Probably (but not certainly) true. But it would most likely be like a million

Mar 21, 2018
12:52:34pm

Scratch All-American

bucks. If that's all it is, you don't make conference/independence decisions based on a million bucks. And I'm not arguing for MWC/AAC, I'm just saying that Teeples guy's analysis is straight crazy and should come nowhere near the analysis.

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Those that clamor for MWC or AAC should listen to Criddles guest yesterday. There’s no way we go back with football to

SouthernBlueBlood All-American

3/21/18 9:12am

But is the money everything? Would TH be willing to take that hit to make a NY6?

DoseOfReality

3/21/18 9:14am

For one game?

2FarGone

3/21/18 9:16am

No- NY6 is never a guarantee and whose to say if we were good enough that we wouldn’t get it? We don’t know but we do

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:17am

Oh- yes money is everything. No money no program- we can’t float our programs off of tithing

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:18am

Money is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 9:26am

Without money you can’t get there. When G5 hits a economic bubble states can pull funding. BYU will remain free of that

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:32am

BYU wouldn’t have a problem with this regardless, since it receives no state

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 9:38am

exactly. be in a league with similarly positioned schools, talent and money.

johnnycarson

3/21/18 9:42am

You’re completely ignoring the ecosystem of being in a conference. You’re ignoring the decline in

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:45am

I think I’ve acknowledged all of that, but one thing the Indy crowd does ignore

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 10:20am

If “higher end G5” is what BYU is right now. What about Indy is hurting BYU?

StalwartBraveTrue

3/21/18 2:31pm

While there are some schools with $50-100M more AD revenue, our current levels

The Llama

3/22/18 8:40am

So based on this logic. Let’s join the big sky!!!!

Pretorian

3/21/18 11:26am

Thank you for not bringing anything productive to the discussion.

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 1:16pm

Other than pointing out how the notion is a dumb idea?

Pretorian

3/21/18 1:25pm

Yes, that’s right. A group of middle schoolers respond to intelligent

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 1:29pm

Ha ha, well that level of response is on par with the brain trust that hatched

Pretorian

3/25/18 8:00pm

Everyone assumes we would suddenly make all these NY6 games if we were back in

andrewg3

3/21/18 10:55am

I would be fascinated to see how he comes up with those figures.

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 9:24am

He outlines his premise in the podcast. He was convincing

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:26am

Which is? Can’t listen at the moment.

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 9:27am

I don’t have the desire to re-listen to outline the details or I basically don’t recall the details just the overall

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 9:30am

His overall premise was flawed

Jesse Pinkman

3/21/18 9:56am

The hit on media contract $ alone would be $3+ million, but there's more to it than that. For example, many years

CalGTR

3/21/18 3:05pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:14pm

Wisconsin last year for one

GOR

3/21/18 7:17pm

Texas, Miss St, Virginia, GT, the entire P12

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:11pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 11:08pm

Georgia Tech came when we were in the MWC...

Coug

3/22/18 8:17am

UCONN, Cincinnati, Central Florida and SDSU...

Coug

3/22/18 8:22am

At my work we call it a PIDOOMA estimate. Not fascinating.

ALUF 1990

3/22/18 5:59am

Teeples made some serious leaps in logic there

Jesse Pinkman

3/21/18 9:51am

Only $3 million more? I think it’s more than that

AC_Coug

3/21/18 3:31pm

Why couldn't BYU get the neutral site games as an independent? And for every

Scratch

3/21/18 3:45pm

It's honestly not...

Coug

3/21/18 3:47pm

Can you break down where that $15-$20M is coming from? Because that makes no

Scratch

3/21/18 10:13am

It makes no sense, but it’s provocative enough to be parroted as truth for years

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 10:14am

Just watch...in the future people will use 15-20 million per year in posts supporting Independence...

Bonoman

3/21/18 12:17pm

I didn’t hear him claim those things. Here are some likely advantages of Indy:

ZooBlue

3/21/18 11:45am

How much bowl $$$ does BYU get as an Indy as opposed to sharing in conference?

Scratch

3/21/18 11:55am

Do the bowls pay BYU the same they pay a team from a conference? Wondered if

stealth

3/21/18 2:58pm

I thought I'd seen that for some of the bowls, where BYU gets a bit less than

Scratch

3/21/18 3:46pm

Well, this past year... especially bummer... but in the longer term, if I’m Tom,

ZooBlue

3/21/18 6:16pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:22pm

Exactly!

Pretorian

3/21/18 12:41pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:19pm

Donations and ticket prices/sales wouldn't collapse, of course, but there would be an impact. Just as there was a

CalGTR

3/21/18 3:14pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:28pm

You are being lazy in your post. The future home schedule is great because indy

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:21pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 10:56pm

And? You would mortgage that to continue playing crappy schedules in a crappy

BYUButters

3/25/18 9:06pm

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trjohnson007

3/25/18 10:14pm

I just listened because I was curious. That Ryan Teeples guy is either a

Scratch

3/21/18 11:02am

Well said. You lay out your points strongly

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/18 11:10am

We can disagree about how much money would be lost, but money would be lost

Remigius

3/21/18 12:46pm

Probably (but not certainly) true. But it would most likely be like a million

Scratch

3/21/18 12:52pm

Is there any chance that saying it’s only a million $ is crazy...?

ZooBlue

3/21/18 6:20pm

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trjohnson007

3/21/18 6:33pm

Of course

ZooBlue

3/22/18 8:22am

I agree with what you're saying otherwise, but where you getting 1 million from?

Westsider

3/21/18 7:41pm

I thought what I've seen is about $4.5-4.7 for all media rights (radio, TV, etc)

Scratch

3/21/18 7:50pm

I don't have any numbers in front of me, but didn't we get somewhere between

The Llama

3/22/18 8:54am

No, BYU's yearly disclosures that have been posted on here show BYU's revenues

Scratch

3/22/18 9:36am

Wow, that's definitely not what I was thinking. I've never seen those

The Llama

3/22/18 10:19am

Here's what I was thinking about for the most recent year available:

Scratch

3/22/18 10:35am

Thanks for sharing that. TV really isn't that big of a mover after all.

The Llama

3/23/18 3:05pm

Money would be lost, yet we would suddenly find ourselves as the best funded

Junior Deputy

3/21/18 1:19pm

I’m for aac but not mwc

AC_Coug

3/21/18 3:35pm

Earning potential goes down because the product is worse. Your statement's wrong

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:17pm

Teeples has some really good inside info on this... he's not guessing

jsjohnson1278

3/21/18 6:45pm

He just decided to withhold it on the radio and instead decided to make a bunch

Scratch

3/21/18 6:50pm

If you’ve met him you’ll know to laugh off the interview

Hoax

3/21/18 7:17pm

UVU graduate.

Cougarfan777

3/21/18 8:26pm

This is why people hate us.

sah22

3/21/18 9:50pm

And?

BYUButters

3/21/18 10:23pm

Their mascot is the Wolverines? I don't know, just pointing out he's not

Cougarfan777

3/21/18 11:43pm

Never confuse clamoring for desperation....the BYU fan base is desperate for any good news or good fortune...

Bonoman

3/21/18 12:19pm

You think we make up to 20 million per year in football?

UNHuskerCoug

3/21/18 7:16pm

Who is saying BYU FB is going back to the MWC?

Heinz57

3/21/18 7:18pm

I wish this could be pinned to top of CB as constant reminder

Bandersnatch

3/22/18 7:19am

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