I’ve thought a lot about the loss of sense of community and single family

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Apr 12, 2021
8:25:40pm

StalwartBraveTrue All-American

I’ve thought a lot about the loss of sense of community and single family

Housing has never made my list. There are a lot of things I believe are more responsible for the destruction of our sense of community and the ties it brings to our neighborhoods.

I realize I’m biased by my upbringing in a single family home neighborhood so perhaps you have a different definition than I do. I think technology is the primary culprit. By expanding our view to be more global it diminishes the role of the local. Not sure if that’s an overall positive or negative.

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StalwartBraveTrue

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Time

Housing Affordability Solution

BigBlue04

4/12/21 11:30am

Nah. Best solution for housing crunch is kill half the people. #thanoswasright

StalwartBraveTrue

4/12/21 11:32am

This sounds like something Skip Bayless would say if he started giving real

WhirleyPop

4/12/21 11:34am

So if someone wants to rent a single-family home you want the government to tell them they can't.

Sea Chicken

4/12/21 11:34am

Where will renters live?

CBaass

4/12/21 11:35am

I think he was hinting that if there was no rentals then houses would be cheap

4/12/21 10:00pm

Ownership of real estate his heavily subsidized through favorable tax treatment

Mrs Featerbottom

4/12/21 11:36am

Interest deduction on single-family residence and depreciation on rental homes.

grandpacoug

4/12/21 11:48am

Actually most of the subsidies were done away with under the Trump tax cuts

Nat Gas Man

4/12/21 11:56am

Correct. I keep forgetting about you guys in hi value homes & loans. F&C is good

grandpacoug

4/12/21 1:32pm

You know a lot of people rent because they can't or don't want to buy right?

cracka

4/12/21 11:36am

They cant buy because too few SFHs are on the market for sale due to “investors”

valleus

4/12/21 11:43am

What percentage of homes are rentals?

Mems

4/12/21 11:44am

Thank the stimulus: $6T of money finding a home.

byujdmba

4/12/21 11:55am

Or they can't buy because they have bad credit, etc.

cracka

4/12/21 12:00pm

Some. Many others can’t buy because no one will lend them several hundred

4/12/21 12:36pm

We grew up fairly poor. I lived in 23 different apartments before I graduated HS

Superman21

4/12/21 4:20pm

Bad take comrade

CougCoug3

4/12/21 11:37am

Renting out single-family homes to singles is killing young couples.

runnincoug

4/12/21 11:37am

like almost every social engineering idea this one comes with countless

MormonThug

4/12/21 11:39am

inflation is a runaway train pushed by the most powerful entities in the world.

MormonThug

4/12/21 11:41am

By far the best solution. Investment should be in companies, not houses. Greedy

valleus

4/12/21 11:42am

So you have to live in an apartment unless you want to buy a house?

Mems

4/12/21 11:43am

No, but we shouldn’t subsidize owners renting out their SFHs.

valleus

4/12/21 11:45am

So where do they live if homes can't be rented?

Mems

4/12/21 11:45am

:

valleus

4/12/21 11:54am

I can't discuss it if you can't make a coherent point

Mems

4/12/21 12:00pm

How are we subsidizing rental owners?

Cougforgood

4/12/21 11:50am

They have a need to raise taxes on everybody.

CougCoug3

4/12/21 2:02pm

so then the only renting solution would be apartments instead of homes?

LeonMarek

4/12/21 11:42am

Terrible idea.

WDaddy

4/12/21 11:43am

This may be the worst idea I've ever heard.

CocaColaRecovery

4/12/21 11:46am

I guess we should get rid of banks as well

Cougforgood

4/12/21 11:48am

We should probably outlaw the ability to make profit on any product, rich guys

BYUFootballisBack

4/12/21 11:54am

Uh, No.

UVCoug

4/12/21 11:49am

I'm afraid this thinking brings socialism even closer than I was worried about!!

grandpacoug

4/12/21 11:50am

why do you want to rob from people their ability to rent a home? don't people deserve the right to rent if renting

HarlemCoug

4/12/21 11:51am

If individuals can't own rental property that leaves corporations and government

byujdmba

4/12/21 11:51am

Doesn't the tax code already distinguish between primary residences and rentals?

4/12/21 11:59am

Yes, it does. And while some things, like depreciation, are definite advantages

4/12/21 1:03pm

unless you die. but they are going after that now too

Cougforgood

4/12/21 2:48pm

People like this are why cost of living/homeless keep going up in Blue cities

novacoug1

4/12/21 12:01pm

I’ll just say making money on RE is not free as you suggest.

StalwartBraveTrue

4/12/21 12:12pm

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novacoug1

4/12/21 12:17pm

RE: People like this are why cost of living/homeless keep going up in Blue

bassiley

4/12/21 3:30pm

I would rather have him at my parties than those that feel entitled to my

CougCoug3

4/12/21 3:52pm

Lolol "hey man why can't everything just be free man - free drinks on the house"

novacoug1

4/12/21 4:07pm

Crazy, so instead of putting money into the ponzi 401k system we have invested in houses. We are up to 3 rentals and

EternalOptimism

4/12/21 12:19pm

So many anticipatable problems with this and likely many that can't be.

CougaRR4L

4/12/21 12:26pm

What if they just want to rent? or cant afford the down payment?

BYU Grounds

4/12/21 12:32pm

There isn’t a housing shortage when you take away all the 2nd homes and Airbnb

Nat Gas Man

4/12/21 12:38pm

Looking to buy my first home in Utah. Investors have purchased the

McGreevey

4/12/21 12:51pm

How do you know they were investors? I know very few buying right now and if the

johnnybyu

4/12/21 1:12pm

The only investors I can see right now throwing that kind of money are either

Nat Gas Man

4/12/21 1:17pm

Agreed certainly not mom and pop landlords that most of this thread is describin

johnnybyu

4/12/21 1:21pm

Our agent told us. He also said he's seen more and more investors buying houses

McGreevey

4/12/21 1:27pm

Interesting maybe there are more institutional investors coming into the market.

johnnybyu

4/12/21 1:29pm

Bring more money to the table.

CougCoug3

4/12/21 2:04pm

We should have a selection committee that determines who gets to live where

Doogal McCougar

4/12/21 12:55pm

In 2012 my wife and I saved money to purchase a SFH rental in a depressed

4/12/21 1:07pm

"But I'm not actually contributing anything productive to society"

4/12/21 1:08pm

So much for family reunions who prefer to spend a week away under one roof.

roseyscenario

4/12/21 2:02pm

My two cents.

WarBYU

4/12/21 3:41pm

Put this right in the column of terrible ideas that will cause there to be a

Gente_Boa

4/12/21 4:06pm

Private property is a foundational principle of our democracy. You can go buy

Iman23

4/12/21 4:18pm

The real solution to the issue that folks on CB won't like is ending the

4/12/21 6:07pm

Yay for density!!! Put that 8 plex next to my house. How awesome is that?

Iman23

4/12/21 6:44pm

Why do you care if there's an 8-plex next door? Worried the people that live

4/13/21 1:03pm

The house value would take a big hit and appreciate much less over time.

grandpacoug

4/13/21 2:03pm

No evidence to support this. And in fact, the most densely populated areas in our country have the highest values.

HarlemCoug

4/13/21 2:48pm

I’ve thought a lot about the loss of sense of community and single family

StalwartBraveTrue

4/12/21 8:25pm

There are many factors. I grew up in the suburban sprawl too. But local

4/13/21 1:02pm

Not to argue but I don't know how you are coming up with your conclusions.

CougaRR4L

4/13/21 3:11pm

Welcome to the new Utah. Unless you got rich parents or you win the lottery

Cosmo4life

4/12/21 6:35pm

This is where patience wins the day...I remember looking for a home in the 2006

delbert

4/12/21 8:52pm

this one appears different to me. The last one was engineered by mortgage

MormonThug

4/12/21 8:59pm

I agree with you. I don’t see an end to this anytime soon. I had to bite the

Cosmo4life

4/12/21 9:03pm

It could be different, the biggest difference I see is that the government is

delbert

4/12/21 10:09pm

Just sayin...

SolidBlue

4/12/21 9:19pm

Perhaps a limit of sorts.

ditch

4/13/21 8:22am

Disagree completely. 5 home limit was tried once before (on loans). Not so good.

grandpacoug

4/13/21 8:48am

Isn’t there still a mortgage limit of 10

Nat Gas Man

4/13/21 9:09am

Haven't received loan in long time. Had 12 flip sales fall out when went to 5.

grandpacoug

4/13/21 9:19am

I’ll still take the invisible hand

StalwartBraveTrue

4/13/21 9:43am

^^^Needs to read Ayn Rand^^^

HenderCoug

4/13/21 3:08pm

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