The initial problem is the ball got into his facemask as he was making the catch

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Sep 18, 2018
9:56:57am

fulano All-American

That started the "lack of control" that never ended until he fell on it.

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fulano

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Holker's "catch"

Ham

9/18/18 9:32am

What happened to his arm? It looked like a layer of skin got burned off

Huge Manatee

9/18/18 9:34am

RE: What happened to his arm? It looked like a layer of skin got burned off

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:39am

turf was 120 degrees

1984coug

9/18/18 11:24am

Welcome to fake grass...I have scars on my hips and elbows from playing on it...

whiteninja

9/18/18 2:12pm

I do

BigYfan

9/18/18 9:34am

ha ha

Dillinger

9/18/18 9:34am

I don’t think they would have given it to UW, but if they did,

bluesloth

9/18/18 9:41am

Dropped it

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

9/18/18 9:34am

I thought the replay was clear he dropped it.

jdub

9/18/18 9:35am

Yes he dropped the ball.

Zoobieman

9/18/18 9:36am

RE: Holker's "catch"

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:38am

Had he not juggled it when it first hit his hand you can make a case that the

Ned Schneebly

9/18/18 9:50am

RE: Had he not juggled it when it first hit his hand you can make a case that

cougars8432

9/18/18 10:18am

I'd recommend going back and watching it again. The ball clearly pops out when

Ned Schneebly

9/18/18 10:34am

RE: I'd recommend going back and watching it again. The ball clearly pops out

Cougar3284

9/18/18 1:21pm

Agree to disagree... but your son is a stud!!! 🙂

Ned Schneebly

9/18/18 3:32pm

RE: Agree to disagree... but your son is a stud!!! 🙂

Cougar3284

9/18/18 3:34pm

Dude, your son is going to be an awesome player at BYU.

Ham

9/18/18 3:49pm

RE: Dude, your son is going to be an awesome player at BYU.

Cougar3284

9/18/18 4:51pm

Yep. He caught it and clearly had control. It looked like he lost control when he was

YardTime

9/18/18 6:40pm

Welcome to CougarBoard. My Advice: Enjoy CougarBoard for entertainment purposes only. 😉

BYU Folsom Fan

9/18/18 6:24pm

A "football move" should be more than just falling to the ground.

Tricky

9/18/18 2:13pm

Honestly people who think it was a catch and fumble don't understand the rule

Adrielle

9/18/18 9:38am

Very clear that he dropped it, ball hit the ground and he never really had control.

BengalCougar

9/18/18 9:39am

Just playing devil's advocate. He had the ball firmly in two hands at one point.

GOR

9/18/18 12:55pm

Does anyone think his little push off was OPI?

Endocoug

9/18/18 9:39am

RE: Does anyone think his little push off was OPI?

cougars8432

9/18/18 9:41am

eh, he'll make that catch. the greatest drop balls like that. they also make

smokymountainrain

9/18/18 9:41am

Dude is a true freshman. He'll catch more of those than he drops over his career

Eddie

9/18/18 9:46am

That play tells me he WILL be a big time player. Yeah, he should have reeled it in, and I think he will in the future.

jdub

9/18/18 9:41am

Coach Chryst thought it was. He was livid at the no call.

TN_Coug

9/18/18 9:42am

As would BYU coaches and fans if roles were reversed. Good no call though.

fulano

9/18/18 9:55am

Signed, BYU fan.

Ktar

9/18/18 1:03pm

Usually not called unless the receiver fully extends his harms.

Freddie Cougar

9/18/18 9:42am

Not enough to be called

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

9/18/18 9:52am

It seemed kind of necessary to be able to get his hands up to catch the ball. If

BeefNoodleCoug

9/18/18 9:59am

I thought it was OPI, so did chryst....

idacoug

9/18/18 12:41pm

Collie made a living in college (figuratively:) off of 'push offs' like that...

RICoug

9/18/18 2:55pm

All the great receivers use that technique. Austin Collie was the best!

BYU Folsom Fan

9/18/18 4:32pm

I’m pretty sure he bumped the ball with his own leg.

PJMort

9/18/18 9:42am

The initial problem is the ball got into his facemask as he was making the catch

fulano

9/18/18 9:56am

Granted...I watched the game on my phone at an airport but that's how it looked.

fulano

9/18/18 9:57am

Yes

SDcookie

9/18/18 9:43am

Those that think he caught it need to watch it in real speed and not just freeze

Ned Schneebly

9/18/18 9:53am

It wasn’t a catch

TunaNoCrust

9/18/18 10:02am

The only thing i think is that we should have hurried and snapped the ball.

ballen

9/18/18 10:03am

Yup. Cal burned us on that the week before but we need to be ready next time

fulano

9/18/18 10:11am

I was saying the same thing. Hurry, run a play. Right away.

Trent

9/18/18 11:27am

I was in the stadium and behind the play. It looked like a catch so i can see

ballen

9/18/18 11:50am

Was thinking the same thing.

Orem58thBall

9/18/18 7:43pm

I don't think it was indisputable, so the call on the field should stand.

HenderCoug

9/18/18 10:15am

Bingo, this is the answer.

Heavily MeDeekated

9/18/18 10:57am

Well, I do see people disputing it, so I guess that makes it indisputable...

BYUCLA

9/18/18 11:05am

Yes 100%

BigYfan

9/18/18 11:18am

It seems pretty indisputable to me. I was listening to the radio

kimdaddy35

9/18/18 11:42am

I would agree with this. I wasn't entirely sold that he didn't have control

archie

9/18/18 11:51am

This is my take on it as well

Big Papi

9/18/18 2:07pm

They had an angle they showed on TV that made it pretty obvious...

Eddie

9/18/18 3:07pm

And that may be. I was in the stadium, so I only saw what they showed on

Big Papi

9/18/18 9:52pm

I was pretty optimistic it would stand as a catch for the first 2-3 replays...

Eddie

9/19/18 8:35am

It was indisputable. I dont think there is any reasonable interpretation

LifeLongLakerFan

9/18/18 5:28pm

Dropped it imo

MatthiasG

9/18/18 10:52am

It was called a catch, it could go either way. It was not conclusive that

Pretorian

9/18/18 11:14am

He did take 2 steps with 2 hands on the ball, so I could see why some think that

Y4LYFE

9/18/18 11:16am

Here's the rule: (the clinchers are in first and third sentences of Article 3(b)

boscatar

9/18/18 12:09pm

That's the way it looked on slow-mo...but full speed prob looked like he dropped

zerome4sooners

9/18/18 12:22pm

I know he didn't catch it and he should have... but I like Holker a lot.

Heath Squashwell

9/18/18 12:37pm

I watched the replay numerous times. It looked to me like Holker caught the

Chuckie2304

9/18/18 1:34pm

if you watch the slomo in slomo, he had control for a very long time

Hill4Heisman

9/18/18 2:09pm

If you watch it in real time, he didn't have control for very long at all. If you read the rules, as linked above,

jdub

9/18/18 2:12pm

You serious, Clark?

Mr Blue

9/18/18 3:15pm

Sure am, Zoey. Just as serious as all the other people on this thread who agree with me, the replay officials

jdub

9/18/18 3:21pm

So you didnt catch at all that he was joking? "watching the slomo in slomo"

Mr Blue

9/19/18 8:26am

Wasn’t a catch.

Gerald-DeGroot

9/18/18 2:27pm

Obvious incompletion. I was surprised they spent so long on the review.

The Chelsea Dagger

9/18/18 2:58pm

It's actually evident that he did catch the ball, then coughed it up. I also

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