Winning solves a lot of ills. But not all of this can be thrown at Indy.

Feb 5, 2020
12:25:09pm

StalwartBraveTrue All-American

There’s a lot more going on here than is easily parsed into a single difference between schools and schedules.

Gotta win more to get more. Somewhere along the line there needs to be a breakthrough.

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With 2020 Recruiting class wrapping up, here's how BYU fared vs G5's -

Klompus

2/5/20 10:41am

I feel like a bunch of our recruits are under-recruited

BlueVU

2/5/20 10:43am

Every fanbase feels this way to some extent. If I hop on a Houston board, I'll

Klompus

2/5/20 10:49am

Of course you do.

coolblue

2/5/20 2:27pm

you are not wrong

Beetdiggercoug

2/5/20 5:30pm

What is your solution? This is an honest question.

ReyOso

2/5/20 10:53am

Oh I guess you do not know Klompus -he wants to join a G5 conference and reduce

cwilke1

2/5/20 11:01am

It's not the worst idea in the world, although there are obvious drawbacks.

ReyOso

2/5/20 11:05am

BYU in the MWC would improve the MWC, but its far from certain that that

cwilke1

2/5/20 11:06am

You might be right, it's hard to say.

ReyOso

2/5/20 11:10am

The AAC is better than the MWC in every metric and has been for years.

Klompus

2/5/20 11:11am

Post-BYU reentering and BYU strengthening its program, would it still be?

ReyOso

2/5/20 11:56am

There is a pretty significat gap. Consider that the AAC West was rated higher

Klompus

2/5/20 12:08pm

Transfer portal might help move talent from the top schools.

ManicBlue

2/5/20 11:53am

Klompus squeezing his G5 agenda into any post

Lip Gallagher

2/5/20 11:02am

And your argument against the number facts and numbers? BYU is in the worst spot

Klompus

2/5/20 11:13am

No one cares who wins the AAC. Or MWC. Sorry, but it's true.

Turnpike Lane

2/5/20 11:25am

Apparently kids do who decided to go to Cinci, UCF, and Boise (all ranked better than us).

TheLoneCougar

2/5/20 11:35am

haha! This.

Klompus

2/5/20 11:59am

Did you ask them if that is why they chose bad schools

travelcoug

2/5/20 5:10pm

I certainly did not, it isn't about the school but the football program.

TheLoneCougar

2/6/20 8:25am

No one cares who wins the PAC12. It does not mean much.

RealityCheck

2/5/20 9:09pm

and playing the toughest schedules we've ever played too. We just have to be

ManicBlue

2/5/20 11:57am

The only way that I can ever see us doing the things you mentioned is by a huge

BYUlv

2/5/20 4:05pm

RE: The only way that I can ever see us doing the things you mentioned is by a

ManicBlue

2/5/20 4:11pm

I certainly wasn't suggesting that paying more money has made Bronco's staff

BYUlv

2/5/20 4:34pm

RE: I certainly wasn't suggesting that paying more money has made Bronco's staff

ManicBlue

2/5/20 4:43pm

I agree with much of your assessment, particularly with the DC and S&C. I even

BYUlv

2/5/20 5:26pm

I'm encouraged by the improvement the offense made this year from the previous

ManicBlue

2/5/20 5:47pm

I hope your optimism about the offense is rewarded. I would love to see this

BYUlv

2/5/20 6:21pm

I counted 16 G5 teams with a better win-loss record last season than BYU but

cwilke1

2/5/20 11:04am

Where I will agree with you -

Klompus

2/5/20 11:17am

I wish people would forget joining the AAC. It's NOT a good option.

ManicBlue

2/5/20 11:37am

You keep saying that. Yet BYU almost joined the AAC. You know better?

JadedCougar

2/5/20 1:14pm

As a football only member, it could be remotely possible IF a bunch of other

ManicBlue

2/5/20 1:35pm

Well...the BCS existed for 16 years, 13 of those we were in the MWC and we never

SWP

2/5/20 1:22pm

You must be kidding.

Klompus

2/5/20 1:33pm

Well, BYU did go 60 years in a conference without winning a NC

StalwartBraveTrue

2/6/20 9:10am

Ha ha ha ha ha, well done

SWP

2/6/20 3:27pm

Most of that "bad luck" is self-inflicted wounds.

ReyOso

2/6/20 5:15pm

Whether self-inflicted or not, moving to G5 won't make it better.

SWP

2/6/20 6:05pm

Well that just defunct the entire OP

ColonelMustard

2/5/20 3:28pm

C'mon ... of those rankings the only one that stands out is Cincy. The rest are

ManicBlue

2/5/20 11:36am

BSU has passed up BYU in terms of recruiting. Honor Code and academic standards need to be taken into account.

TheLoneCougar

2/5/20 11:38am

The thing is - BYU is recruiting this “well” despite mediocre/poor seasons.

sunjieming

2/5/20 12:22pm

average of around 80 is "well". You and I have very difference expectations.

Klompus

2/5/20 12:29pm

It’s absolutely poor but it would be way worse with a 5-loss season in G5 imo

sunjieming

2/5/20 12:46pm

Winning solves a lot of ills. But not all of this can be thrown at Indy.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/5/20 12:25pm

Rivals has BYU ahead of Boise

IndepYndent

2/5/20 12:42pm

". . . out of the G5 group." Watch the language. 😉

AZcougLawyer

2/5/20 1:32pm

What were BYU's recruiting rankings the five years before indy? I realize

mrphotogenic

2/5/20 2:09pm

Sad thing the year Heaps signed ... 3 of our top 4 recruits didn't pan out

ManicBlue

2/5/20 2:30pm

For sure. But haven't BYU's recruiting rankings been about the same since

mrphotogenic

2/5/20 2:32pm

not really but it'd be really interesting to rank the classes in retrospect

ManicBlue

2/5/20 2:35pm

You're being too generous. We were only 79th

kooogar

2/5/20 2:43pm

Hate to break it to you, but Cincy went 4-8 in back to back years in 2016 and 2017

slatecoug

2/5/20 2:50pm

What’s our ranking based on average star ranking rather than overall?

D.T. Survivor

2/5/20 3:06pm

89th right now. Shows us at 75 with 14 G5 schools

kooogar

2/5/20 3:11pm

Ouch! How does that compare to previous years?

D.T. Survivor

2/5/20 3:16pm

That implies BYU's coaching is above average, apart from recruiting.

ReyOso

2/5/20 3:42pm

we are actually behind 22 G5 schools, some are ranked higher than 75

kooogar

2/5/20 5:43pm

The subjective difference between 65 and 72 is the dumbest thing in the world to

YbeatsU

2/5/20 3:49pm

Two words: Honor. Code.

jkccoug

2/5/20 4:00pm

did we not have an honor code from 2006 to 2010, when our #'s were much better?

Klompus

2/5/20 4:43pm

We did not have both an Honor Code and Utah in the P12. My comment was referring

jkccoug

2/5/20 4:51pm

Winning is part of it

Hutch65

2/5/20 4:51pm

We used to win most of the LDS recruiting battles vs UT. Now the Utes do.

HootnHoller

2/5/20 5:52pm

iNdEpEnCe iS mOrE bEtTeR bEcAuSe wE gEt $ & eXpOsUrE

Big McLargeHuge

2/5/20 9:39pm

Where do you suppose BYU would be ranked if it was in a conference?

GatorCoug

2/5/20 9:54pm

What a nutty board! I'll grant that Cincy at 47 did better...but so many of you

Jasbo

2/6/20 12:37am

Actually, it's worse than that...the most current ranking put's them at 78

Jasbo

2/6/20 12:53am

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