Actually, the Holy War has always belonged to Utah with the exception being the first 20 years of Lavell's tenure.

Apr 18, 2019
1:45:57pm

SpiffCoug All-American

The entirety of BYU football prior to Lavell and the period after his first 20 years have been utter domination by the Utes.

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Wittingham owns us - I feel dead inside thinking about the Holy War

pistol12

4/18/19 12:53pm

But then, off in the distance, a Knight approaches

cougarmanguy

4/18/19 12:54pm

RE: Wittingham owns us - I feel dead inside thinking about the Holy War

slappy

4/18/19 12:56pm

As I was reading that, I thought about this picture from earlier this morning.

crack

4/18/19 1:01pm

Finally, BYU about to return the backup QB treatment to Utah

WDaddy

4/18/19 1:02pm

None of us can deny what you’re saying but this is a new year man

Cashmeousside

4/18/19 1:03pm

9 years- 8 games. You have no idea the physical toll that 8 straight losses can have on a person! 🙂

whitey1980

4/18/19 5:19pm

It's been pretty amazing what's had to happen for him to 'keep that promise'-

Cougar76

4/18/19 1:09pm

You make it sound like Utah’s performance had nothing to do with

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:20pm

The talent gap might not be huge, but it exists. However, the "depth gap" is MASSIVE.

whitey1980

4/18/19 1:36pm

I agree.

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:40pm

Utah has a depth advantage. I don’t think it’s MASSIVE. And yes, if it was massive,

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:52pm

It's not massive, but if you compare the 1 and 2s Utah has the advantage overall

Cougar TD

4/18/19 2:51pm

Never said that at all. Utah has been better. But luck has been with them.

Cougar76

4/18/19 1:40pm

All excuses. Bad calls were made against them also. Injuries happen to them too. Heck, we played them

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:22pm

BYU players going out in the 2nd half probably affected things, but...

DryFlyUte

4/18/19 1:27pm

With all due respect, players were not sat during that game because of the P12 championship.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:32pm

Hey DryFlyUte - you can't give him a thumbs down. He said "With all due respect"

crack

4/18/19 1:48pm

Fair enough - he has been respectful

DryFlyUte

4/18/19 2:41pm

I am using info from somebody who posts on UteHub

DryFlyUte

4/18/19 2:02pm

Did you watch the game? That’s one reason to not believe him. All the starters played the whole game.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:11pm

I appreciate you being balanced towards Utah

DryFlyUte

4/18/19 2:30pm

That’s fair. No need to try to convince you. We’re good.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:33pm

The same guys who had 'inside info' that Utah wouldn't accept 4* top DB recruit

Cougar76

4/18/19 2:17pm

No. It’s one guy. Utehub wasn’t around during the lake commitment.

ironman1315

4/18/19 3:16pm

So arrogant and delusional.

Cougar76

4/18/19 1:41pm

Just a fan. It’s always funny to me how fans see games. We all see what we want to see.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:45pm

You can tell this is true by how great Utah played in the championship game!

BlueBeliever

4/18/19 8:31pm

Underrated reply. Almost all fans severely discount the role of randomness in

Throwaway59840

4/18/19 5:33pm

It's easy to forget that the U has only been relevant when KW was in the picture

NOCAL_YFAN

4/18/19 1:25pm

Maybe do a little research about the reasons why Kyle

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:34pm

Out of curiosity, where did you read this?

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:34pm

I can’t recall. It’s been a long time. There are probably others

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:42pm

I don't need to research it young padowan, I lived through it. But your insight

NOCAL_YFAN

4/18/19 1:41pm

I really don’t care if you don’t believe me.

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:43pm

I know the story pretty well. Maybe his bishop gave him some counsel? But no “high ranking” church leader

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 1:49pm

President Oaks. Don’t know this for a fact, though.

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:54pm

Was this written somewhere? I’m pretty comfortable saying I’m in the know on the story and

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:00pm

I don’t believe it is written anywhere, but I heard from 3

Jdoc

4/18/19 2:08pm

Okay. Well I guess I’m one person who can tell you I haven’t heard that and probably would have if it happened.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:14pm

I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure. All I know is that these

Jdoc

4/18/19 2:22pm

Just saying, I’d pump the brakes before sharing that story as a fact.

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:28pm

Fair enough. I shouldn’t represent it as fact. I will revise the posts

Jdoc

4/18/19 2:40pm

Nah. No need to change any posts. That’s more work than a message board is worth. 🙂

The Dude Abides

4/18/19 2:55pm

Here is a little protip for you, little guy: just because you read it on a

NOCAL_YFAN

4/18/19 1:51pm

<< Deleted >>

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:53pm

Here are some facts...

whitey1980

4/18/19 2:02pm

Not everything makes it into the paper.

Jdoc

4/18/19 2:10pm

Let's say this is true, it's such a conflict of interest.

TheWoodman

4/18/19 3:19pm

The reason he chose Utah is because he went to the temple

chinngiskhaan

4/18/19 3:36pm

Actually, the Holy War has always belonged to Utah with the exception being the first 20 years of Lavell's tenure.

SpiffCoug

4/18/19 1:45pm

Yes, that is one way to look at it, but going back before the modern era of

NOCAL_YFAN

4/18/19 1:53pm

Lol! Modern Age. Hilarious. As long as it fits what you want

Jdoc

4/18/19 1:55pm

When BYU was an academy, all games played in SLC, and leather helmets? Cool.

Cougar76

4/18/19 1:55pm

Really, that was the point? Not the PAC invite?

Pretorian

4/18/19 4:59pm

Actually, they did pretty good during the Urbam Meyer years, precisely why he

jaba166

4/19/19 1:45am

You serious, Clark? Utah leads, 61–34–4...

whitey1980

4/19/19 3:34am

Whittingham has owned the Holy War since he became a coach at Utah in 1993. Utah is 18-7 since.

SpiffCoug

4/18/19 1:41pm

I know a good psychologist you can see to help you get over it.

BeefNoodleSoup

4/18/19 2:12pm

Cheer up pistol, as soon as we beat them

cougarnw

4/18/19 2:52pm

Didn't we have ZW last year? (vs. Utah w/o their starting QB and RB) It gives me no real pleasure to state that Utah

whitey1980

4/18/19 3:11pm

Not being P5 doesn’t mean BYU is a worse program

puntersarepeople

4/18/19 3:21pm

Worse? Worse than what? Worse than its past self? No. Worse than USU? No. Worse than Utah? Absolutely.

whitey1980

4/18/19 3:48pm

My point wasn't that we were better. It was that P5 status isn't the only reason

puntersarepeople

4/18/19 4:08pm

Whittingham Skill = Good. Whittingham Luck = Better

climps

4/18/19 5:00pm

whoops meant to post under original thread

climps

4/18/19 5:05pm

careful... lest the blue goggled unrealistic CB mob attacks you for being a

theJuice

4/18/19 2:55pm

And then tack on an extra fee to pay for their tickets.

ochobeeguy

4/18/19 5:42pm

Well, he appears to me to want to stay coaching at UU for his career and to

AntiSNOT

4/18/19 3:09pm

From your mouth to God's ears. Here's hoping Whit stays for many years to come.

311polo

4/18/19 3:16pm

It was a Bronco problem

puntersarepeople

4/18/19 3:09pm

And Crowton and Sitake. Although Crowton did get 1 of 4.

ochobeeguy

4/18/19 5:40pm

Crowton and Sitake haven’t had there struggles confined to the Utah game

puntersarepeople

4/18/19 6:46pm

Well, we need to get rid of Bronco and get someone who understands the Utah game

BeardedSpock

4/18/19 7:42pm

I think Sitake pulls it off this year

puntersarepeople

4/18/19 7:43pm

So many wimpy fans.

Benfica1

4/18/19 5:07pm

That's not something I'll ever publicly announce.

ditch

4/18/19 8:27pm

It is true, KW is in the heads of the team.

kolt7

4/18/19 10:55pm

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