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Mar 1, 2024
11:52:47pm
krindorr Playmaker
Kind of feels like that dog poop guarantee isn't actually that strong; odds of all 16 finishing in exact order is tiny
I will literally eat a pile of dog poop if these projections turn out to be true


If it was "if Utah finishes #1 or Arizona finishes top 4", then it'd be very risky
If it was either "if Utah wins the conference" OR "Arizona finishes Top 4", then it'd still be pretty risky
If it was "Utah wins the the conference AND Arizona finishes Top 4", then it'd be a big meaningful statement, but still carry some risk of happening

But saying "If Wilner's projections turn out to be true", meaning that #1 through #16 turns out exactly as he ordered them? Pretty much zero risk of that. That's not really a grand refutation of Wilner or his take or the former PAC teams though. You've left yourself an out where UCF finishing #11, ahead of Cincy at #12 is enough to say Wilner was wrong and his projections aren't true.

There's literally 21 trillion different ways to arrange 16 teams. You could have been listing a new ordering every day since the Big Bang ...and you'd still only be a quarter of the way through.

Yeah, there's some informed knowledge that helps make certain permutations more likely (it's obviously unlikely Kansas St will finish below Houston)...but the sheer number of possibilities means that any one specific combination is vanishingly small and unlikely.

Need to fix my computer and run a script (with SP+ ratings) to see how likely the highest probability ordering is... but my guess is it's still well under 1% and likely under 0.1% - and even that's assuming SP+ is perfectly predictive (which is obviously not the case)
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