I'd argue it's more along the lines of one overperformance, one underperformance, and one push

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Mar 3, 2024
1:39:23am

krindorr Playmaker

I'd argue it's more along the lines of one overperformance, one underperformance, and one push

2021 Utah started out ranked #24 and finished #12 - overperformance
2022 Utah started out ranked #7 and finished #10 - basically as expected
2023 Utah started out ranked #14 and finished unranked - underperformance

If you want to be a Utah apologist, you point out the extremely tough injury realities for 2023 to excuse that year. If you want to attack Utah, you point out the general PAC underperformance for 2021 to excuse that year.

There's some truth to both, but the reality is that Utah (like most teams) tends to perform about as expected, with occasional surprise years in either direction.

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Wilner: "The question isn't whether Utah is ready for life in the Big 12. It's

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 1:27pm

My favorite Wilner prediction was BYU going 0-5 against P 12 in 2021.

Florwood

Mar 1, 1:30pm

And then BYU went 5-0.

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 1:38pm

A perfect score.

grosven

Mar 1, 4:54pm

Is UtahFootballGM actually Wilner?

mobius

Mar 1, 1:32pm

Or maybe Cheesefries? 🙂

greatbam

Mar 1, 2:33pm

Honestly, utah would probably be the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year if

Ojiisan

Mar 1, 1:41pm

Except for the 4 teams that beat them every year, I think they're unbeatable

tacallaway

Mar 1, 3:47pm

But most of the time they are just absolutely forcing those teams to beat them

Ojiisan

Mar 1, 3:49pm

and those really count as wins in their minds!

BYURider

Mar 1, 6:01pm

I think some of the pac12 cult got a little insecure post 2019

Avery

Mar 1, 1:46pm

“Where does Utah fit? At the top, naturally.” 😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡

Mar 1, 1:49pm

He can’t help himself but to believe the PAC 12 was superior. Even after death.

Mar 1, 1:54pm

So here's why folks on high Utah, Zona, and Colorado

Mar 1, 1:52pm

Many are pointing to what Utah did against USC in 21 and 22

Xenon

Mar 1, 2:12pm

USC that had absolutely no D

slatecoug

Mar 1, 4:07pm

Every QB and school is flawed with that level of scrutiny. The real question to ask for Rising is

TFL

Mar 1, 2:30pm

The real question is how much does the time off hurt and is he 100%

ImuaKahuku

Mar 1, 2:54pm

Time off is less relevant than overall healing and if the injury affects his running game. To install a QB

TFL

Mar 1, 3:53pm

That is so not true. Being away from the game and game reps for more than a year and a half is a real concern.

slatecoug

Mar 1, 4:10pm

They already forgot what the COVID year did to the whole PAC12

ldssdl

Mar 1, 5:09pm

I'm not disagreeing; Utah should be one of the favorites. People just expect

Mar 1, 3:19pm

But that's the whole point, right?

TFL

Mar 1, 4:08pm

Two real interesting points on this 1) it's not just Utah fans who are high on Rising & 2) the XII is stacked at QB

krindorr

Mar 2, 3:08am

How many teams get ranked based on the quality of their backup QB

Medute

Mar 2, 5:22am

A great defense with a serviceable offense does win a lot of games. I am not

HonestTakes

Mar 1, 3:07pm

Even if Cam is on par with where he was before the knee injury, Utah is only a middle of the road Big 12 team.

slatecoug

Mar 1, 4:06pm

Let's be honest they will not be middle of road. They will be top 3. There isn't

HonestTakes

Mar 1, 7:27pm

Based upon what? Their mediocre showing against the worst team in Big 12? Their mediocre showing against the PAC?

slatecoug

Mar 2, 5:17pm

Someone else who can make a ton of money by betting the under 9.5 wins

Medute

Mar 2, 5:39pm

All I'm doing is following the metrics that show there's a clear difference between the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

slatecoug

Mar 2, 6:36pm

You just seem so confident and more knowledgeable than every other major

Medute

Mar 2, 6:43pm

We have the last 3 year's track of Utah underperforming expectations as a clear road map.

slatecoug

Mar 2, 11:19pm

2021 and 2022 we hit the over on win totals and 2023 we hit the under. If I

uteman13

Mar 2, 11:58pm

All the preseason talk of competing for a playoff spot and you think you hit the over? BTW, not my expectations.

slatecoug

Mar 3, 12:15am

I'd argue it's more along the lines of one overperformance, one underperformance, and one push

krindorr

Mar 3, 1:39am

Good take. I appreciate quality inputs like this. I will avoid discussing with

uteman13

Mar 3, 10:35am

I’m not looking for a debate. I’m trying to help you cash in on your superior

Medute

Mar 3, 8:13am

Seems he’s positioning himself as a Utah writer now

Jersey hunter

Mar 1, 1:52pm

Will you film the literal poo eating if it happens?

DubuMfalme

Mar 1, 1:59pm

RE: Will you film the literal poo eating if it happens?

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 2:12pm

just to be clear, if Utah wins the Big12 in their first year, you will eat

Strawhat4life

Mar 1, 3:06pm

2024 and the Big 12 are going to be exhilarating. Programs establishing themselves with all the parity. No blue bloods

TFL

Mar 1, 2:18pm

"Maybe it's time for Wilner to leave sports journalism" : I'm sure the 3 Yewts in a basement would open up a spot..

greatbam

Mar 1, 2:32pm

No one should be surprised by Wilner’s take. I’m not surprised by yours

Medute

Mar 1, 2:33pm

Who do you think is more accurate, me or Wilner? What do you predict? If you

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 3:40pm

Here’s the thing, it’s obviously more likely Utah does not win the Big 12 in

uteman13

Mar 1, 4:18pm

My prediction is a respectable 6-6 for Utah with wins vs

MaxxPower

Mar 1, 8:16pm

Kind of weird predicting a rival to go bowling when your own team didn’t the

uteman13

Mar 2, 9:21am

How many bowl games have both teams gone to? Here you go:

MaxxPower

Mar 2, 3:09pm

Dang it you picked the trump card of stats with bowl appearances. I concede

uteman13

Mar 2, 9:58pm

Bringing up bowl games was your idea

MaxxPower

Mar 2, 10:04pm

Ok I’ll rephrase it.

uteman13

Mar 2, 10:29pm

I wouldn't have projected Utah to win 6 games with BYU's schedule last year

MaxxPower

Mar 3, 8:35am

I agree, Utah would not have won 6 games with BYUs schedule last year.

uteman13

Mar 3, 10:29am

We're talking about next year's Utah team

MaxxPower

Mar 3, 1:14pm

Ahhhh I see. So Utah only gets to .500 because this year’s Utah schedule is

uteman13

Mar 3, 1:59pm

You can be off by 3 games and still make a bunch of money

Medute

Mar 2, 3:16pm

I think Vegas/gambling sites are the most accurate. They have no bias

Medute

Mar 1, 4:27pm

So you're holding Wilner to the same journalistic standard as a random CBer?

tacallaway

Mar 1, 3:49pm

His prediction of BYU is warranted in my opinion.

davidmj10

Mar 1, 3:27pm

13 of 16? No way. I'm guessing somewhere between 6 and 10.

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 3:37pm

Last year was ugly. Not much has changed from don’t think BYU ends up that

davidmj10

Mar 1, 5:06pm

Uhhh....careful with that dog poop thing Bloocoug, CBers might hold you to it.

Ratchet

Mar 1, 3:39pm

He's honestly pretty safe; meant to reply to this one but put it in the wrong spot

krindorr

Mar 2, 12:04am

Word on the street is that Wilner and KSL/DN/SLT have each reached out

Ripliancum

Mar 1, 4:15pm

While I doubt they will go undefeated, they will be in contention. The Big12

Mar 1, 4:27pm

They say that about Utah every year lately. But then 5/4/4 losses last 3 years.

BlooCoug

Mar 1, 5:16pm

Death, taxes and Utah football.

CallSign

Mar 1, 7:08pm

Wilner is a tool. I do believe Utah will be near the top, BYU near bottom

Burton162

Mar 1, 9:16pm

Kind of feels like that dog poop guarantee isn't actually that strong; odds of all 16 finishing in exact order is tiny

krindorr

Mar 1, 11:52pm

I tried to get him to clarify what he meant, and he has not responded

Strawhat4life

Mar 2, 8:04am

It's also 8 in the morning, so there's plenty of other reasons to not respond

krindorr

Mar 2, 8:56am

I sent a message asking for clarification yesterday at 5pm

Strawhat4life

Mar 2, 10:04am

consider this your peppercorn of consideration to form this oral contract

Strawhat4life

Mar 2, 8:09am

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