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Vert der Frick
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He can’t help himself but to believe the PAC 12 was superior. Even after death.
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Wilner: "The question isn't whether Utah is ready for life in the Big 12. It's
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 1:27pm
My favorite Wilner prediction was BYU going 0-5 against P 12 in 2021.
Florwood
Mar 1, 1:30pm
And then BYU went 5-0.
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 1:38pm
A perfect score.
grosven
Mar 1, 4:54pm
Is UtahFootballGM actually Wilner?
mobius
Mar 1, 1:32pm
Or maybe Cheesefries? 🙂
greatbam
Mar 1, 2:33pm
Honestly, utah would probably be the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year if
Ojiisan
Mar 1, 1:41pm
Except for the 4 teams that beat them every year, I think they're unbeatable
tacallaway
Mar 1, 3:47pm
But most of the time they are just absolutely forcing those teams to beat them
Ojiisan
Mar 1, 3:49pm
and those really count as wins in their minds!
BYURider
Mar 1, 6:01pm
I think some of the pac12 cult got a little insecure post 2019
Avery
Mar 1, 1:46pm
“Where does Utah fit? At the top, naturally.” 😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡
Texas Hammer
Mar 1, 1:49pm
He can’t help himself but to believe the PAC 12 was superior. Even after death.
Vert der Frick
Mar 1, 1:54pm
So here's why folks on high Utah, Zona, and Colorado
moknowssports
Mar 1, 1:52pm
Many are pointing to what Utah did against USC in 21 and 22
Xenon
Mar 1, 2:12pm
USC that had absolutely no D
slatecoug
Mar 1, 4:07pm
Every QB and school is flawed with that level of scrutiny. The real question to ask for Rising is
TFL
Mar 1, 2:30pm
The real question is how much does the time off hurt and is he 100%
ImuaKahuku
Mar 1, 2:54pm
Time off is less relevant than overall healing and if the injury affects his running game. To install a QB
TFL
Mar 1, 3:53pm
That is so not true. Being away from the game and game reps for more than a year and a half is a real concern.
slatecoug
Mar 1, 4:10pm
They already forgot what the COVID year did to the whole PAC12
ldssdl
Mar 1, 5:09pm
I'm not disagreeing; Utah should be one of the favorites. People just expect
moknowssports
Mar 1, 3:19pm
But that's the whole point, right?
TFL
Mar 1, 4:08pm
Two real interesting points on this 1) it's not just Utah fans who are high on Rising & 2) the XII is stacked at QB
krindorr
Mar 2, 3:08am
How many teams get ranked based on the quality of their backup QB
Medute
Mar 2, 5:22am
A great defense with a serviceable offense does win a lot of games. I am not
HonestTakes
Mar 1, 3:07pm
Even if Cam is on par with where he was before the knee injury, Utah is only a middle of the road Big 12 team.
slatecoug
Mar 1, 4:06pm
Let's be honest they will not be middle of road. They will be top 3. There isn't
HonestTakes
Mar 1, 7:27pm
Based upon what? Their mediocre showing against the worst team in Big 12? Their mediocre showing against the PAC?
slatecoug
Mar 2, 5:17pm
Someone else who can make a ton of money by betting the under 9.5 wins
Medute
Mar 2, 5:39pm
All I'm doing is following the metrics that show there's a clear difference between the Big 12 and the PAC 12.
slatecoug
Mar 2, 6:36pm
You just seem so confident and more knowledgeable than every other major
Medute
Mar 2, 6:43pm
We have the last 3 year's track of Utah underperforming expectations as a clear road map.
slatecoug
Mar 2, 11:19pm
2021 and 2022 we hit the over on win totals and 2023 we hit the under. If I
uteman13
Mar 2, 11:58pm
All the preseason talk of competing for a playoff spot and you think you hit the over? BTW, not my expectations.
slatecoug
Mar 3, 12:15am
I'd argue it's more along the lines of one overperformance, one underperformance, and one push
krindorr
Mar 3, 1:39am
Good take. I appreciate quality inputs like this. I will avoid discussing with
uteman13
Mar 3, 10:35am
I’m not looking for a debate. I’m trying to help you cash in on your superior
Medute
Mar 3, 8:13am
Seems he’s positioning himself as a Utah writer now
Jersey hunter
Mar 1, 1:52pm
Will you film the literal poo eating if it happens?
DubuMfalme
Mar 1, 1:59pm
RE: Will you film the literal poo eating if it happens?
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 2:12pm
just to be clear, if Utah wins the Big12 in their first year, you will eat
Strawhat4life
Mar 1, 3:06pm
2024 and the Big 12 are going to be exhilarating. Programs establishing themselves with all the parity. No blue bloods
TFL
Mar 1, 2:18pm
"Maybe it's time for Wilner to leave sports journalism" : I'm sure the 3 Yewts in a basement would open up a spot..
greatbam
Mar 1, 2:32pm
No one should be surprised by Wilner’s take. I’m not surprised by yours
Medute
Mar 1, 2:33pm
Who do you think is more accurate, me or Wilner? What do you predict? If you
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 3:40pm
Here’s the thing, it’s obviously more likely Utah does not win the Big 12 in
uteman13
Mar 1, 4:18pm
My prediction is a respectable 6-6 for Utah with wins vs
MaxxPower
Mar 1, 8:16pm
Kind of weird predicting a rival to go bowling when your own team didn’t the
uteman13
Mar 2, 9:21am
How many bowl games have both teams gone to? Here you go:
MaxxPower
Mar 2, 3:09pm
Dang it you picked the trump card of stats with bowl appearances. I concede
uteman13
Mar 2, 9:58pm
Bringing up bowl games was your idea
MaxxPower
Mar 2, 10:04pm
Ok I’ll rephrase it.
uteman13
Mar 2, 10:29pm
I wouldn't have projected Utah to win 6 games with BYU's schedule last year
MaxxPower
Mar 3, 8:35am
I agree, Utah would not have won 6 games with BYUs schedule last year.
uteman13
Mar 3, 10:29am
We're talking about next year's Utah team
MaxxPower
Mar 3, 1:14pm
Ahhhh I see. So Utah only gets to .500 because this year’s Utah schedule is
uteman13
Mar 3, 1:59pm
You can be off by 3 games and still make a bunch of money
Medute
Mar 2, 3:16pm
I think Vegas/gambling sites are the most accurate. They have no bias
Medute
Mar 1, 4:27pm
So you're holding Wilner to the same journalistic standard as a random CBer?
tacallaway
Mar 1, 3:49pm
His prediction of BYU is warranted in my opinion.
davidmj10
Mar 1, 3:27pm
13 of 16? No way. I'm guessing somewhere between 6 and 10.
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 3:37pm
Last year was ugly. Not much has changed from don’t think BYU ends up that
davidmj10
Mar 1, 5:06pm
Uhhh....careful with that dog poop thing Bloocoug, CBers might hold you to it.
Ratchet
Mar 1, 3:39pm
He's honestly pretty safe; meant to reply to this one but put it in the wrong spot
krindorr
Mar 2, 12:04am
Word on the street is that Wilner and KSL/DN/SLT have each reached out
Ripliancum
Mar 1, 4:15pm
While I doubt they will go undefeated, they will be in contention. The Big12
scrambled egg
Mar 1, 4:27pm
They say that about Utah every year lately. But then 5/4/4 losses last 3 years.
BlooCoug
Mar 1, 5:16pm
Death, taxes and Utah football.
CallSign
Mar 1, 7:08pm
Wilner is a tool. I do believe Utah will be near the top, BYU near bottom
Burton162
Mar 1, 9:16pm
Kind of feels like that dog poop guarantee isn't actually that strong; odds of all 16 finishing in exact order is tiny
krindorr
Mar 1, 11:52pm
I tried to get him to clarify what he meant, and he has not responded
Strawhat4life
Mar 2, 8:04am
It's also 8 in the morning, so there's plenty of other reasons to not respond
krindorr
Mar 2, 8:56am
I sent a message asking for clarification yesterday at 5pm
Strawhat4life
Mar 2, 10:04am
consider this your peppercorn of consideration to form this oral contract
Strawhat4life
Mar 2, 8:09am
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