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Mar 21, 2018
10:55:29am

andrewg3 Walk-on

Everyone assumes we would suddenly make all these NY6 games if we were back in

the Mountain West. Our chances of making NY6 now are the same as they would be in the MWC. Our schedule in 2014 was probably easier than a lot of schedules we had back in our MWC days...and what did we do? We lost to Utah State, Nevada, and Boise State. Some of you think that the MWC games are automatic wins. You still have to beat those teams! Just win baby, it doesn't matter what conference you're in (or not in) you just have to win. 11-1 in independence will get us NY6, you don't have to go undefeated. And yes, you would need that same record in the MWC as well. 10-2 doesn't get you NY6 in the MWC, just ask 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009.

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Those that clamor for MWC or AAC should listen to Criddles guest yesterday. There’s no way we go back with football to

SouthernBlueBlood All-American

3/21/18 9:12am

But is the money everything? Would TH be willing to take that hit to make a NY6?

DoseOfReality

3/21/18 9:14am

For one game?

2FarGone

3/21/18 9:16am

No- NY6 is never a guarantee and whose to say if we were good enough that we wouldn’t get it? We don’t know but we do

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:17am

Oh- yes money is everything. No money no program- we can’t float our programs off of tithing

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:18am

Money is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

3/21/18 9:26am

Without money you can’t get there. When G5 hits a economic bubble states can pull funding. BYU will remain free of that

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:32am

BYU wouldn’t have a problem with this regardless, since it receives no state

3/21/18 9:38am

exactly. be in a league with similarly positioned schools, talent and money.

3/21/18 9:42am

You’re completely ignoring the ecosystem of being in a conference. You’re ignoring the decline in

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:45am

I think I’ve acknowledged all of that, but one thing the Indy crowd does ignore

3/21/18 10:20am

If “higher end G5” is what BYU is right now. What about Indy is hurting BYU?

StalwartBraveTrue

3/21/18 2:31pm

While there are some schools with $50-100M more AD revenue, our current levels

The Llama

3/22/18 8:40am

So based on this logic. Let’s join the big sky!!!!

Pretorian

3/21/18 11:26am

Thank you for not bringing anything productive to the discussion.

3/21/18 1:16pm

Other than pointing out how the notion is a dumb idea?

Pretorian

3/21/18 1:25pm

Yes, that’s right. A group of middle schoolers respond to intelligent

3/21/18 1:29pm

Ha ha, well that level of response is on par with the brain trust that hatched

Pretorian

3/25/18 8:00pm

Everyone assumes we would suddenly make all these NY6 games if we were back in

andrewg3

3/21/18 10:55am

I would be fascinated to see how he comes up with those figures.

3/21/18 9:24am

He outlines his premise in the podcast. He was convincing

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:26am

Which is? Can’t listen at the moment.

3/21/18 9:27am

I don’t have the desire to re-listen to outline the details or I basically don’t recall the details just the overall

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:30am

His overall premise was flawed

3/21/18 9:56am

The hit on media contract $ alone would be $3+ million, but there's more to it than that. For example, many years

CalGTR

3/21/18 3:05pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:14pm

Wisconsin last year for one

GOR

3/21/18 7:17pm

Texas, Miss St, Virginia, GT, the entire P12

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:11pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 11:08pm

Georgia Tech came when we were in the MWC...

Coug

3/22/18 8:17am

UCONN, Cincinnati, Central Florida and SDSU...

Coug

3/22/18 8:22am

At my work we call it a PIDOOMA estimate. Not fascinating.

ALUF 1990

3/22/18 5:59am

Teeples made some serious leaps in logic there

3/21/18 9:51am

Only $3 million more? I think it’s more than that

AC_Coug

3/21/18 3:31pm

Why couldn't BYU get the neutral site games as an independent? And for every

Scratch

3/21/18 3:45pm

It's honestly not...

Coug

3/21/18 3:47pm

Can you break down where that $15-$20M is coming from? Because that makes no

Scratch

3/21/18 10:13am

It makes no sense, but it’s provocative enough to be parroted as truth for years

3/21/18 10:14am

Just watch...in the future people will use 15-20 million per year in posts supporting Independence...

Bonoman

3/21/18 12:17pm

I didn’t hear him claim those things. Here are some likely advantages of Indy:

ZooBlue

3/21/18 11:45am

How much bowl $$$ does BYU get as an Indy as opposed to sharing in conference?

Scratch

3/21/18 11:55am

Do the bowls pay BYU the same they pay a team from a conference? Wondered if

stealth

3/21/18 2:58pm

I thought I'd seen that for some of the bowls, where BYU gets a bit less than

Scratch

3/21/18 3:46pm

Well, this past year... especially bummer... but in the longer term, if I’m Tom,

ZooBlue

3/21/18 6:16pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:22pm

Exactly!

Pretorian

3/21/18 12:41pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:19pm

Donations and ticket prices/sales wouldn't collapse, of course, but there would be an impact. Just as there was a

CalGTR

3/21/18 3:14pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:28pm

You are being lazy in your post. The future home schedule is great because indy

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:21pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 10:56pm

And? You would mortgage that to continue playing crappy schedules in a crappy

BYUButters

3/25/18 9:06pm

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trjohnson007

3/25/18 10:14pm

I just listened because I was curious. That Ryan Teeples guy is either a

Scratch

3/21/18 11:02am

Well said. You lay out your points strongly

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 11:10am

We can disagree about how much money would be lost, but money would be lost

Remigius

3/21/18 12:46pm

Probably (but not certainly) true. But it would most likely be like a million

Scratch

3/21/18 12:52pm

Is there any chance that saying it’s only a million $ is crazy...?

ZooBlue

3/21/18 6:20pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:33pm

Of course

ZooBlue

3/22/18 8:22am

I agree with what you're saying otherwise, but where you getting 1 million from?

Westsider

3/21/18 7:41pm

I thought what I've seen is about $4.5-4.7 for all media rights (radio, TV, etc)

Scratch

3/21/18 7:50pm

I don't have any numbers in front of me, but didn't we get somewhere between

The Llama

3/22/18 8:54am

No, BYU's yearly disclosures that have been posted on here show BYU's revenues

Scratch

3/22/18 9:36am

Wow, that's definitely not what I was thinking. I've never seen those

The Llama

3/22/18 10:19am

Here's what I was thinking about for the most recent year available:

Scratch

3/22/18 10:35am

Thanks for sharing that. TV really isn't that big of a mover after all.

The Llama

3/23/18 3:05pm

Money would be lost, yet we would suddenly find ourselves as the best funded

3/21/18 1:19pm

I’m for aac but not mwc

AC_Coug

3/21/18 3:35pm

Earning potential goes down because the product is worse. Your statement's wrong

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:17pm

Teeples has some really good inside info on this... he's not guessing

jsjohnson1278

3/21/18 6:45pm

He just decided to withhold it on the radio and instead decided to make a bunch

Scratch

3/21/18 6:50pm

If you’ve met him you’ll know to laugh off the interview

Hoax

3/21/18 7:17pm

UVU graduate.

Cougarfan777

3/21/18 8:26pm

This is why people hate us.

sah22

3/21/18 9:50pm

And?

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:23pm

Their mascot is the Wolverines? I don't know, just pointing out he's not

Cougarfan777

3/21/18 11:43pm

Never confuse clamoring for desperation....the BYU fan base is desperate for any good news or good fortune...

Bonoman

3/21/18 12:19pm

You think we make up to 20 million per year in football?

UNHuskerCoug

3/21/18 7:16pm

Who is saying BYU FB is going back to the MWC?

Heinz57

3/21/18 7:18pm

I wish this could be pinned to top of CB as constant reminder

Bandersnatch

3/22/18 7:19am

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