UCF is 13 of 55 against P5 teams. That's 24% over their existence.

May 16, 2021
1:16:43pm

byusage All-American

Cinci from 2011 to 2020 were 11 of 22 for 50%

BYU was 17 of 44 for 38%

Look at the P5 opponents. BYU played the upper echelon of P5 teams. UCF and Cinci played for the large part the lower echelon of P5 teams.

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It would be such a laughably bad decision to move back to a G5 conference.

LaVellIfIKnow

5/15/21 2:45pm

RE: It would be such a laughably bad decision to move back to a G5 conference.

LiveCoug

5/15/21 2:49pm

You are totally correct.

Snipe

5/15/21 2:49pm

Today, that’s true. If a g5 champ gets an autobid to an expanded playoff,

Coog4Life

5/15/21 2:50pm

Only yewts think BYU going to a g5 is a good idea

DrYfire

5/15/21 4:17pm

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Rise Against

5/15/21 7:19pm

I get your point, but remember that after 1 loss it's a crap bowl.

delete_king

5/15/21 6:37pm

Quick - without looking it up, what bowl did Memphis play in this year? Did they win or lose?

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 7:03pm

Quick!!! The point is that the CC will be in a NY6 bowl, 90%. 10% BSU factor.

delete_king

5/15/21 8:00pm

And?

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:11pm

And ask an ACC fan what bowl game #11 BYU went to last year

BYU Fan

5/15/21 11:39pm

Is an ACC fan like a Pac12 fan? Because all of the Pac12 stickers I've seen

DeekLyfter

5/16/21 12:10am

Unlike now? Uh, NO.

Snipe

5/15/21 7:04pm

Nobody cares about bowls anymore outside of the playoff. And we saw last season

LaVellIfIKnow

5/15/21 7:08pm

No you don't care, I care and all the CBers crying that BYU didn't get a NY6

delete_king

5/15/21 8:03pm

I care about BYU playing better schedules and not mortgaging their future

LiveCoug

5/15/21 8:06pm

Proud of you! I don't think UCF, Memphis, Cincy, Navy, Houston, are hurting. I'd

delete_king

5/15/21 8:38pm

Your opinion is very disappointing and I'm sad that there are BYU fans that

LiveCoug

5/15/21 8:48pm

I'm disappointed that you don't want the highest possible non-P5

delete_king

5/15/21 9:15pm

Hopefully (and it certainly seems to be the case), the AD sees things differentl

LiveCoug

5/15/21 9:19pm

If money is what we are playing for, maybe. I'm guessing UCF is doing okay :).

delete_king

5/15/21 9:30pm

I hate the idea that BYUs goal in football is money & not winning or relevance

BYU Fan

5/15/21 11:43pm

Watch UCF and Cincy get the P5 invite while BYU doesn't. This is the same thing

CheeseburgerEddie

5/15/21 9:30pm

Probably likely! Cincy and UCF are the sexy teams now. UCF has amazing

delete_king

5/15/21 9:36pm

And it is purely due to their geographic location that they may be invited...

CougarThug

5/16/21 12:32am

I don't think that's the ONLY reason they have advantage, but it's a huge one

krindorr

5/16/21 7:47am

I had to come back to this after looking at BYU's schedule 2022-2025.

delete_king

5/22/21 9:48am

Who do you think we could play in NY6 bowl, Texas? Maybe USC? Nebraska?

Jacksonian76

5/15/21 10:49pm

Or maybe someone like Virginia. Or Baylor. Or Michigan St.

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 11:00pm

Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Baylor, Penn State have been AAC NY6 opponents

krindorr

5/16/21 8:08am

There is a big difference in playing Neb, Tex, USC, Utah during the season

delete_king

5/16/21 9:35am

Did you just put Utah on the same level as Nebreaska, USC, and Texas?

Jacksonian76

5/23/21 10:07pm

So wrong. In which bowl game did the MWC champ from last season play?

Rise Against

5/15/21 7:20pm

Read better! I said the AAC champ. The AAC is borderline P5 the MWC is a Joke.

delete_king

5/15/21 8:05pm

Hold on, you do realize that we beat Houston, and beat UCF in the bowl game, right? I fail to see your love affair with

Rise Against

5/15/21 8:23pm

If you remember we were very mediocre for the last 12 years.

delete_king

5/15/21 9:41pm

Hahahahaha! You're saying we've been mediocre for the past 12 years? You do realize that UCF went 0-12 in 2015?

Rise Against

5/15/21 9:53pm

Low hanging fruit... I'm talking AAC and AAC only. The only real

delete_king

5/16/21 9:38am

One game??? You want to trade 4-5 P5 games for a chance to take one shot at a

byusage

5/15/21 7:57pm

You can have 3 or 4 P5 games in the AAC and play Cincy, Memphis, UCF, Navy, SMU,

delete_king

5/15/21 8:07pm

You cannot. No G5 team has ever played more than 3 P5 teams in a season. And 3 P5 games have only happened a few times

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:12pm

Also, 6-8 P5s should be the goal

LiveCoug

5/15/21 8:13pm

And it took us a while to get there but the independence schedules are there now and on a clear upward trajectory. They

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:14pm

My point is that you can play 12 P5 teams every year. It will get you nothing.

delete_king

5/15/21 8:22pm

The only thing that would change in the AAC is less money, less exposure, and fewer big games every year. Just a flat

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:28pm

Not sure it's an upward trajectory so much as an ebb/flow; 2022-2024 we play 3-5

krindorr

5/15/21 8:29pm

Yup. got some bad years coming. Need to improve

LiveCoug

5/15/21 8:31pm

5 P5 games is great. 4 is more than any G5 team has ever played. We’ll see what happens to the schedules after 2023

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:33pm

4 P5 games and games like Utah St, Dixie, and Idaho st is a weaker SOS than most

delete_king

5/15/21 9:26pm

Again, you do realize that we beat 3 of the better AAC teams last year alone, right? Including your beloved UCF.

Rise Against

5/15/21 9:29pm

We did and that is great. It took a freak year with once in 20 year QB.

delete_king

5/15/21 9:44pm

And we were still ranked behind their champion

BYU Fan

5/15/21 11:51pm

Yup we were ranked behind their champion who ducked the opportunity to play us.

CougarThug

5/16/21 12:38am

Not practical so long as we keep doing the 2 fer 1 and and singles.

CougarThug

5/16/21 12:41am

This is the big thing

krindorr

5/16/21 7:34pm

It's up the to the AD, right? We are suppose to have the super scheduler AD.

delete_king

5/15/21 8:13pm

No. It’s up to the other teams’ ADs and their open dates. It’s just not feasible for a G5 team to a) create that much

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:16pm

You're right, great exhibition schedule. At best 7/8 wins, no ranking, bad bowl.

delete_king

5/15/21 8:29pm

A bowl game is literally an exhibition game. The bowl game does not matter.

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:31pm

That is a good denial statement. The only fans in America that would say, NY6

delete_king

5/15/21 8:47pm

Most fans think they don’t matter. They’re exhibition games by their very definition

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 8:48pm

That is so funny!!!! It's amazing how may people watch NY6 games. The weeks of

delete_king

5/15/21 8:56pm

Yeah. Lots of people watch exhibition games.

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 9:05pm

So, you're saying nobody watches BYU games. Make up your mind!

delete_king

5/15/21 9:18pm

Uh. Wut?

YIsForBrigham

5/15/21 9:22pm

RE: That is a good denial statement. The only fans in America that would say,

DeekLyfter

5/16/21 12:19am

It was fun watching a talented team. That team (especially the offense)

byusage

5/15/21 8:52pm

Okay, It is funny that all the other INDY seasons while playing P5 teams went

delete_king

5/15/21 9:02pm

Here's some statistics for you: BYU's win percentage by conference and

byusage

5/15/21 10:51pm

All true statements. My argument is, in the AAC you can have a

delete_king

5/16/21 9:31am

This is what bothers me, you hold up the AAC as this ideal conference and you keep referencing the SOS with teams like

Rise Against

5/16/21 9:47am

In the independence era we win 39% against P5, 71% against G5

krindorr

5/16/21 11:45am

UCF is 13 of 55 against P5 teams. That's 24% over their existence.

byusage

5/16/21 1:16pm

Looking over the last ten years they have better records against similar quality

krindorr

5/16/21 6:53pm

Your argument makes no sense.

CougarThug

5/16/21 12:45am

Wait, after last season and the miracle that we received you are honestly going to speak ill of Holmoe? Wow. Just wow.

Rise Against

5/15/21 8:17pm

Quick look at some really bad takes

Blue2thebone

5/15/21 7:55pm

Being irrelevant by mid-September sucks

BYU Fan

5/15/21 10:47pm

Talk to MWC teams who are irrelevant before the season even starts.

Rise Against

5/15/21 11:05pm

It's all about how you define irrelevance

BYU Fan

5/15/21 11:15pm

The AAC is on the East Coast! If it weren't, maybe it would be a higher

byusage

5/15/21 11:28pm

RE: The AAC is on the East Coast! If it weren't, maybe it would be a higher

trigg3r

5/16/21 1:08am

True, if playing last seasons schedule taught us anything about BYU

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