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Apr 21, 2019
1:17:28pm

The Dude Abides The royal we.

I think you’re wrong on that. We all want BYU to get better but none of us wants a kid to get

screwed over especially by BYU. If I read a story about a kid committing to UCLA then UCLA didn’t let him in and his other options were gone, I’d feel bad for the kid and I’d also be annoyed with UCLA. I believe foofcoug is coming at this from that same perspective.

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The Dude Abides

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Little research on grad transfer info tonight. This is on Williams to figure out w/ some help from BYU.

soupie All Little League

4/20/19 11:45pm

This is interesting

SL12

4/20/19 11:46pm

What programs do we offer that they don’t? We are primarily undergrad.

dtownCoug

4/20/19 11:51pm

That may be what makes grad transfers hard at BYU. We don't have as many programs & those we

soupie

4/20/19 11:54pm

Haha. We need this

8Bcougar

4/21/19 1:06am

Even better... start an MA in sports broadcasting. Students enrolled will get

TailgateU

4/22/19 7:36am

Hasn’t the “different major” rule been dropped?

RdF3

4/20/19 11:51pm

If it has, it's not showing up that way on the current NCAA site.

soupie

4/20/19 11:53pm

I’m seeing that too but I swear I’ve read about a work around for that so it’s

RdF3

4/20/19 11:55pm

I've read it here on CB. You can't put anything on CB, unless it's true. The MODS would delete it immediately.

4/21/19 7:19am

So apparently most grad transfers can transfer with the “one time transfer

RdF3

4/21/19 9:29am

That would make sense since it’s his second transfer. Collie

soupie

4/21/19 9:33am

Not an expert in the rule change but

jrj84105

4/21/19 7:35am

It's all on BYU. You don't offer a spot to someone on the roster unless the hurdles are cleared. You don't put up

foofcoug

4/20/19 11:56pm

But it's not a BYU hurdle. It's an NCAA hurdle. Maybe those other schools have more grad programs

soupie

4/20/19 11:58pm

It absolutely is a BYU hurdle. As I said, don't recruit a guy, compete with other schools for his sevices, get him to

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:01am

Maybe if they didn't question him about what program he'd pursue. Guess the coaches need to

soupie

4/21/19 12:03am

You'd think that many would be involved from coaches to RC to AD to the academic propeller heads who have the say in who

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:07am

Suppose that's a fair analogy but not sure we've been having the right conversation about it the last few days.

soupie

4/21/19 12:09am

Does the applicant have any burden to ensure they meet the licensing requirements for the position advertised?

soupie

4/21/19 12:12am

That should be vetted prior to being offered the position. And likely weeded out prior to interviews.

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:14am

Yeah, because everyone involved has done this at least 100 times in the past and

Rocketman

4/21/19 6:49am

The school has been through it with Jordan Leslie and it wasn't THAT long ago. Granted, it was a different staff but

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:38am

And Collie just last year.

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:44am

And Esukpa just weeks ago.

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:50am

Harvey Jackson

4/21/19 8:07am

So you are blaming Kalani? I don't think everyone is an expert on every rule all

777

4/21/19 12:16am

If you're messing with someone's future like this, all involved at the offering institution better yewt well know what

foofcoug

4/21/19 12:20am

In all seriousness though, how much are we messing with his future? Can't he

777

4/21/19 1:05am

Are they options now that he has committed to BYU? Have they moved on to other options?

foofcoug

4/21/19 7:28am

You're not wrong, but the point is that it's a bad look for BYU.

DraperCoug22

4/21/19 3:32pm

Please. You’re butt hurt over how it affect BYU. Don’t act concerned about him.

autonomous

4/21/19 1:03pm

Really? It is totally unfair to him. It could really screw him over if his

The Dude Abides

4/21/19 1:05pm

It is and it could definitely have a negative impact on him.

autonomous

4/21/19 1:15pm

I think you’re wrong on that. We all want BYU to get better but none of us wants a kid to get

The Dude Abides

4/21/19 1:17pm

And I'd counter that your opinion is wrong in this instance. Of course I want the team to be bbetter and I want

foofcoug

4/21/19 2:03pm

IF he’s not intending to finish the program, then they aren’t messing with his

StantonMac

4/21/19 4:15pm

If he's not intending to finish, it make no different which program is chosen.

CougarThug

4/21/19 6:04pm

so you're saying our coaches are so dumb that they're going to spend time and money recruiting a kid that they know the

HarlemCoug

4/21/19 12:17am

I have no idea who knew what. I was just trying to sort out the grad transfer

soupie

4/21/19 12:40am

Yep, this is just another reason why the original post is nonsense.

Short_Changed

4/21/19 12:51am

Don’t appreciate the personal accusation. Just tell me how these things work.

soupie

4/21/19 12:57am

Chill, I said the post was dumb. I explained why. No idea what program Collie

Short_Changed

4/21/19 1:28am

In defense of Soupie, you are the one that probably needs to chill, in two

777

4/21/19 3:30am

Certainly you that needs to chill.

Refugee

4/21/19 7:40am

Collie was in the MPA program

donnerstag

4/21/19 7:29am

That’s right. And Hawai’i has an MPA program. So did Collie get a waiver, too?

Short_Changed

4/21/19 2:54pm

That is a possibility.

coolblue

4/21/19 7:08am

I’m guessing it’s the school/admin issue but I wouldn’t put it past this staff to botch something like this #thisisY

TEXAS

4/21/19 8:43am

I was about to give you a POTD but then you said we're trying to be like Harvard. But Harvard accepts kids who don't

HarlemCoug

4/21/19 12:15am

One glaring difference, however – Ivy League schools don't even have athletic scholarships

SingleStrapBackpack

4/21/19 12:44am

Sorry, but this post is dumb. Jordan Chatman grad transferred to BC without

Short_Changed

4/21/19 12:41am

Maybe there’s an appeal he got. Don’t shoot the messenger just trying to sort it out.

soupie

4/21/19 12:43am

That's what the rules say. Someone more knowledgeable than I would have to reconcile what you say it actually happening

SingleStrapBackpack

4/21/19 12:46am

The world is NOT our campus.

dizthewiz

4/21/19 2:32am

There’s no demand

Tsisquan

4/21/19 2:35am

The steps to qualify for the grad program is completely up to BYU

donnerstag

4/21/19 6:23am

True. BYU can enforce whatever requirements it wants.

Wingnut

4/21/19 2:33pm

...up to the BYU Graduate Program he is applying to*

The Dark Knight

4/21/19 3:10pm

Ultimately it's up to BYU

donnerstag

4/21/19 3:31pm

Master of religion?

Heath Squashwell

4/21/19 6:33am

There is something majorly wrong

bigjohn

4/21/19 8:14am

He probably visited a few programs that he was considering of doing

scott715

4/21/19 9:15am

Except NCAA never seems to enforce these rules on other programs

SlantRoute

4/21/19 9:16am

I can say with 100% certainty that the issue lies with BYU, not with Williams or the NCAA. You are wrong.

4/21/19 9:21am

Ok so explain it to us and how it can be resolved. Love to hear.

soupie

4/21/19 9:23am

People involved with admissions are acting like it's a huge burden to admit one guy that may or may not choose to...

4/21/19 9:33am

That wouldn’t be the Comms school. They have tons of athletes.

soupie

4/21/19 9:41am

I am sure they do, I just know who ever is involved is strongly resisting adding another graduate transfer...

4/21/19 9:45am

You seem very certain of yourself for only having conjecture...

SWP

4/21/19 3:18pm

And I can say with 100 percent certainty that not all the ego and arrogance is

StantonMac

4/21/19 12:05pm

Well I didn't believe it, tell now!

4/21/19 9:36am

*Until

Wingnut

4/21/19 9:59am

What a dumb rule. It’s common to change schools for graduate work

Colorado

4/21/19 9:23am

What if he changed his Masters to Religious studies,specializing in Mormonism

FootFAN

4/21/19 11:56am

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FootFAN

4/21/19 12:00pm

CoJC[oLDS]ism?

bruincoug

4/21/19 4:28pm

That's the most thorough report to date on the matter...thanks Soupie.

Heinz57

4/21/19 2:42pm

Not really. At best it was unintentionally misleading.

TCuz

4/21/19 3:16pm

How about a masters in joseph smith studies?

buckeyecougarguy

4/21/19 5:48pm

Yawn... Zzzzzz... Just more speculation.

CougarThug

4/21/19 6:17pm

Not many people read your premise Soupie.

Bullrider

4/21/19 10:24pm

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