Dude. You called me out for "common sense and reality". Hall is better by every

Jun 18, 2021
3:58:01pm

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objective metric than Romney. Better completion percentage, better ypa, tougher competition, more yards running, better TD/int ratio. That is reality.

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Honest question: What makes Jaren Hall so much better than Romney? I don't think

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:29am

who said he was so much better? seems like a close 3 man race by all accounts

6/18/21 11:33am

Are you kidding me? Posts are overwhelmingly in favor of JH. Not saying he'll

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:44am

You have to remember that most CBer

1CougFan

6/18/21 12:04pm

hit enter too soon! Most CBers are just fans and either go by

1CougFan

6/18/21 12:18pm

There is a difference between thinking that he's a lot better than a lot of

cougaman

6/18/21 1:25pm

^^This. People are simply leaning to who they like. Not many argue that one

Cougar TD

6/18/21 1:47pm

60% of cougar board thinks exactly what Criddle tell them to

travelcoug

6/18/21 1:30pm

Criddle used to jump onto CB frequently and trade banter with fans...

icecougar

6/18/21 3:02pm

I can confirm this. I never share any opinion of mine until I know if it's

GhostRider

6/18/21 5:48pm

From the heresay, it sounds like they have similar-ish arms. But Hall is a

BlueVU

6/18/21 11:33am

No doubt on JH's legs.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:45am

I remember watching his dad in person. That was a good backfield. Him and Jamal.

EtTuKalante

6/18/21 11:47am

I confess I don't remember his dad playing. Was buried then early in my career.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:52am

He came out of the gates absolutely on fire. 100 plus yard in his first 2 games.

EtTuKalante

6/18/21 12:13pm

Small for a FB, little fumble-prone his 1st year but other than that, nice #s!

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 12:34pm

He was almost more third down back, than fullback.

EtTuKalante

6/18/21 12:37pm

and I remember wondering if he was better than Faulk. ha ha

Belboz

6/18/21 1:49pm

Jaren is a playmaker. Baylor is a manager. Both very good.

DraperCoug22

6/18/21 11:34am

The stats & ability to read as a passer didn't back that up 2 years ago.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 11:42am

What stats are you referencing?

wjman11

6/18/21 11:44am

Completion percentages, total yards, interception/td ratio, running efficiency.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 11:47am

I would argue Jaren's stats are better. But like I said, we're splitting hairs.

DraperCoug22

6/18/21 12:50pm

I totally agree. I just think Romney's being undersold by some.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 12:52pm

Look Baylor is a gamer, but

I'mBatman

6/18/21 4:21pm

His handling of their blitzing was very commendable for a first-game starter.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 4:27pm

trick plays require deft decision making and superb execution...

icecougar

6/25/21 12:41pm

not exactly correct on accuracy...

icecougar

6/18/21 3:14pm

So long as manager vs playmaker isn't set up as a dichotomy I can sign off on it

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 3:38pm

good example with Ty...

icecougar

6/25/21 12:36pm

For me, I just like how he looked in game. It could simply be a bias on my part

Cougar TD

6/18/21 11:39am

Jaren Hall's 1st half against USU shows what he can do.

Jeffacka

6/18/21 11:47am

And Romney's play and wins do not show what he can do?

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:49am

He's fine, but I don't see him ever being the reason the team wins.

Jeffacka

6/18/21 11:52am

2nd half of Liberty game shows as much.

Turnpike Lane

6/18/21 12:03pm

No, it doesn't.

Jeffacka

6/18/21 12:05pm

It's out of fear that Romney might look really good.

MrClark

6/18/21 11:59am

This is one of the dumbest takes I have ever seen on this board. I'm embarrassed for you.

Turnpike Lane

6/18/21 12:02pm

Romney throws better than the #2 draft pick?

Jeffacka

6/18/21 12:03pm

If true, why’d Romney end up 3rd string twice?

deliciousmocha

6/18/21 12:16pm

When was Romney 3rd string twice? Sure wasn't 3rd string last year.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 12:38pm

Yes...

SoCalCoug

6/18/21 12:28pm

That's what Arod said...

icecougar

6/25/21 12:50pm

He is more athletic and from what I gather has a stronger arm. I think he looked

cougaman

6/18/21 11:51am

JH significant playing time: USF - one game, lost. USU - one half, hurt, out.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 11:54am

That half against USU was beautiful.

Jeffacka

6/18/21 11:57am

100% agree on that, but it was only one half. Key word: "only".

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 12:35pm

But we saw what he could do on the field.

Jeffacka

6/18/21 12:39pm

So, we can't draw any conclusions whatsoever because there was a small sample

cougaman

6/18/21 12:15pm

Sure you can draw conclusions, but the smaller the sample the higher chance that

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 12:37pm

Romney only had about 40 more pass attempts than Hall in 2019 against pretty

cougaman

6/18/21 12:45pm

Also, don't ask others a question about their opinion then get snippy with them

cougaman

6/18/21 12:53pm

"Snippy"? Got it. (Whoops, that was snippy....)

BleedCougarBlue2

6/18/21 3:32pm

Dude. You called me out for "common sense and reality". Hall is better by every

cougaman

6/18/21 3:58pm

"Tougher competition"? Really? Also, things I think Romney in 2019 was clearly

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 4:11pm

He compiled most of his stats against liberty, and outside of some trick plays

cougaman

6/18/21 4:16pm

Was the best QB in that game. His skill players were clearly not on BSU's level.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 4:22pm

Hall wasn't in that game, so how is that even relevant.

cougaman

6/18/21 4:44pm

Yeah, I meant BSU's guy, Cord.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 5:28pm

and for the record, how can you say that he's clearly better that Hall when Hall

cougaman

6/18/21 4:24pm

I never said that. He clearly played better than BSU's QB in our game.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 4:29pm

Wait, are we comparing Romney to Hall, or some random QB, and you very

cougaman

6/18/21 4:40pm

You said Baylor didn't play that well against BSU, & I disagreed.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 4:53pm

Agree to disagree. 70 of his yards were off of very gimmicky plays and he was 14

cougaman

6/18/21 4:58pm

The link you gave for that post was to another poster you realize. No?

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 5:05pm

I didn't thanks for pointing it out, I was on my phone so it wasn't as clear to

cougaman

6/18/21 5:32pm

I did kinda jump into a dialogue. Sorry.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 5:38pm

Reminds me of Hill/Stewart.

LeonMarek

6/18/21 11:56am

No, lets not start the better player because he MIGHT get injured.

cougaman

6/18/21 12:17pm

Uhhhh nobody clamored for Stewart over Hill, that was the year We were undefeate

akmewg

6/18/21 1:06pm

Now watch film and eval them. If you can't really do that, then I don't know what to tell you, Hall is better.

Turnpike Lane

6/18/21 11:58am

I agree with that, but Hall's field vision & decision making are still

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 12:12pm

From spring practice highlights it is easy to see that Hall has a stronger arm

Corn Pop

6/18/21 11:58am

Agreed

Captain Barnacles

6/18/21 12:29pm

Also Romney was much more of a running QB than we’ve seen. Twice as many rushing

akmewg

6/18/21 12:54pm

It's not about stats. Watch the two play and the differences are glaring.

Belboz

6/18/21 1:09pm

Like John Walsh versus that scrawny lil game manager who preceded him.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 1:13pm

And anyone who thinks John Walsh was bad didn't watch.

Belboz

6/18/21 1:18pm

Compared to the scrawny manager before him at BYU — his arm looked

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 1:22pm

and Walsh was an elite college QB.

Belboz

6/18/21 1:23pm

He shoulda got a real shot in the Pros, in my mind. He woulda stuck.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 1:24pm

I remember watching him throw for over 600 yards against Utah State

Belboz

6/18/21 1:22pm

Wow one HALF against a bad USU defense sure has a lot of people enamored. And

akmewg

6/18/21 1:16pm

Everything Romney does is slow and arm strength isn't anywhere near the same.

Belboz

6/18/21 1:19pm

His decision making looked clearly FASTER than Hall's, imo.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 1:25pm

If he's forced to play, I hope he finds a way to surpass Hall.

Belboz

6/18/21 1:47pm

I expect Hall to win this (if not Conover). But Baylor has some great strengths.

SinkingQuffa

6/18/21 1:52pm

I think the jury is very much out on who's better right now.

LEDSFW

6/18/21 1:14pm

For me it was the spin and velocity on the ball (JH). BR seems to float the ball

ImuaKahuku

6/18/21 1:25pm

Agreed; not sure why there seems to be overwhelming CB support for Hall . . . .

fruitless

6/18/21 1:49pm

Jaren can make all the throws. Romney cannot. He can do a lot of things well,

Thrill

6/18/21 2:03pm

Not sure if he's "so much better". He hasn't played since 2019. Both players...

icecougar

6/18/21 3:00pm

I was in favor of Romney two yearsago, even ahead

pappabear246

6/18/21 4:16pm

Honest answer then: the coaches know more than us.

DazeofBlue

6/18/21 4:56pm

not his H.S history, very avg. So we are basing all this on

delete_king

6/18/21 7:44pm

C'mon man. You need to go back earlier in that drive. He took a helmet-to-helmet

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