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Feb 3, 2023
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The_Cuss
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Exactly, Utes have little value outside of a CURRENT winning program. Ask Utes
A winning program can drop just as fast as the curtains did in the Huntsman center. LOL
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It is 100% in BYU’s best interest for the Big 12 to invite the Arizonas
Loafer
2/3/23 11:37am
Without California I struggle to see value for the Big 12 to expand to the west
HuskerFan2
2/3/23 11:42am
There is a reason why Yormark talks about a 4th time zone.
Loafer
2/3/23 11:45am
You get Oregon and Washington, by inviting ASU and UofA.
Dryfire
2/3/23 4:10pm
UO/UW are very valuable. Others could fit your argument, but UO/UW would
BYUHgrad
2/3/23 11:56am
But not a cultural fit, I doubt they’d stay long & would be a headache
pegushin
2/3/23 3:18pm
I don't. But your pt is valid, which is why I continue to think SDSU will remain
SinkingQuffa
2/3/23 12:06pm
I hear this a lot — where does this come from that USC won't want Oregon?
Cougsnstuffs
2/3/23 2:55pm
It goes beyond that. It's institutional envy & jealously. That swings both ways.
SinkingQuffa
2/3/23 3:36pm
The B12 only really needs to try to poach 2 Pac-12 schools to destabilize the
BYUMizzou
2/3/23 11:42am
For you, are the Arizonas The two schools?
Florwood
2/3/23 11:43am
Culturally those two schools fit better than the west coast schools
BYUMizzou
2/3/23 11:48am
The Big 10 has said publicly they are not expanding
Loafer
2/3/23 11:50am
Jim Harbaugh publicly said he was staying at UM and then interviewed w/Broncos…
RossoNeri
2/3/23 11:55am
Sure, and I agree with your assessment. Cal and Stanford are next on the Big 10
Loafer
2/3/23 12:00pm
Disagree. AZ schools don't bring much value at all.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/3/23 11:43am
Hmm… top 8 tv market? How does that not bring value?
Loafer
2/3/23 11:46am
same way Rutgers doesn't bring the #1 Tv Market in NYC.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/3/23 11:49am
Yet the Big 10 added them and it increased the payout of their contract. Weird.
Loafer
2/3/23 11:51am
oh boy... sorry this thread isn't going how you'd hoped... but lol dog.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/3/23 11:55am
How do you think it is going, and how is that different than how I thought it
Loafer
2/3/23 11:58am
literally no one agrees with you is how it's going and the Rutgers add was a
Mayor of Cougartown
2/3/23 12:06pm
I agree with him and disagree with you. The AZ schools coming would alone kill
YbeatsU
2/3/23 12:44pm
You must be a nobody 😉
Loafer
2/3/23 2:20pm
that's not even the arguement dude. I said they don't bring value to the BigXII
Mayor of Cougartown
2/3/23 3:52pm
He said: “I agree with him.” I should have checked with his spokesman first.
Loafer
2/3/23 4:09pm
Geographical expansion is itself of value right now. Brand-wise
SinkingQuffa
2/3/23 12:11pm
Unfortunately, the Arizonas by themselves aren't that appealing to either. P10 would just replace them
TFL
2/3/23 11:51am
So the Arizonas are not competitive, but CO is?
Loafer
2/3/23 11:53am
No. Utah is a homerun competitively and Utah / CU bring the same # of markets as Arizonas.
TFL
2/3/23 12:13pm
Adding Utah is not adding a new market
CameronG
2/3/23 2:23pm
You continue to forget about the most important driver of expansion: money
Loafer
2/3/23 2:25pm
This is such a silly take. Let me break it down for you.
The_Cuss
2/3/23 2:31pm
I am counting on a drastic drop off of Utah when the PAC implodes and Utah is
Loafer
2/3/23 2:35pm
Sanders will fail & be history in 3 years, imo. Even w that remarkable staff.
SinkingQuffa
2/3/23 12:14pm
CU will be for probably the next 2-3 years
BYU Grounds
2/3/23 12:20pm
So CU is the cute girl and the yewts are the friend. Got it.
RossoNeri
2/3/23 11:57am
and what exactly does utah bring? part of a small market with little national interest? Gotcha
ManicBlue
2/3/23 12:14pm
You'll notice, they never talk about just taking the Arizonas. Or even CU and an Arizona. It's always Utah
TFL
2/3/23 1:15pm
They? Also, every deal has to have some throw-in ... just like when the pac 10 took the utes before.
ManicBlue
2/3/23 2:03pm
Funny how a PAC homer is such an expert on what the Big XII wants
AlternateShot
2/3/23 2:17pm
Sounds like he's hoping for an invite rather than looking to stay in the pac 12-2 although I thought that
ManicBlue
2/3/23 2:20pm
He is clearly in full lobby mode. The shoe appears to be on the other foot.
Loafer
2/3/23 2:28pm
Substitute "begging" for "hoping" and head, meet nail.
AlternateShot
2/3/23 2:29pm
There is a clear distinction between Utes like TFL who can read the writing on
Loafer
2/3/23 2:41pm
2017
AlternateShot
2/3/23 2:43pm
It's not writing on the wall. Utah is in a great spot. Either P12 stays together or Utah jumps to Big 12.
TFL
2/3/23 3:41pm
A long winded response with no reference to the only thing that matters -> $$$
The_Cuss
2/3/23 3:44pm
Eyeballs = money bro. Check out Utah total TV ratings vs. CU, ASU and UofA...even the great BYU. I remember
TFL
2/3/23 6:06pm
I love how you never address the fact that the Utah market is covered with BYU
The_Cuss
2/3/23 10:15pm
BC it's not relevant. Just as you mention both AZs coming together.
TFL
2/3/23 10:59pm
The thing is, there's no "sure thing" that that yewts get into the B12...you
AlternateShot
2/3/23 3:49pm
The Big12 will invite Utah only if
byublue42
2/3/23 5:07pm
Oregon > UW >> Utah >>> CU >>>>>> Arizonas >>>>SDSU
TFL
2/3/23 6:39pm
You've become tiresome. You have an opinion. Fine. Doesn't make it fact.
AlternateShot
2/3/23 6:44pm
You guys too. Like I said, if the Pac 10 falls, you're going to be very surprised Utah gets the invite.
TFL
2/3/23 10:35pm
Don't cry when you don't get invited
ManicBlue
2/9/23 10:32pm
Are these pundits named Wilner and Canzano?
Loafer
2/10/23 10:20am
Awesome ... you have fan boards on your side. Glad Yormark is smarter than that.
ManicBlue
2/9/23 10:32pm
Don't give him too much credit, he's said UU is the safest school in the P10
tacallaway
2/3/23 6:56pm
From Jon Wilner over the summer (prior to another successful season):
TFL
2/3/23 10:44pm
Exactly, Utes have little value outside of a CURRENT winning program. Ask Utes
The_Cuss
2/3/23 2:35pm
Lol looks like we’ve got a couple experts on grading value for conference
bigbossbyu
2/3/23 12:11pm
I'm guessing those 4 teams already have a standing invitation. Doesn't mean they
BlooCoog
2/3/23 1:23pm
Not necessarily the way it works. Schools usually initiate contact, and apply.
Loafer
2/3/23 2:30pm
At least that’s what they have to say publicly. But it’s likely those
BlooCoog
2/3/23 3:04pm
That would be very poor negotiating.
Oatmeal
2/3/23 5:01pm
How many recruits on the team from Arizona?
Traveling Coug
2/3/23 1:29pm
TO Get UW we would have to take WsU
Huck
2/3/23 2:06pm
Where did you hear that? UW wants to be in the B1G, and they aren't
BYUHgrad
2/3/23 2:19pm
Hey Loafer help me understand your statement on the Arizona schools? If the
Bullrider
2/3/23 3:11pm
Take ONE AZ school and CO
NorthwestCoug
2/3/23 4:39pm
Adding the AZ schools is a great idea, also gives BYU some regional conf rivals
Mitty
2/4/23 10:30am
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