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Jun 7, 2019
9:37:33am

Northwest Cougar All-American

I had a religion class from a professor who gave us closed-book take home tests

The tests were mostly random trivia memorization that would be hard to know. If you did too well on the test he knew you cheated (because you took the test at home and could have opened your scriptures). Although I did have a few reasonably good religion classes at BYU there were others that were less good. That particular class/teacher has skewed my memories of BYU religion classes toward the negative even 30+ years later.

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Father in law was engineering prof and was told to make religion classes hard

jackryanslc

6/7/19 8:38am

I’m with you. This is just dumb.

6/7/19 8:41am

Why should a university-level religion class be dumbed down? This isn't Seminary.

kccougar

6/7/19 8:43am

I don't think anybody said anything about dumbed down

Sir_Ten

6/7/19 9:19am

And nothing in the original post said anything about making it artificially difficult

kccougar

6/7/19 9:31am

Also, religion classes are 2 credits, but some of my religion professors

fredgarvin

6/7/19 10:48am

Its also not a Theology degree if it were then ok. Its not.

6/8/19 12:29am

If you want academics create a divinity or theology degree.

Archaea

6/8/19 3:48pm

As a BYUI online only student, I can attest that the online religion classes

UberDeek

6/7/19 8:43am

Amen

KingDave

6/7/19 10:31am

"This religion class is too hard" is not a real problem. Sorry for moralizing

rcbyufan

6/7/19 8:45am

Why wouldn't we expect BYU classes to be rigorous--all classes for that matter.

Incentivize

6/7/19 8:46am

I worked so hard in my NT classes.

Gil Buckman

6/7/19 8:49am

I agree with you. As a side not, I had an engineering professor at BYU that also

cougarfan84

6/7/19 8:49am

"Make your religion classes as challenging as an engineering class" -I bet it was said by someone with a

Bert609

6/7/19 8:49am

I took Ludlow’s Isaiah class. It was good. Dude wore 70’s leisure suits.

PJMort

6/7/19 8:55am

I wish I was a freshman and could have taken it. I selected it at at time when I struggled mightily

Bert609

6/7/19 8:59am

Great point, can't have it both ways. Either accredited or not.

Mitty

6/7/19 11:21am

Religion is accredited? But is taught as a seminary not

Archaea

6/7/19 7:12pm

Yes, religion is part of the accrediation at BYU and none of my religion classes were taught "like Seminary"

Bert609

6/8/19 12:30am

Have you ever taken a Divinity class elsewhere?

Archaea

6/8/19 2:08pm

I probably had him then. Some of my religion classes were ridiculously hard.

Ragnar Danneskjold

6/7/19 8:53am

I stopped taking religion classes at BYU. They bugged me.

CocaColaRecovery

6/7/19 8:56am

wait, the objective was to help kids feel the spirit? not to stress them out

smokymountainrain

6/7/19 9:07am

Glad that worked for you. Pound for pound, however, the best teachers in the Chu

Incentivize

6/7/19 9:14am

They could transfer? I have family member who went to Ricks freshman year and

j20

6/7/19 9:15am

Difficult BYU religion classes saved my testimony.

Gorgias

6/7/19 9:45am

I loved my religion classes, the professors were next level scriptorians and

palangi

6/7/19 10:16am

Religion classes at BYU were as good as it gets. I loved my experience there, and institute classes at usu were a

MaxxPower

6/7/19 10:44pm

I felt that Religion Classes were 2 hours of credit but 4-5 credit hours of work

BYUtka

6/7/19 9:01am

This is so far from believable

rcbyufan

6/7/19 9:14am

It's true. They are only two credit hours each. You can look it up.

BYUtka

6/7/19 9:19am

I believe rcbyufan is doubting the 12-15 hours/wk of homework, not the 2 credits

Gorum the Old

6/7/19 9:26am

Depends on the instructor

fredgarvin

6/7/19 10:51am

Same...once I realized I could.

BYUtka

6/7/19 11:33am

If you take away my grades from my BYU religion classes

RenoCoug

6/7/19 9:04am

That would mean you graduated with around a 1.8 GPA(C-) in your religion classes

BYUheaven

6/7/19 9:29am

ashamed to admit it

RenoCoug

6/7/19 10:06am

then, please accept my apologies.

BYUheaven

6/7/19 10:11am

I just had a mental block with religion classes

RenoCoug

6/7/19 10:23am

i wonder how many of the professors who teach religion from outside the religion

v1k0u6

6/7/19 9:10am

My second half BOM class with a math professor was very difficult

BlackBart

6/7/19 9:15am

Have they gotten harder since the late 90's? Some were busy but still easy.

Colorado

6/7/19 9:22am

Some of the most ridiculous doctrine I’ve ever been taught was at BYU religion

Josef K

6/7/19 9:23am

Such as?

The Machine

6/7/19 9:25am

I learned that Rome fell because of the gays.

Jeremy

6/7/19 9:32am

LOL. Yeah. I remember being taught about how wicked Pompeii was.

The Machine

6/7/19 9:35am

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6/7/19 9:43am

That dinosaurs came from other planets, that the earth was physically moved

Josef K

6/7/19 9:34am

That's why engineering professors should only teach engineering.

ditch

6/8/19 12:16am

Perhaps my experience was unique, but most of my religion classes were simply

TheLoanArranger

6/7/19 9:26am

25 years ago there was simply too much variance in difficulty

Joe Banks

6/7/19 9:37am

This is one of the biggest problem with religion classes at BYU.

Gorum the Old

6/7/19 9:43am

They're teaching life skills. Are you smart enough to figure out which classes

rcbyufan

6/7/19 9:45am

I had a religion class from a professor who gave us closed-book take home tests

Northwest Cougar

6/7/19 9:37am

This is the biggest problem with religion classes. I don't know why, but it

Gorum the Old

6/7/19 10:17am

My Hardest Religion class was much easier than the easiest class in my major.

Gorum the Old

6/7/19 9:38am

In my opinion, the problem is the inconsistency. There's a reason certain courses fill up before the others. My freshman

jaromp

6/7/19 10:06am

i knew some people that seemed offended they could be graded in a religion class

buckeyecougarguy

6/7/19 10:13am

My favorite religion classes were taught by someone with a non-BYU PhD in

Murray

6/7/19 10:15am

My favorite religion classes at BYU were taught by the same professor and...

Homercles

6/7/19 10:22am

Sounds like we made have had the same prof

Gil Buckman

6/7/19 10:27am

I took a D&C class from H. Dean Garrett and it was a very enjoyable class. He

cougarfan84

6/7/19 10:37am

Having a ton of 4.0 students with 4 years of seminary come into a Book of Mormon

Fdnman

6/7/19 11:15am

Grading a non-academic class is ridiculous

Archaea

6/7/19 4:30pm

Bro. Randy Hayes got ticked at our class part way through the semester and told us we’d regret it.

Q-grr

6/7/19 7:40pm

If you don’t teach it on par with academia do t grade it so

Archaea

6/7/19 8:28pm

Drop them to a single credit then.

Q-grr

6/8/19 1:09pm

Pass/fail

Archaea

6/8/19 3:39pm

Lol Mods moved my post about this to Religion topic... so disingenuous

VballDad

6/7/19 10:51pm

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