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May 20, 2017
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thebruce
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considering he's an academic all american I would assume he would have had a
academic scholarship without basketball. Maybe even at a better school.
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I don't have an answer for this one, but how much of Mika leaving was because
gwalker
5/17/17 11:58am
Zero. Zero is how much of his leaving was because of fan criticism.
No touching
5/17/17 12:01pm
Coach Cleve mentioned he didn't think Eric had a lot of fun this year
gmj81
5/17/17 12:05pm
Didn't like the chemistry?
No touching
5/17/17 12:08pm
If he wasn't having fun. . .
Brigham
5/17/17 12:09pm
From his perspective, what could there not have been to like?
gmj81
5/17/17 12:17pm
Maybe he didn't like the lack of effort he saw from some teammates on...
icecougar
5/20/17 12:20pm
Why does him not having fun translate to fan criticism?
BYUheaven
5/17/17 12:11pm
I don't think I'm reading too much into this:
gmj81
5/17/17 12:14pm
RE: I don't think I'm reading too much into this:
kbufcoug
5/17/17 3:16pm
It's not the first time Cleveland has commented about the negativity outside the program
Indy Coug
5/17/17 12:29pm
Agree this, but how can you say with such certainty?
CLCougar
5/17/17 12:09pm
It's naive to think that fan criticisms didn't negatively impact his experience
Indy Coug
5/17/17 12:16pm
Was anybody ripping on Mika? Mika was really the only untouchable consistent
Bert609
5/17/17 12:32pm
Do you like working in a negative environment even if you're not the one
gmj81
5/17/17 12:36pm
I had a psycho boss that was regularly yelling at my co-workers. Her office was right next to mine
Indy Coug
5/17/17 12:45pm
BYU fans were incredibly mild considering the product on the court this year.
Bert609
5/17/17 12:47pm
Agreed
Cougstreak
5/17/17 3:44pm
Honestly, I think most of the negativity was from within not from without.
Bert609
5/17/17 12:47pm
At times. I even said the offense could stagnate when the ball went to him in
gwalker
5/17/17 12:37pm
It would take a guy with pretty thin skin to be bothered by that...
icecougar
5/20/17 12:30pm
And what's the basis of this thought?
Lip Gallagher
5/17/17 12:47pm
Zero is a possibility. But you seem awfully sure when there's plenty of room to
gwalker
5/17/17 12:18pm
Zero
Big Daddy D
5/17/17 12:02pm
Zip, not even a remote possibility he considered that.
Cougar TD
5/17/17 12:04pm
Not even a remote possibility. I'm going to pass out from laughing.
gwalker
5/17/17 12:20pm
Im just joining in on making absolute statements that none of us can know about.
Cougar TD
5/17/17 12:48pm
Only on a message board of fans overestimating their impact on anything and
Lip Gallagher
5/17/17 12:40pm
I disagree. I doubt it was the major factor. And I agree it may well not have
gwalker
5/17/17 12:44pm
Like I said, of course people on here would think so.
Lip Gallagher
5/17/17 12:51pm
I didn't say anything about this board in particular. I said "fans."
gwalker
5/17/17 1:02pm
So if it was 1%, is the point still just to say "it mattered?"
Lip Gallagher
5/17/17 1:06pm
Maybe so. My question was a question. I wasn't drawing any conclusions
gwalker
5/17/17 1:09pm
Ain't that the truth
Lip Gallagher
5/17/17 1:14pm
98%...the chance to make $1,000,000 was the other 2%
84 Grad
5/17/17 1:02pm
He got paid to get a college education.
SaintGeorgeYFan
5/17/17 3:11pm
considering he's an academic all american I would assume he would have had a
thebruce
5/20/17 8:01am
I am sure NBA fans will be very nice and cordial.
Cougstreak
5/17/17 3:43pm
You obviously didn't read my post.
gwalker
5/18/17 12:05am
I did and the point is the same regardless if he is get paid.
Cougstreak
5/18/17 5:27am
Then you missed where I said exactly what you said and then acted like it
gwalker
5/18/17 10:14am
Not sure I agree.
Cougstreak
5/18/17 10:22am
The UVU game was a total blast...until those darn fans ruined all the fun!
Roko's Basilisk
5/17/17 5:38pm
Another who didn't read my post.
gwalker
5/18/17 12:05am
I read it. You suggested that the lack of fun might be attributable to fans
Roko's Basilisk
5/18/17 8:20am
You oversimplified dramatically. Of course, not winning as much as expected
gwalker
5/18/17 10:17am
Nah, simplified just the right amount, I'd say.
Roko's Basilisk
5/18/17 12:12pm
Open your eyes and pay attention. You're arguing with what you prematurely
gwalker
5/19/17 11:44pm
Oh brother. Okay, I'll restate my position as a response to your exact words:
Roko's Basilisk
5/20/17 1:01am
"fun and care free days of college" and being a D1 athlete do not apply.
Cougstreak
5/18/17 12:21pm
I don't think he was scared off. I don't think he left as a middle finger to
gwalker
5/19/17 11:49pm
Mika is a fiery guy. He doesn't care what the fans say.
Harrison0Yfan
5/17/17 6:30pm
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Roko's Basilisk
5/18/17 12:00pm
0%. I think he's a lot tougher mentally than the CB snowflake posse
byuTX
5/20/17 6:11am
He sat out a year of HS to play for LP. I'm not surprised he left early.
Y4LYFE
5/20/17 7:37am
Have you watched much 2A High School basketball?
2ndTrombone
5/20/17 10:39am
I would hope none, otherwise he won't last a minute in the NBA
Real Men Wear Blue
5/20/17 9:56am
If that had any impact then playing high level sports isn't for him
LifelongAP
5/20/17 10:15am
Thanks for bringing this up. I think we BYU fans should be more responsible, even on here, but it's a tough
ocmyhome
5/20/17 11:27am
0. 0% of his decision to leave
Paul Hewson
5/20/17 12:14pm
0%
Circaman12
5/20/17 3:01pm
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