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Jun 18, 2019
12:04:05pm

Ham All-American

Yeah, I only mentioned TH because he's the guy putting together the schedules.

I like Tom Holmoe, and I think he's done amazing things with BYU sports in his tenure. I would be sad to see him get fired, ultimately, but I don't want to excuse him for the disservice he's doing BYU football.

But actually, it's only a disservice in the eyes of those who want more wins. If playing against better teams is the goal, and winning is secondary, then he's doing a great job.

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Don't fire Kalani. Fix the real problem.

Ham

6/18/19 9:26am

Sorry, but 20-19 over three seasons and 11-15 over two isn’t a BYU problem.

ataylor

6/18/19 9:28am

It's a BYU problem if they told Sitake who he had to hire as coaches...

Coug

6/18/19 9:33am

It’s a Sitake problem if he took a job with assistants he didn’t want.

ataylor

6/18/19 9:55am

And then your stuck with a coach like Robert Anae... you think that would have been better?

Coug

6/18/19 10:01am

I don’t think it would have been worse.

ataylor

6/18/19 10:49am

yes, while we're at it we should blame him for the immigration problem at the...

icecougar

6/18/19 2:19pm

Please link any truth that he was forced to take certain coaches.

Count Cougar

6/18/19 10:03am

Steve Young admitted that he worked with Holmoe to get Detmer as coach.... That was a Tom Holmoe hire, not Sitake hire

Coug

6/18/19 10:21am

No way does BYU hire Detmer without the head coach’s approval.

ataylor

6/18/19 10:52am

Approval, sure. But that doesn't mean he was Kalani's 1st choice or that Holmoe

GOR

6/18/19 10:57am

If Sitake was the guy BYU wanted, he’s got plenty of leverage. I don’t think he

ataylor

6/18/19 12:23pm

oh suuuuuurrrrrre...puh-lenty of leverage. He could ask for all kinds of things

icecougar

6/18/19 2:48pm

or that Kalani didn't feel extra pressure to take the "suggestion" rather than

icecougar

6/18/19 2:41pm

Not true actually.

DadBod

6/18/19 11:53am

Sounds like revisionist history. But hey, if it makes you feel better, great.

ataylor

6/18/19 12:21pm

yes because you've offered so much inside info instead of your own opinion

icecougar

6/18/19 2:51pm

What is your take on what happened?

DadBod

6/18/19 2:13pm

That's like an incoming President who the day after his inauguration takes...

icecougar

6/18/19 2:27pm

IMO, Detmer wasn't the problem. Having Cahoon and Mahe on his staff was a much

ManicBlue

6/18/19 12:26pm

Detmer was every bit of the problem.

Coug

6/18/19 3:08pm

RE: Detmer was every bit of the problem.

ManicBlue

6/18/19 3:51pm

He was apart of picking his assistants...

Coug

6/18/19 3:55pm

You can't have that one both ways. Sitake was part of picking them too.

ManicBlue

6/18/19 4:24pm

Getting blown out by USU and losing to NIU was typical for Bronco?

OlanchoCoug

6/18/19 11:10am

RE: Don't fire Kalani. Fix the real problem.

acougfan

6/18/19 9:30am

2017 was an abomination.

Ham

6/18/19 9:33am

Loser mentality post. Make the schedule easier?!?

kotacoug

6/18/19 9:36am

Meh. You call it a loser mentality, I call it simple logic.

Ham

6/18/19 9:40am

I don’t hold him to Lavell standard. I’m willing to have some

kotacoug

6/18/19 9:56am

And you don't feel like that's happening?

Ham

6/18/19 10:30am

I'd say it's not a loser mentality more or rather a realistic mentality...

Coug

6/18/19 9:47am

Disagree. Take the lumps now and keep working towards

kotacoug

6/18/19 9:55am

BYU isn't in a position to take lumps...

Coug

6/18/19 10:00am

KS is the problem.

coolblue

6/18/19 9:41am

Booo!!!

CT98

6/18/19 10:26am

Bronco would have won a few more games than Kalani w that schedule. Kalani is

CObluezone

6/18/19 10:31am

I like Kalani, but losses to lesser teams such as

mitchwhite221

6/18/19 10:04am

I completely agree.

Ham

6/18/19 10:17am

his record against our 3 rivals is all I need to look at

Croweater

6/18/19 10:12am

Solution: BOT Invest $$$$$$$$$$$$ in the program. That's the real problem

CObluezone

6/18/19 10:19am

This is the truth.

kotacoug

6/18/19 10:27am

I honestly don't know if more money is the solution. BYU is very unique by the

CT98

6/18/19 10:38am

How are Shem and Japeth doing?

LDTemplar

6/18/19 10:28am

I've got enough problems with Egyptus.

Ham

6/18/19 10:31am

I want to keep scheduling P5 but invest to look more like a P5

GOR

6/18/19 10:49am

Utah State has taken us out to the woodshed with less resources

BlueBeliever

6/18/19 10:52am

I disagree about coach Edwards. Matter of fact, if

Mathew

6/18/19 10:54am

BYU does get P5 money. Not blue blood money. But middle of the pack P5 money.

Lance71

6/18/19 11:43am

This was going to be my first comment - BYU makes more $$ than any G5 school and

BYUMizzou

6/18/19 12:08pm

It was basic and anyone can see it. BYU players have a TON of disadvantages.

Fdnman

6/18/19 11:46am

I agree with you... Until you named Tom Holmoe as the real problem.

canndyman

6/18/19 11:57am

Yeah, I only mentioned TH because he's the guy putting together the schedules.

Ham

6/18/19 12:04pm

Terrible take.

Goliath

6/18/19 12:09pm

CB is a terrible place sometimes

6/18/19 12:11pm

This line makes absolutely NO SENSE

ManicBlue

6/18/19 2:22pm

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