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Mar 31, 2020
9:30:39am

JmThms Truly Addicted User

All good, except strangely stats show reduced deaths in economic recessions.

I know this because I looked it up and found articles on it. I was expecting the opposite intending to strengthen my argument that there is a balance between two evils to be had.

I still believe in the economic harm/mortality harm balance though. After all, I do get in my car and drive every day.

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JmThms

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Stop comparing CV-19 with the flu and other forms of death. They’re not

homegrown

3/31/20 8:29am

Good luck

Blueto

3/31/20 8:36am

I'm growing concerned at the level of critical thinking of supposed BYU grads

ryebrye

3/31/20 8:39am

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Cougazul

3/31/20 8:42am

That's been going on a long time.

SoCalCoug

3/31/20 9:25am

Of course it'll be compared to the flu.

3/31/20 8:41am

The fact that daily coronavirus deaths exceed flu deaths right now will be...

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:06am

Agree with most of that but younger people being hospitalized seems to be a huge

3/31/20 8:43am

If this were hitting kids it would be a whole different situation.

3/31/20 8:44am

One reason why the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was so significant.

BlueBlood94

3/31/20 9:57am

"I had a little bird, it's name was Enza I opened the window and in flew Enza"

JmThms

3/31/20 10:13am

40% of US coronavirus hospitalizations are for people under 55 per the CDC

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:10am

They're outliers, but not huge outliers

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:27am

Seeing the stress of the small earthquake in Salt Lake, we should be praying

Q-grr

3/31/20 8:44am

Glad you're willing to sacrifice your livelihood on the altar of stopping COVID

delux_247

3/31/20 8:45am

Come back to this in a few months.. and look at Brazil/Mexico. two countries

flyzag

3/31/20 8:47am

And South Korea!!!

Pick-Six Coug

3/31/20 9:58am

You mean the country that had aggressive testing, tracking, and quarantining.

ironman1315

3/31/20 10:16am

We didn't have every opportunity to mirror SK, but we sure fell flat.

3/31/20 10:32am

Some prefer we don’t remove this from context. If the only

gwalker

3/31/20 8:51am

Good thoughts.

coolblue

3/31/20 8:53am

Furthermore, I find your attempt to speak for the prophet a bit

gwalker

3/31/20 8:55am

Amen to that!

Northwest Cougar

3/31/20 9:01am

I actually disagree with you here

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:29am

The "why" he made the decision is what people have jumped to conclusions about.

gwalker

3/31/20 9:36am

Ah understood, that makes sense.

Resurgens

3/31/20 12:06pm

Well said!

3/31/20 8:56am

plus we don't track any other deaths on a daily basis so we aren't used to that

Scooter

3/31/20 9:21am

All good, except strangely stats show reduced deaths in economic recessions.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:30am

Issue is that people comparing it to the flu aren't also contrasting it with flu

Bandersnatch

3/31/20 10:18am

Then he can add that context instead of saying, "Stop talking about it!"

gwalker

3/31/20 10:29am

in many ways it's a good comparison.

Belboz

3/31/20 8:55am

In other ways it's not

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:13am

sure. I can also compare a truck and a sedan. They're similar in so many ways.

Belboz

3/31/20 9:23am

People do get hurt from comparisons to the flu and coronavirus, though

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:39am

sure, it may be more deadly but comparing them like I did doesn't hurt.

Belboz

3/31/20 9:46am

Responsible comparisons put them in context

Sumguy

3/31/20 10:35am

So your issue isn't necessarily all comparisons, but rather a certain type.

Belboz

3/31/20 10:56am

Comparing Covid19 to the flu is how scientists claim to be experts. Also...

ldssdl

3/31/20 8:56am

Let's Ban Big Gulps and Cookies ... Obesity clogs the Health Care system too!

Xenon

3/31/20 8:57am

RE: Let's Ban Big Gulps and Cookies ... Obesity clogs the Health Care system

ironman1315

3/31/20 8:58am

It's just that per unit of time they don't threaten overwhelming ICU resources.

JmThms

3/31/20 8:59am

I know everyone is a little testy right now, but let's leave cookies out of this

ochobeeguy

3/31/20 9:16am

Especially oatmeal raisin.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:25am

Oatmeal raisin cookies are the skim milk of cookies.

ironman1315

3/31/20 9:44am

Viva la diff.......whatever.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:52am

Wait, so you're saying we're trying to flatten the curve? Why didn't someone

Northwest Cougar

3/31/20 8:59am

Majority of hospitals right now are not overwhelmed

JOPE

3/31/20 9:07am

Source?

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:14am

Several doctor friends have said as much.

3/31/20 9:20am

I highly doubt it's going to stay that way

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:24am

Probably. I still hope we started social distancing in time.

3/31/20 10:34am

2 States are over. 10 are projected to get close or go over.

ochobeeguy

3/31/20 10:52am

THIS^ Hospitals in my state are near empty and they are laying off nurses

dazcoug

3/31/20 10:46am

Why complain? This is literally the best case scenario for the coronavirus

Sumguy

3/31/20 10:53am

There is a legitimate moral dilemma with good arguments on both sides.

Josef K

3/31/20 9:14am

war-time-like effort to increase healthcare equipment, labor force, and capacity

Doogal McCougar

3/31/20 9:46am

I think proving that the hospitals won't get overwhelmed is the answer.

Josef K

3/31/20 11:11am

So a bad Flu season isn't capable of overwhelming our hospitals?

SnickSnack

3/31/20 9:50am

I believe critical flu patients don't need ICU ventilators for 2-3+ weeks.

Doogal McCougar

3/31/20 9:53am

Are you really suggesting it's not ok to give perspective to all of this? There

dazcoug

3/31/20 10:00am

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