These guys were true freshmen last season

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Aug 21, 2019
4:19:58pm

donnerstag All-American

To get any playing time at all shows you're an above average recruit. All the guys I listed are good players.

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donnerstag

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This is some serious locker room fodder for BYU

donnerstag

8/21/19 3:28pm

who said it?

hxmCougar2000

8/21/19 3:30pm

Dave Bartoo

SCcoug

8/21/19 3:31pm

Bartledoo?

coug almighty

8/21/19 5:24pm

“Kun paupo burgers”

WorldWideLeader

8/21/19 5:47pm

Would ya look at that?

byuguns55

8/21/19 6:53pm

Who's it attributed to? If it's from Bill Reilly, even the dumbest yewt fan...

Sock Gnome

8/21/19 3:32pm

RE: Who's it attributed to? If it's from Bill Reilly, even the dumbest yewt

NotTokolosh

8/21/19 5:34pm

He claims our recruiting classes have been going down each year.

Troy McClure

8/21/19 3:34pm

RE: He claims our recruiting classes have been going down each year.

donnerstag

8/21/19 3:39pm

She he's just basing it off of recruiting class ranking.

Troy McClure

8/21/19 3:41pm

So it is true that our rankings have gone down 4 years straight.

Troy McClure

8/21/19 3:45pm

Our rankings should go up this year if we can add guys like Gentry

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 4:15pm

So he is right. There are better ways to get a team motivated than telling the

coolblue

8/21/19 4:28pm

Quick look at 247 says that BYU national rankings were

TrueAggieBlue

8/21/19 3:41pm

Thanks.

Troy McClure

8/21/19 3:42pm

So, we dropped three straight years from 07-09 too?

SUAVO

8/21/19 3:52pm

And 04-06

SUAVO

8/21/19 3:52pm

07 and 08 were two of your best-ranked classes ever.

displacedute

8/21/19 3:54pm

Yeah but last 2 years have been worse than any other since 2000.

thebruce

8/21/19 7:33pm

The last two years were historically bad by BYU standards.

displacedute

8/21/19 3:51pm

Rivals stopped following BYU, so I'd take those rankings with a grain of salt

donnerstag

8/21/19 3:54pm

That's why I gave you the 247 rankings, I know how you guys feel about rivals

displacedute

8/21/19 4:27pm

Rivals isn’t worth paying attention to other than their top 100 recruits...

CoachSpeak

8/21/19 4:58pm

2017 set the program back in a lot of ways.

JuicyJam

8/21/19 3:55pm

The 2018 class actually looks great thus far

donnerstag

8/21/19 4:09pm

We can't call Dax Milne a gem yet - 69 TOTAL receiving yards at BYU so far

MikeDitka'sStache

8/21/19 4:16pm

These guys were true freshmen last season

donnerstag

8/21/19 4:19pm

None of those players have proven much yet

I'mBatman

8/21/19 4:44pm

A couple of them are possibly starters in Herron and LaChance

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 5:34pm

I do not give coaches any credit for pwos that turn out to be good...

CoachSpeak

8/21/19 5:38pm

I understand that, although sometimes maybe a coach gets them as a PWO because

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 5:47pm

You have to give the coaches credit for getting good PWO players on campus

donnerstag

8/21/19 5:48pm

Kafentzis really doesn’t belong on that list...

CoachSpeak

8/21/19 5:54pm

The point is a lot of guys don’t deserve scholarships out of HS because of injur

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 5:59pm

I understand Coachspeak's point that the coaches should offer players

donnerstag

8/21/19 6:07pm

Just because they’re starters doesn’t mean

I'mBatman

8/22/19 5:01pm

They might be thrown into the fire early and will have some learning to do as

puntersarepeople

8/22/19 5:08pm

Rivals rated a PWO as our fifth best guy or something like that

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 4:05pm

I gave you 247 too, because I know how you guys feel about Rivals.

displacedute

8/21/19 4:28pm

It's not a dramatic drop off on 247

donnerstag

8/21/19 4:40pm

Your average for the 5 years before 2018 was 62

displacedute

8/21/19 4:57pm

But again, the formula for computing class ranking is based on class size

donnerstag

8/21/19 5:06pm

Here's the offer list of the key players on offense

donnerstag

8/21/19 3:36pm

RE: Here's the offer list of the key players on offense

SWMOute

8/21/19 4:47pm

What I see from that list is that BYU has the higher recruited QB, RB, TE, and

donnerstag

8/21/19 4:52pm

RE: What I see from that list is that BYU has the higher recruited QB, RB, TE,

SWMOute

8/21/19 5:10pm

I am quite sure that's how Bartoo reached his conclusions too

donnerstag

8/21/19 5:23pm

Completely agree with you

SWMOute

8/21/19 5:34pm

Depth is the biggest gap. I think our best 22 stack up with their best 22

Garn

8/21/19 3:38pm

People repeat that, but it’s so far from true

CallingDingo

8/21/19 3:49pm

Okay, then what is true?

BYUCougarsFan

8/21/19 3:58pm

I don't think their ones are comparable if they are winning recruiting and

Upanddown

8/21/19 4:23pm

Ummm no.Their talent is better, cmon bro. No Yewt here but anyone who has seen

Swishfromdeep3

8/21/19 6:35pm

And its 100% correct.

Backcountry

8/21/19 4:00pm

RE: And its 100% correct.

TPcoug

8/21/19 5:03pm

It's true BYUs recruiting class have been declining since independence

Upanddown

8/21/19 4:19pm

Get back to your honeymoon

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 4:30pm

12 posts from him so far today, 19 yesterday. That must be quite the honeymoon.

Sock Gnome

8/21/19 4:33pm

I’m sure he’s locked out of the room...

CoachSpeak

8/21/19 5:03pm

Living up to his board name.

BYUTE59

8/21/19 6:56pm

Dave Bartoo relies completely on team recruiting rankings. He provides nothing

Bostonblue

8/21/19 4:51pm

Go Cougars! Beat Utah!!

SportsRoad

8/21/19 4:58pm

Sounds like something USC, UCLA, Oregon etc... could say about Utah

1-Wing RCAF

8/21/19 5:10pm

There is a huge disconnect with Ute fans on that reality...

CoachSpeak

8/21/19 5:13pm

RE: There is a huge disconnect with Ute fans on that reality...

NotTokolosh

8/21/19 5:44pm

Not that big of a gap between BYU and Utah

1-Wing RCAF

8/21/19 6:50pm

Every year, BYU gets a lot of transfers from P5 schools...

Richbyu

8/21/19 5:57pm

Offensive Line Starters (all transfers)--Empy, Hoge, LaChance

Richbyu

8/21/19 6:01pm

Maybe our two best o linemen

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 6:04pm

Exactly. BYU is always going to benefit from LDS transfers to BYU.

Richbyu

8/21/19 6:05pm

D-Line Starters (transfers) — Khyiris Tonga

Richbyu

8/21/19 6:04pm

He shows up

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 6:13pm

What does this say about Utah?

deliciousmocha

8/21/19 6:17pm

Nailed it.

BleedCougarBlue2

8/21/19 8:24pm

I don't know...

Heath Squashwell

8/21/19 6:56pm

With the gap being so big you would assume the score would be very big, at least

SUAVO

8/21/19 7:39pm

Then if the Utes are so freaking awesome, and BYU so horrible, then why....

BleedCougarBlue2

8/21/19 8:29pm

It’s naive to assume it will get better. BYU is trending up in the recruiting wo

puntersarepeople

8/21/19 8:54pm

RE: It’s naive to assume it will get better. BYU is trending up in the

SWMOute

8/21/19 11:04pm

BYU has a legitimate shot with a couple pretty good prospects

puntersarepeople

8/22/19 2:44pm

And yet almost every game comes down to just a single score to decide the winner

GangstaLean

8/22/19 1:00am

And yet the line is only 4.5 points....

BamaCoug

8/22/19 4:23am

RE: And yet the line is only 4.5 points....

displacedute

8/22/19 9:50am

RE: This is some serious locker room fodder for BYU

JECougar

8/22/19 4:35pm

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