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Jan 8, 2019
11:57
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Carnac
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And a certain percentage of our country
will keep crying about how this is discrimination (which it is) and how unfair it is.
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Universal Healthcare is fine with me IF
Carnac
1/8/19 11:41am
Lol. “I don’t want single payer, but if we have to do it, can we at least take away everyone’s individual liberty
Pimpin4Paradise
1/8/19 11:44am
Don't miss my point, here
Carnac
1/8/19 11:46am
I’m actually in favor of single payer at this point.
Pimpin4Paradise
1/8/19 11:54am
And a certain percentage of our country
Carnac
1/8/19 11:57am
Unlikely to get knee replacement with BMI > 40 HbA1C > 7.8, tobacco or on
Osteotome
1/8/19 12:03pm
This would actually motivate me to get into great shape and stay that way.
SolidBlue
1/8/19 12:41pm
Why BMI? Don't incentivize against heavy weight lifting. Use body fat % instead
Extra Biscuits
1/8/19 12:46pm
Penalizing your type for steroid use.
Carnac
1/8/19 12:47pm
At least you won't have to pay for us to have kids
Extra Biscuits
1/8/19 12:50pm
He makes a good point. Don't take my liberty to not pay for your bad decisions
TailgateU
1/8/19 12:34pm
I'm ok with single payer health care as long as there are heavy fees/fines for
Powerbait DPM studnt
1/9/19 1:05pm
Problem is you’re already paying for it
cougfanz
1/8/19 11:44am
I know. It would only get worse.
Carnac
1/8/19 11:45am
Kind of. The thing with single payer would be cost control is 100x more effectiv
cougfanz
1/8/19 11:53am
Exactly. Why are we trying to be the UK?
Carnac
1/8/19 11:54am
We actually are getting closer than people realize to resource control
cougfanz
1/8/19 12:03pm
RE: Universal Healthcare is fine with me IF
maxpowers
1/8/19 11:47am
Problem is we already have it
Acorn
1/8/19 11:54am
So many would oppose on the grounds of individual liberties infringements; but
unctoothman
1/8/19 12:07pm
We pretty much have a degree of universal healthcare now. You just have to quit
Little Britches
1/8/19 12:16pm
Quitting your job is not going to allow you to go on Obamacare.
CDV
1/8/19 12:34pm
Yes, Medicaid the first year and then Obamacare after
Little Britches
1/8/19 1:51pm
Nope. If you quit your job and have no income you will never ever ever be eligible for an Obamacare policy.
CDV
1/8/19 2:29pm
LOL! All these types of poor behaviors already exist in your insurance 🙂
Iki_Balam
1/8/19 1:33pm
I understand this.
Carnac
1/8/19 1:36pm
Exactly. The old saying "Few apples ruin the bunch".
Iki_Balam
1/8/19 2:52pm
That's the point behind universal healthcare
Iki_Balam
1/8/19 3:06pm
THat's it! Iki has it right - you're already paying for it in different ways,
jaba166
1/9/19 12:26am
I select healthy pool, don't you?
shuaige
1/8/19 3:34pm
Imagine that’s your employer subsidizing that not the insurance company though
cougfanz
1/8/19 3:41pm
Not for tobacco
shuaige
1/8/19 3:50pm
If by "pay", do you mean not receive as many benefits?
Iki_Balam
1/8/19 7:43pm
No, I mean pay
shuaige
1/8/19 10:03pm
I'd love to see this plan. Especially how to prove someone is a user
Iki_Balam
1/9/19 10:25pm
Some of those behaviors like smoking save the system money
cougfanz
1/8/19 2:41pm
It’s not the nejm but this Forbes article hits on these points
cougfanz
1/8/19 2:57pm
thanks for sharing, didn't realize that
shuaige
1/8/19 3:55pm
Key is a two tier system like Germany. VA for everyone with basic care and no
cougfanz
1/8/19 4:15pm
I'd be down.
Slim
1/8/19 4:53pm
That’s how I think it should work. Crappy cheap everything with minimum service
Y2k
1/8/19 8:02pm
From what I've heard, the German system is pretty good and actually much closer
ArchbishopMitty
1/9/19 12:44pm
Do you think that will make the health care industry businesses want less money?
Y2k
1/8/19 7:55pm
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