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Feb 8, 2023
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Nat Gas Man
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SMU is the rich kids school in Texas. They ain’t got no time for CFB
They’d rather be water skiing on daddy’s private lake behind their house
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Stewart Mandel article:
rainorsnow
2/8/23 12:34am
I don't know what's worse. The fact SMU averaged less than 25,000 fans at home
Y05
2/8/23 3:24am
What's worse is
CougarLegend
2/8/23 1:04pm
Presenting the 2022 P5 sub-30,000 attendance club:
BYUlv
2/8/23 4:03am
In other words, SMU is a perfect fit for the PAC.
BYUlv
2/8/23 4:04am
I’m surprised Wazzu is that low given that they’re the only game in town
CommodoreCoug
2/8/23 4:41am
Pullman is small and in the middle of nowhere. Not on Interstate system
WallaX2
2/8/23 4:50am
Plus their stadium capacity is 32,952 which means it still filled to about 80%
CameronG
2/8/23 9:39am
To be fair, WSU = small town and stadium, but very good viewership.
Happy As Larry
2/8/23 1:34pm
So the elite academic schools (Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, Vandy) ... And Washington State
krindorr
2/8/23 4:44am
I looked but I didn't see it. Found that to be curious.
BYUlv
2/8/23 1:49pm
Houston was also at 25k/game
krindorr
2/8/23 4:52am
I was going to say the same thing, except
mobomanjoe
2/8/23 5:40am
Their basketball is certainly a lot better than SMU, but it was essentially the
SUAVO
2/8/23 6:11am
I agree 100% on mocking the academic claims FYI
krindorr
2/8/23 6:14am
I don’t know who I’d choose.
mobomanjoe
2/8/23 6:44am
I agree with that, that was kind of my point
krindorr
2/8/23 6:47am
The big difference is large public school vs. smaller private school
CougarVeteran
2/8/23 6:55am
I’ve never liked the Houston choice. It was dumb to add them and most of us have said that since the beginning
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:12am
Who would you have added instead? I don't hate the Houston addition, but it's sounding like I'm in the minority here
krindorr
2/8/23 6:15am
Nobody. I would have just done BYU and Cincy and called it a day. Or in 2011 I would have invited BYU and Louisville and
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:17am
The big question is did adding UCF and Houston increase the per team payout? If
SUAVO
2/8/23 6:24am
1) I doubt it did 2) who cares about markets? Markets don’t matter. Fanbases matter. Which is UCF’s strongest point
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:33am
Because markets can affect fanbases. Look at WSU,they have good viewership, but
SUAVO
2/8/23 6:45am
Not really. There’s no real data that says that’s the case
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:59am
Because it's obvious that the general rule is the more people in your area the
SUAVO
2/8/23 7:21am
It’s not obvious. And there’s no data that says that it makes any real difference in college football.
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 7:36am
Why get data on something that is obvious. Do you really think adding a college
SUAVO
2/8/23 9:25am
It's not obvious. It's a fallacy
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 10:34am
The potential is obvious and that is what you are selling to networks when
SUAVO
2/8/23 11:17am
I think that's the point; it may be a fallacy... but it's one that networks seem to believe in
krindorr
2/8/23 11:23am
Agreed, which is why they tend to go with large markets in/around the team
SUAVO
2/8/23 11:28am
Yeah those huge markets that SEC schools are in are the reason they got such a
CameronG
2/8/23 9:48am
Ok, the SEC occupies/shares 3 of the top 10 TV markets. The big10 occupies/
SUAVO
2/8/23 11:11am
Which are those 3 markets for the SEC?
CameronG
2/8/23 11:27am
DFW, Atlanta, and Houston. When your teams are nearby big cities in large
SUAVO
2/8/23 11:35am
The schools themselves aren't located in those markets
CameronG
2/8/23 12:00pm
No, I didnt
SUAVO
2/8/23 3:46pm
Really, Cincy over UCF?
krindorr
2/8/23 6:25am
100% no question
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:29am
Based on?
SUAVO
2/8/23 6:31am
And an enormous student body (66k) with a rapidly increasing alumni base
LeGrandBleu
2/8/23 8:24am
Houston was a terrible addition.
Bluedomination
2/8/23 6:22am
I'm suddenly getting the idea most feel that way. I didn't think so and hadn't heard much in that vein earlier
krindorr
2/8/23 6:27am
Who else though? Given the B12s garbage academics Boise would have gotten my
Bluedomination
2/8/23 6:30am
Houston wasnt a terrible choice- It was a P5 level school til ‘96 as part of SWC
Das_Countach
2/8/23 6:38am
It won’t. They’re terrible and always will be. It’s a trash school that nobody cares about. Even its alumni are
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:43am
They've got a Heisman, they ended 2015 at #8, as high as #6 in '16, ended #17 in
Das_Countach
2/8/23 7:56am
I liked the Houston addition personally; just never realized it was so controversial
krindorr
2/8/23 8:09am
You gotta love the Chutzpah of CB. Six months shy of actually being in the
Stalwartbob
2/8/23 1:50pm
I think UH was driven by schools wanting guaranteed trips to TX areas for
bruincoug
2/8/23 6:53am
It is always good to laugh at the P10. I hear laughter is the best medicine
zia cougar
2/8/23 8:22am
Wow really surprised CAL is not on that list
Nat Gas Man
2/8/23 5:27am
Cal was at 39k, #9 in the PAC ahead of Oregon St, Stanford and Wazzu
krindorr
2/8/23 5:40am
Ain’t no way Cal’s real attendance is greater than 30,000. And Georgia tech is on its way too. They’re setting all time
YIsForBrigham
2/8/23 6:06am
These numbers must be paid/announced attendance, real attendance is way lower
akbarishiwatsu
2/8/23 8:06am
It’s always paid attendance at most places. Actual gate attendance is rare
Nat Gas Man
2/8/23 8:08am
I'd like to see the sub-40,000 club. Will really make Big12 shine.
Hill4Heisman
2/8/23 10:35am
Ask and you shall receive
krindorr
2/8/23 11:02am
Has to be pointed out, many of these are probably NOT attendance numbers
Mitty
2/8/23 10:51am
My brother went to an SMU game this year
jxncoog
2/8/23 6:23am
Pooping in non-restroom facilities? They'll fit right in
Gustav
2/8/23 6:24am
SMU is the rich kids school in Texas. They ain’t got no time for CFB
Nat Gas Man
2/8/23 6:25am
Maybe they would be a good fit with Utah, based on your last sentence
ldssdl
2/8/23 6:28am
I went to a few and go to some BB games. Convenient location is best I can say
bruincoug
2/8/23 6:40am
Surely Stanford, CAL, and Utah will block these additions for academic reasons
Courtimedes
2/8/23 6:32am
SMU is a good academic school
Genghis Spreads
2/8/23 6:39am
USNEWS has SMU rated #72 and BYU #89. BYU best attributes are Acct #3 and
Stalwartbob
2/8/23 7:25am
G wagons per coed SMU ranked #1, BYU #0
Nat Gas Man
2/8/23 7:27am
We're a good academic school.
Genghis Spreads
2/8/23 7:32am
BYU's USNews rank peaked at #61 in 2017, but some of the recent social "issues"
Das_Countach
2/8/23 8:35am
…uuuuh, what leg does Utah have to stand on when it comes to academics??
Das_Countach
2/8/23 6:43am
RE: …uuuuh, what leg does Utah have to stand on when it comes to
Courtimedes
2/8/23 6:58am
It's not what you or I value, but the PAC focuses on research dollars
krindorr
2/8/23 8:08am
This is very interesting. Some of these schools surprise me
Dr T-bone
2/8/23 8:29am
General agreement with you, though I think that's why they value Utah
krindorr
2/8/23 9:30am
Interestingly enough, BYU has nearly 20,000 fans at sell-out basketball games
Loafer
2/8/23 8:44am
RE: Stewart Mandel article:
Wildcat70
2/8/23 2:11pm
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