Wilson. They weren't forced to

kos

7/11/19 8:43am

No, not completely different. Who took first reps most of the season?

sunjieming

7/11/19 12:17pm

I’m not downplaying Utah’s injuries. I just don’t think they were uniquely bad

sunjieming

7/11/19 12:21pm

Yes, it is completely different. BYU changed their QB voluntarily because

kos

7/11/19 6:02pm

No way - BYU’s first choice was a decent Mangum but he underperformed. Wilson

sunjieming

7/11/19 6:19pm

Dude, when the "backup" is better than the starter, and continues to play when the "starter" can play...

Et Lux in Domino

7/11/19 6:52pm

Context, man. This whole discussion has been about how disadvantaged the teams

kos

7/11/19 7:13pm

I completely agree with this. We are all, of course familiar with the events of

7/11/19 8:17pm

*Sigh*

Et Lux in Domino

7/11/19 11:18pm

It's ok. I get it.

7/12/19 10:40am

And a new OC

JKLCoug

7/10/19 2:52pm

Redundant when discussing Utah/KWhitt.

mulletino

7/10/19 2:54pm

Its great he thinks they are that high

DazeofBlue

7/10/19 2:45pm

His power poll actually has them lower than that, but based upon their schedule

jreid191

7/10/19 2:48pm

Gotcha. Even so, I'd be shocked if they end up top-10 by the end of the season.

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 2:51pm

FPI and S&P suggest the following.

displacedute

7/10/19 3:25pm

I think Phil Steele is projecting 10-2 and winning Pac-12 for Utah

jreid191

7/10/19 3:41pm

If im the yewts I hate this. Sets them up for lambasting by some of their less rational fans

CLCougar

7/10/19 3:09pm

RE: If im the yewts I hate this. Sets them up for lambasting by some of their

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 3:34pm

BYU shouldn't have a 34% chance of beating the #8 team in the country. That fact

andrewg3

7/10/19 3:35pm

Did t we beat #6 Wisc last year?

Punk Philosopher

7/10/19 4:08pm

Exactly, and the odds were like 5%. I'm saying if Utah were really #8, the odds

andrewg3

7/10/19 4:35pm

60%? After 8 consecutive losses, you give BYU a 60% chance?

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 4:43pm

What does past performance have to do with this season's game? Wisc 2017 vs 2018

andrewg3

7/10/19 4:47pm

60% huh?

displacedute

7/10/19 4:46pm

Part of it is we're not coming off a 4-9 season

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 5:09pm

So is UTAH- expected to be better. Not coming off of a 4-9 season.

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 5:17pm

Utah is not expected to be better than Wisconsin was last year

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 5:24pm

I'm actually a very good reader. I'm 39, but have the reading skills of a 46-year-old. *You* didn't say anything about

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 5:51pm

He compared our chances of beating Wisconsin to our chances of beating Utah this

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 6:03pm

Okay. BOOM! Done...

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 6:15pm

LOL!!! The PAC12 is trying to claim that as a NC!!

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 6:32pm

Kinda embarrassing... Fortunately we didn't have any banners printed- 10 years after the fact.

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 6:42pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Utah lose anyone of significance on D?

7/10/19 3:45pm

They lost a safety or two and two linebackers

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 4:05pm

Both safeties and both linebackers.

displacedute

7/10/19 5:00pm

Tareke Lewis could start at corner

DryFlyUte

7/10/19 5:17pm

Of Utah's 11 starters on D, Steele has 8 as 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Team All PAC-12.

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 4:55pm

Guidry was 2nd team last year.

displacedute

7/10/19 5:07pm

Bernard is overrated

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 5:09pm

We're happy to have him. 🙂

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 5:20pm

We're fairly stacked at LB

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 5:26pm

Your level of fence-sitting is, indeed, next-level.

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 7:25pm

I would have been happy to keep him if he could've gotten his act together.

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 7:26pm

Yes, but if he’s PAC 12 second team the PAC sucks

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 8:24pm

1. You know that there are only 12 teams in the PAC-12, right? 2. Those are 8 individual players, ranked 1, 2 or 3 team.

Et Lux in Domino

7/10/19 5:14pm

#8? Puh-leeeeeease. SMH.....

BleedCougarBlue2

7/10/19 4:58pm

Under Whitt, they’ve played well as the underdog.

D.T. Survivor

7/10/19 6:03pm

Schedule is very favorable to win a lot of games

BYU Fan

7/10/19 8:00pm

If they actually end up top-10, largely due to weakness of schedule, their bowl

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 8:05pm

Washington got beat up pretty good last year by a meh OSU

puntersarepeople

7/10/19 8:26pm

The Utes are a very good team...

tmurphey44

7/10/19 9:23pm

I never said they weren't good. They're just not the 8th best team...

DraperCoug22

7/10/19 10:17pm

I'm just saying that I think they are good and...

tmurphey44

7/10/19 10:48pm

I hope they rank them #1 before the BYU game

BYU4eVeR

7/10/19 9:52pm

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