Why complain? This is literally the best case scenario for the coronavirus

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Mar 31, 2020
10:53:16am

Sumguy Project

Why complain? This is literally the best case scenario for the coronavirus

Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after a pandemic will seem inadequate. This is the dilemma we face, but it should not stop us from doing what we can to prepare. We need to reach out to everyone with words that inform, but not inflame. We need to encourage everyone to prepare, but not panic.

Michael O. Leavitt, 2007

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Sumguy

Bio page: Sumguy
Joined: Sep 8, 2014
Last login: Oct 19, 2020
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Stop comparing CV-19 with the flu and other forms of death. They’re not

homegrown

3/31/20 8:29am

Good luck

Blueto

3/31/20 8:36am

I'm growing concerned at the level of critical thinking of supposed BYU grads

ryebrye

3/31/20 8:39am

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Cougazul

3/31/20 8:42am

That's been going on a long time.

SoCalCoug

3/31/20 9:25am

Of course it'll be compared to the flu.

3/31/20 8:41am

The fact that daily coronavirus deaths exceed flu deaths right now will be...

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:06am

Agree with most of that but younger people being hospitalized seems to be a huge

3/31/20 8:43am

If this were hitting kids it would be a whole different situation.

3/31/20 8:44am

One reason why the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was so significant.

BlueBlood94

3/31/20 9:57am

"I had a little bird, it's name was Enza I opened the window and in flew Enza"

JmThms

3/31/20 10:13am

40% of US coronavirus hospitalizations are for people under 55 per the CDC

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:10am

They're outliers, but not huge outliers

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:27am

Seeing the stress of the small earthquake in Salt Lake, we should be praying

Q-grr

3/31/20 8:44am

Glad you're willing to sacrifice your livelihood on the altar of stopping COVID

delux_247

3/31/20 8:45am

Come back to this in a few months.. and look at Brazil/Mexico. two countries

flyzag

3/31/20 8:47am

And South Korea!!!

Pick-Six Coug

3/31/20 9:58am

You mean the country that had aggressive testing, tracking, and quarantining.

ironman1315

3/31/20 10:16am

We didn't have every opportunity to mirror SK, but we sure fell flat.

3/31/20 10:32am

Some prefer we don’t remove this from context. If the only

gwalker

3/31/20 8:51am

Good thoughts.

coolblue

3/31/20 8:53am

Furthermore, I find your attempt to speak for the prophet a bit

gwalker

3/31/20 8:55am

Amen to that!

Northwest Cougar

3/31/20 9:01am

I actually disagree with you here

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:29am

The "why" he made the decision is what people have jumped to conclusions about.

gwalker

3/31/20 9:36am

Ah understood, that makes sense.

Resurgens

3/31/20 12:06pm

Well said!

3/31/20 8:56am

plus we don't track any other deaths on a daily basis so we aren't used to that

Scooter

3/31/20 9:21am

All good, except strangely stats show reduced deaths in economic recessions.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:30am

Issue is that people comparing it to the flu aren't also contrasting it with flu

Bandersnatch

3/31/20 10:18am

Then he can add that context instead of saying, "Stop talking about it!"

gwalker

3/31/20 10:29am

in many ways it's a good comparison.

Belboz

3/31/20 8:55am

In other ways it's not

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:13am

sure. I can also compare a truck and a sedan. They're similar in so many ways.

Belboz

3/31/20 9:23am

People do get hurt from comparisons to the flu and coronavirus, though

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:39am

sure, it may be more deadly but comparing them like I did doesn't hurt.

Belboz

3/31/20 9:46am

Responsible comparisons put them in context

Sumguy

3/31/20 10:35am

So your issue isn't necessarily all comparisons, but rather a certain type.

Belboz

3/31/20 10:56am

Comparing Covid19 to the flu is how scientists claim to be experts. Also...

ldssdl

3/31/20 8:56am

Let's Ban Big Gulps and Cookies ... Obesity clogs the Health Care system too!

Xenon

3/31/20 8:57am

RE: Let's Ban Big Gulps and Cookies ... Obesity clogs the Health Care system

ironman1315

3/31/20 8:58am

It's just that per unit of time they don't threaten overwhelming ICU resources.

JmThms

3/31/20 8:59am

I know everyone is a little testy right now, but let's leave cookies out of this

ochobeeguy

3/31/20 9:16am

Especially oatmeal raisin.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:25am

Oatmeal raisin cookies are the skim milk of cookies.

ironman1315

3/31/20 9:44am

Viva la diff.......whatever.

JmThms

3/31/20 9:52am

Wait, so you're saying we're trying to flatten the curve? Why didn't someone

Northwest Cougar

3/31/20 8:59am

Majority of hospitals right now are not overwhelmed

JOPE

3/31/20 9:07am

Source?

Sumguy

3/31/20 9:14am

Several doctor friends have said as much.

3/31/20 9:20am

I highly doubt it's going to stay that way

Resurgens

3/31/20 9:24am

Probably. I still hope we started social distancing in time.

3/31/20 10:34am

2 States are over. 10 are projected to get close or go over.

ochobeeguy

3/31/20 10:52am

THIS^ Hospitals in my state are near empty and they are laying off nurses

dazcoug

3/31/20 10:46am

Why complain? This is literally the best case scenario for the coronavirus

Sumguy

3/31/20 10:53am

There is a legitimate moral dilemma with good arguments on both sides.

Josef K

3/31/20 9:14am

war-time-like effort to increase healthcare equipment, labor force, and capacity

Doogal McCougar

3/31/20 9:46am

I think proving that the hospitals won't get overwhelmed is the answer.

Josef K

3/31/20 11:11am

So a bad Flu season isn't capable of overwhelming our hospitals?

SnickSnack

3/31/20 9:50am

I believe critical flu patients don't need ICU ventilators for 2-3+ weeks.

Doogal McCougar

3/31/20 9:53am

Are you really suggesting it's not ok to give perspective to all of this? There

dazcoug

3/31/20 10:00am

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