Those that think he caught it need to watch it in real speed and not just freeze

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Sep 18, 2018
9:53:06am

Ned Schneebly Starter

Those that think he caught it need to watch it in real speed and not just freeze

frame it or watch it in slow motion. It wasn't a catch when it first hit his hands, and it wasn't a catch when he hit the ground. He had two hands on it and tucked in his bread basket for all of .0001 of a second in real time. Not a catch in any league under any rules.

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Ned Schneebly

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Time

Holker's "catch"

Ham

9/18/18 9:32am

What happened to his arm? It looked like a layer of skin got burned off

9/18/18 9:34am

RE: What happened to his arm? It looked like a layer of skin got burned off

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:39am

turf was 120 degrees

1984coug

9/18/18 11:24am

Welcome to fake grass...I have scars on my hips and elbows from playing on it...

whiteninja

9/18/18 2:12pm

I do

BigYfan

9/18/18 9:34am

ha ha

Dillinger

9/18/18 9:34am

I don’t think they would have given it to UW, but if they did,

bluesloth

9/18/18 9:41am

Dropped it

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

9/18/18 9:34am

I thought the replay was clear he dropped it.

jdub

9/18/18 9:35am

Yes he dropped the ball.

Zoobieman

9/18/18 9:36am

RE: Holker's "catch"

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:38am

Had he not juggled it when it first hit his hand you can make a case that the

9/18/18 9:50am

RE: Had he not juggled it when it first hit his hand you can make a case that

cougars8432

9/18/18 10:18am

I'd recommend going back and watching it again. The ball clearly pops out when

9/18/18 10:34am

RE: I'd recommend going back and watching it again. The ball clearly pops out

Cougar3284

9/18/18 1:21pm

Agree to disagree... but your son is a stud!!! 🙂

9/18/18 3:32pm

RE: Agree to disagree... but your son is a stud!!! 🙂

Cougar3284

9/18/18 3:34pm

Dude, your son is going to be an awesome player at BYU.

Ham

9/18/18 3:49pm

RE: Dude, your son is going to be an awesome player at BYU.

Cougar3284

9/18/18 4:51pm

Yep. He caught it and clearly had control. It looked like he lost control when he was

YardTime

9/18/18 6:40pm

Welcome to CougarBoard. My Advice: Enjoy CougarBoard for entertainment purposes only. 😉

9/18/18 6:24pm

A "football move" should be more than just falling to the ground.

Tricky

9/18/18 2:13pm

Honestly people who think it was a catch and fumble don't understand the rule

Adrielle

9/18/18 9:38am

Very clear that he dropped it, ball hit the ground and he never really had control.

9/18/18 9:39am

Just playing devil's advocate. He had the ball firmly in two hands at one point.

GOR

9/18/18 12:55pm

Does anyone think his little push off was OPI?

Endocoug

9/18/18 9:39am

RE: Does anyone think his little push off was OPI?

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:41am

eh, he'll make that catch. the greatest drop balls like that. they also make

smokymountainrain

9/18/18 9:41am

Dude is a true freshman. He'll catch more of those than he drops over his career

Eddie

9/18/18 9:46am

That play tells me he WILL be a big time player. Yeah, he should have reeled it in, and I think he will in the future.

jdub

9/18/18 9:41am

Coach Chryst thought it was. He was livid at the no call.

TN_Coug

9/18/18 9:42am

As would BYU coaches and fans if roles were reversed. Good no call though.

fulano

9/18/18 9:55am

Signed, BYU fan.

Ktar

9/18/18 1:03pm

Usually not called unless the receiver fully extends his harms.

9/18/18 9:42am

Not enough to be called

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

9/18/18 9:52am

It seemed kind of necessary to be able to get his hands up to catch the ball. If

9/18/18 9:59am

I thought it was OPI, so did chryst....

idacoug

9/18/18 12:41pm

Collie made a living in college (figuratively:) off of 'push offs' like that...

RICoug

9/18/18 2:55pm

All the great receivers use that technique. Austin Collie was the best!

9/18/18 4:32pm

I’m pretty sure he bumped the ball with his own leg.

PJMort

9/18/18 9:42am

The initial problem is the ball got into his facemask as he was making the catch

fulano

9/18/18 9:56am

Granted...I watched the game on my phone at an airport but that's how it looked.

fulano

9/18/18 9:57am

Yes

SDcookie

9/18/18 9:43am

Those that think he caught it need to watch it in real speed and not just freeze

9/18/18 9:53am

It wasn’t a catch

TunaNoCrust

9/18/18 10:02am

The only thing i think is that we should have hurried and snapped the ball.

ballen

9/18/18 10:03am

Yup. Cal burned us on that the week before but we need to be ready next time

fulano

9/18/18 10:11am

I was saying the same thing. Hurry, run a play. Right away.

Trent

9/18/18 11:27am

I was in the stadium and behind the play. It looked like a catch so i can see

ballen

9/18/18 11:50am

Was thinking the same thing.

Orem58thBall

9/18/18 7:43pm

I don't think it was indisputable, so the call on the field should stand.

HenderCoug

9/18/18 10:15am

Bingo, this is the answer.

Heavily MeDeekated

9/18/18 10:57am

Well, I do see people disputing it, so I guess that makes it indisputable...

BYUCLA

9/18/18 11:05am

Yes 100%

BigYfan

9/18/18 11:18am

It seems pretty indisputable to me. I was listening to the radio

kimdaddy35

9/18/18 11:42am

I would agree with this. I wasn't entirely sold that he didn't have control

archie

9/18/18 11:51am

This is my take on it as well

Big Papi

9/18/18 2:07pm

They had an angle they showed on TV that made it pretty obvious...

Eddie

9/18/18 3:07pm

And that may be. I was in the stadium, so I only saw what they showed on

Big Papi

9/18/18 9:52pm

I was pretty optimistic it would stand as a catch for the first 2-3 replays...

Eddie

9/19/18 8:35am

It was indisputable. I dont think there is any reasonable interpretation

LifeLongLakerFan

9/18/18 5:28pm

Dropped it imo

MatthiasG

9/18/18 10:52am

It was called a catch, it could go either way. It was not conclusive that

Pretorian

9/18/18 11:14am

He did take 2 steps with 2 hands on the ball, so I could see why some think that

Y4LYFE

9/18/18 11:16am

Here's the rule: (the clinchers are in first and third sentences of Article 3(b)

boscatar

9/18/18 12:09pm

That's the way it looked on slow-mo...but full speed prob looked like he dropped

9/18/18 12:22pm

I know he didn't catch it and he should have... but I like Holker a lot.

Heath Squashwell

9/18/18 12:37pm

I watched the replay numerous times. It looked to me like Holker caught the

Chuckie2304

9/18/18 1:34pm

if you watch the slomo in slomo, he had control for a very long time

Hill4Heisman

9/18/18 2:09pm

If you watch it in real time, he didn't have control for very long at all. If you read the rules, as linked above,

jdub

9/18/18 2:12pm

You serious, Clark?

Mr Blue

9/18/18 3:15pm

Sure am, Zoey. Just as serious as all the other people on this thread who agree with me, the replay officials

jdub

9/18/18 3:21pm

So you didnt catch at all that he was joking? "watching the slomo in slomo"

Mr Blue

9/19/18 8:26am

Wasn’t a catch.

9/18/18 2:27pm

Obvious incompletion. I was surprised they spent so long on the review.

The Chelsea Dagger

9/18/18 2:58pm

It's actually evident that he did catch the ball, then coughed it up. I also

RebelScum

9/18/18 5:47pm

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