so you're saying our coaches are so dumb that they're going to spend time and money recruiting a kid that they know the

Apr 21, 2019
12:17:20am

HarlemCoug All-American

NCAA will disqualify for us? You think our recruiting team misunderstands the grad transfer rules? Williams ability (meaning acceptable to the NCAA) to transfer to BYU was known by BYU coaches before we made an offer.

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Little research on grad transfer info tonight. This is on Williams to figure out w/ some help from BYU.

soupie All Little League

4/20/19 11:45pm

This is interesting

SL12

4/20/19 11:46pm

What programs do we offer that they don’t? We are primarily undergrad.

dtownCoug

4/20/19 11:51pm

That may be what makes grad transfers hard at BYU. We don't have as many programs & those we

soupie

4/20/19 11:54pm

Haha. We need this

8Bcougar

4/21/19 1:06am

Even better... start an MA in sports broadcasting. Students enrolled will get

TailgateU

4/22/19 7:36am

Hasn’t the “different major” rule been dropped?

RdF3

4/20/19 11:51pm

If it has, it's not showing up that way on the current NCAA site.

soupie

4/20/19 11:53pm

I’m seeing that too but I swear I’ve read about a work around for that so it’s

RdF3

4/20/19 11:55pm

I've read it here on CB. You can't put anything on CB, unless it's true. The MODS would delete it immediately.

BYUALWAYSNUM1

4/21/19 7:19am

So apparently most grad transfers can transfer with the “one time transfer

RdF3

4/21/19 9:29am

That would make sense since it’s his second transfer. Collie

soupie

4/21/19 9:33am

Not an expert in the rule change but

jrj84105

4/21/19 7:35am

It's all on BYU. You don't offer a spot to someone on the roster unless the hurdles are cleared. You don't put up

foofcoug

4/20/19 11:56pm

But it's not a BYU hurdle. It's an NCAA hurdle. Maybe those other schools have more grad programs

soupie

4/20/19 11:58pm

It absolutely is a BYU hurdle. As I said, don't recruit a guy, compete with other schools for his sevices, get him to

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:01am

Maybe if they didn't question him about what program he'd pursue. Guess the coaches need to

soupie

4/21/19 12:03am

You'd think that many would be involved from coaches to RC to AD to the academic propeller heads who have the say in who

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:07am

Suppose that's a fair analogy but not sure we've been having the right conversation about it the last few days.

soupie

4/21/19 12:09am

Does the applicant have any burden to ensure they meet the licensing requirements for the position advertised?

soupie

4/21/19 12:12am

That should be vetted prior to being offered the position. And likely weeded out prior to interviews.

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:14am

Yeah, because everyone involved has done this at least 100 times in the past and

Rocketman

4/21/19 6:49am

The school has been through it with Jordan Leslie and it wasn't THAT long ago. Granted, it was a different staff but

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:38am

And Collie just last year.

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:44am

And Esukpa just weeks ago.

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:50am

Harvey Jackson

BYUALWAYSNUM1

4/21/19 8:07am

So you are blaming Kalani? I don't think everyone is an expert on every rule all

777

4/21/19 12:16am

If you're messing with someone's future like this, all involved at the offering institution better yewt well know what

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:20am

In all seriousness though, how much are we messing with his future? Can't he

777

4/21/19 1:05am

Are they options now that he has committed to BYU? Have they moved on to other options?

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:28am

You're not wrong, but the point is that it's a bad look for BYU.

DraperCoug22

4/21/19 3:32pm

Please. You’re butt hurt over how it affect BYU. Don’t act concerned about him.

autonomous

4/21/19 1:03pm

Really? It is totally unfair to him. It could really screw him over if his

The Dude Abides

4/21/19 1:05pm

It is and it could definitely have a negative impact on him.

autonomous

4/21/19 1:15pm

I think you’re wrong on that. We all want BYU to get better but none of us wants a kid to get

The Dude Abides

4/21/19 1:17pm

And I'd counter that your opinion is wrong in this instance. Of course I want the team to be bbetter and I want

foofcoug

4/21/19 2:03pm

IF he’s not intending to finish the program, then they aren’t messing with his

StantonMac

4/21/19 4:15pm

If he's not intending to finish, it make no different which program is chosen.

CougarThug

4/21/19 6:04pm

so you're saying our coaches are so dumb that they're going to spend time and money recruiting a kid that they know the

HarlemCoug

4/21/19 12:17am

I have no idea who knew what. I was just trying to sort out the grad transfer

soupie

4/21/19 12:40am

Yep, this is just another reason why the original post is nonsense.

Short_Changed

4/21/19 12:51am

Don’t appreciate the personal accusation. Just tell me how these things work.

soupie

4/21/19 12:57am

Chill, I said the post was dumb. I explained why. No idea what program Collie

Short_Changed

4/21/19 1:28am

In defense of Soupie, you are the one that probably needs to chill, in two

777

4/21/19 3:30am

Certainly you that needs to chill.

Refugee

4/21/19 7:40am

Collie was in the MPA program

donnerstag

4/21/19 7:29am

That’s right. And Hawai’i has an MPA program. So did Collie get a waiver, too?

Short_Changed

4/21/19 2:54pm

That is a possibility.

coolblue

4/21/19 7:08am

I’m guessing it’s the school/admin issue but I wouldn’t put it past this staff to botch something like this #thisisY

TEXAS

4/21/19 8:43am

I was about to give you a POTD but then you said we're trying to be like Harvard. But Harvard accepts kids who don't

HarlemCoug

4/21/19 12:15am

One glaring difference, however – Ivy League schools don't even have athletic scholarships

SingleStrapBackpack

4/21/19 12:44am

Sorry, but this post is dumb. Jordan Chatman grad transferred to BC without

Short_Changed

4/21/19 12:41am

Maybe there’s an appeal he got. Don’t shoot the messenger just trying to sort it out.

soupie

4/21/19 12:43am

That's what the rules say. Someone more knowledgeable than I would have to reconcile what you say it actually happening

SingleStrapBackpack

4/21/19 12:46am

The world is NOT our campus.

dizthewiz

4/21/19 2:32am

There’s no demand

Tsisquan

4/21/19 2:35am

The steps to qualify for the grad program is completely up to BYU

donnerstag

4/21/19 6:23am

True. BYU can enforce whatever requirements it wants.

Wingnut

4/21/19 2:33pm

...up to the BYU Graduate Program he is applying to*

The Dark Knight

4/21/19 3:10pm

Ultimately it's up to BYU

donnerstag

4/21/19 3:31pm

Master of religion?

Heath Squashwell

4/21/19 6:33am

There is something majorly wrong

bigjohn

4/21/19 8:14am

He probably visited a few programs that he was considering of doing

scott715

4/21/19 9:15am

Except NCAA never seems to enforce these rules on other programs

SlantRoute

4/21/19 9:16am

I can say with 100% certainty that the issue lies with BYU, not with Williams or the NCAA. You are wrong.

BengalCougar

4/21/19 9:21am

Ok so explain it to us and how it can be resolved. Love to hear.

soupie

4/21/19 9:23am

People involved with admissions are acting like it's a huge burden to admit one guy that may or may not choose to...

BengalCougar

4/21/19 9:33am

That wouldn’t be the Comms school. They have tons of athletes.

soupie

4/21/19 9:41am

I am sure they do, I just know who ever is involved is strongly resisting adding another graduate transfer...

BengalCougar

4/21/19 9:45am

You seem very certain of yourself for only having conjecture...

SWP

4/21/19 3:18pm

And I can say with 100 percent certainty that not all the ego and arrogance is

StantonMac

4/21/19 12:05pm

Well I didn't believe it, tell now!

BYUALWAYSNUM1

4/21/19 9:36am

*Until

Wingnut

4/21/19 9:59am

What a dumb rule. It’s common to change schools for graduate work

Colorado

4/21/19 9:23am

What if he changed his Masters to Religious studies,specializing in Mormonism

FootFAN

4/21/19 11:56am

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FootFAN

4/21/19 12:00pm

CoJC[oLDS]ism?

bruincoug

4/21/19 4:28pm

That's the most thorough report to date on the matter...thanks Soupie.

Heinz57

4/21/19 2:42pm

Not really. At best it was unintentionally misleading.

TCuz

4/21/19 3:16pm

How about a masters in joseph smith studies?

buckeyecougarguy

4/21/19 5:48pm

Yawn... Zzzzzz... Just more speculation.

CougarThug

4/21/19 6:17pm

Not many people read your premise Soupie.

Bullrider

4/21/19 10:24pm

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