We're both guilty here of dismissing & presuming, probably. To what degree is

Jan 22, 2018
7:33:30am

mantis mutu All-American

the question, imo.

I don't see how any program justifies keeping Detmer after last season's performance, though. Not a program of BYU's magnitude & history, anyways.

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Time

Millennial Reality Check

DemboyzCoug

1/21/18 11:43pm

When the going gets tough again,

LaVellIfIKnow

1/21/18 11:45pm

He needs to evaluate Tuiaki as the DC. Defense got pushed around all year.

jpal1397

1/22/18 12:00am

^^^^THIS^^^^

Adrielle

1/22/18 6:39am

LSU, Wisconsin, BSU, MSU, and ECU: our defense forced a TOTAL of 12 punts.

BerkeleyCoug

1/22/18 7:21am

Tuiaki is lucky we played a collection of the worst offensive teams in football

BerkeleyCoug

1/22/18 7:22am

Well turnovers forced, sacks, pass efficiency d, and 3rd down conversions BYU...

BigYfan

1/22/18 7:59am

You point on Utah is the only thing I remember from that game

stoils

1/22/18 12:14pm

I need more thumbs up for this...

Cyclogist

1/22/18 7:36am

True. A new DC will increase our point production dramatically.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/22/18 7:48am

Underperformed? What do you expect from the "talent" he has to work with?

Diablo and Doc

1/22/18 11:53am

Poor recruiting for sure....but to lose at home to UMass? Terrible!

MichCoug

1/22/18 4:42pm

RE: Underperformed? What do you expect from the "talent" he has to work with?

jpal1397

1/22/18 10:31pm

Are you related to detmer or something? You seem to be taking his firing very

IceCreamButt

1/22/18 12:39am

Some of these folks deep down just don't wanna win. What they want, exactly

mantis mutu

1/22/18 1:31am

Maybe they wanted more than the OC changed.

Bert609

1/22/18 5:13am

They want program suicide, then. They have no idea how precarious a situation

mantis mutu

1/22/18 5:36am

I believed Ty and the offense was the issue until

Bert609

1/22/18 6:24am

Ty was hardly the only issue, no doubt. But his offensive schemes & playcalling

mantis mutu

1/22/18 6:31am

It sure we woulda helped if the QB everyone put their eggs in the basket for

Borg

1/22/18 7:25am

That comes down to Anae versus Ty. Putting that on the QBs just isn't seeing

mantis mutu

1/22/18 7:27am

I look in the sky, and see billions & billions of stars

Borg

1/22/18 7:30am

We're both guilty here of dismissing & presuming, probably. To what degree is

mantis mutu

1/22/18 7:33am

The Offense was a BIG problem. A few years ago USU won 10 games using 4 QB's...

icecougar

1/22/18 11:50am

"Simply replacing OC isn't going to right the ship." You realize there's 6 new

palangi

1/22/18 11:54am

Ty was in over his head, no doubt. However, KS is equally in over his

coolblue

1/22/18 7:40am

If I didn't think his hands were tied on Ty, I'd be more concerned.

mantis mutu

1/22/18 7:43am

I don't think he's on the hot seat this year, he'll have 2019 also even if 2018

palangi

1/22/18 2:49pm

Not to start, probably. I'm really pullin for him. Not sure he was the best hire

mantis mutu

1/22/18 4:28pm

Well, if we have our worst offense in school history, the OC should get heat

Dissenter

1/22/18 9:18am

And if the defense sucks, can't get pressure on the opposing QB's, get lit up in

Cyclogist

1/22/18 9:37am

Our defense was bad. Our offense was legendarily terrible

Dissenter

1/22/18 9:41am

I simply disagree...the defense ranked near the bottom of FBS in too many

Cyclogist

1/22/18 11:48am

You're objectively wrong, just so you know

Dissenter

1/22/18 12:04pm

Just to be clear...you're okay/satisfied with what the defense did last season?

Cyclogist

1/22/18 2:50pm

No, it was bad, but orders of magnitude better than the offense

Dissenter

1/22/18 7:26pm

the offense struggled 2 yrs in a row. The defense was really good in year 1...

icecougar

1/22/18 5:56pm

Kalani sure has a lot of cousins joining CB lately.

Cougarfan777

1/22/18 12:20am

It is amusing how many lurkers come out of the woodwork to chastise everyone

cougarmanguy

1/22/18 12:34am

Will help balance out the large amount of Kalani haters

sidsie716

1/22/18 8:32am

What does this have to do with millenials? A lot of the people on cb complaining

IceCreamButt

1/22/18 12:36am

Judging by the context it's not generational but a period of time

GA_Coug

1/22/18 5:55am

You lost me at "mini bowl games" actually before but that pushed it over

Qhall

1/22/18 12:58am

RE: Millennial Reality Check

acougfan

1/22/18 1:40am

Last year was nothing short of horrendous. No excuses‼️

MichCoug

1/22/18 5:50am

Last year, BYU should have had at least 7 wins. But what was worse was that at times there was no

Adrielle

1/22/18 6:14am

Agreed and those 7 wins should have been dominant considering the weak opponents

Yunit

1/22/18 7:10am

Couldn't agree more. The biggest issue for me was the complete lack of competitive fire. That is 100% on him

morningcalmcougar

1/22/18 9:15am

I lost most of my respect for KS when he threw Ty under the bus after a win.

Division Bell

1/22/18 6:38am

But we don't know, that's what scary. Is it Crowton again, where we have to fig

Incentivize

1/22/18 7:26am

What is your definition of "driving the program into the ground"? I would say

BerkeleyCoug

1/22/18 7:32am

Amen, I agree, You will not recognize BYU football, they will be awesome

FootFAN

1/22/18 7:56am

That home schedule isn't too great

TNT

1/22/18 8:23am

That win against ASU will be extra tough, since BYU doesn't play ASU.

jdub

1/22/18 12:16pm

OOOoh scary millennials!

Mr Bassman

1/22/18 8:28am

TLDR b/c I'm a millennial

GOR

1/22/18 8:44am

Sorry but a historically bad season is going to get criticism.

Mr. Scoobs

1/22/18 8:52am

P5 status is not our biggest issue. Too many examples of good G5 teams

RedlandsCoug

1/22/18 9:14am

Man I’ve said this so many times now. I believed as you did and was vocal about it until 2/3 the way through the season.

Refugee

1/22/18 9:15am

RE: Millennial Reality Check

Mathew

1/22/18 9:21am

What do Millenials have to do with any of this?

P-Boy Squad

1/22/18 11:07am

They’re to blame for everything

Mr Bassman

1/22/18 11:44am

Makes me believe people who blame millenials for everything are senile old

IceCreamButt

1/22/18 1:46pm

Think about this, Navy beat VIRGINIA without throwing a single pass

FootFAN

1/22/18 11:20am

Don't forget that offense is built heavily on deception as well. One good fake is worth two good blocks.

Refugee

1/22/18 1:39pm

I'm in the minority that thinks the triple option is a thing of beauty when run correctly, but it has

Refugee

1/22/18 1:42pm

For their SEVENTH win of the season . That would be AWESOME. ugh

Greg4BYU

1/23/18 7:29am

Millenial Here:

Circaman12

1/22/18 3:02pm

Thank you. I totally agree. UCF came from no wins to 13-0 very fast. We could

FightingCoug12

1/22/18 5:16pm

Scott Frost knows how to instill discipline and desire into his coaches and team. Hopefully it's not too late for

Rhino84

1/23/18 6:38am

We also will be nationally relevant again. LaVell had to do it with worse

FightingCoug12

1/22/18 6:10pm

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