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May 6, 2015
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ByuMba90
I keep thinking that an "average" coach would have a .500 record each year.
Am I mistaken in my logic that the "average" coach each year has a 6-6 record or are the average records actually a little higher?
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At the end of the day we'll keep coming back to this...he's just an average HC.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 3:31pm
Average in relation to what?
mulletYno
5/6/15 3:34pm
Average in that an average coach could have a higher winning%
Indy Coug
5/6/15 3:36pm
I keep thinking that an "average" coach would have a .500 record each year.
ByuMba90
5/6/15 3:38pm
Here are the team records since 2005
Indy Coug
5/6/15 3:39pm
So 53-54% is the "average" cumulative record? Am I reading that right? As for
ByuMba90
5/6/15 3:42pm
BYU 18th out of 128 teams. BYU fans seriously have unrealistic expectations
runnincoug
5/6/15 3:45pm
And every other D1 team above BYU has at least 1 BCS bowl appearnace or more.
Turnpike Lane
5/6/15 3:49pm
Sure. I deserve a million bucks. I have a right to that too, right?
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:03pm
You're not considering our schedule
checoug
5/6/15 3:58pm
What is BYU's Sagarin rating average since 2005 which takes into account SOS?
mulletYno
5/6/15 4:02pm
Exactly. Playing an Idaho State or Wagner doesn't negate overall SOS
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:03pm
but when you fill up a schedule with teams like that or...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:24pm
they never do
icecougar
5/6/15 9:11pm
You do know Sagarin is an MIT mathematician right?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:20pm
RE: You do know Sagarin is an MIT mathematician right?
icecougar
5/6/15 9:25pm
But Sagarin does that for you. And BYU still looks good...so...
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:31pm
RE: But Sagarin does that for you. And BYU still looks good...so...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:42pm
He didn't join the staff after Crowton left...and Crowton didn't touch the D.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:53pm
He joined the staff at BYU for the 2003 season which means...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:12pm
But definitely more than zero...
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:26pm
yes, definitely more than zero
icecougar
5/6/15 10:31pm
compare SOS's for those teams ahead of BYU and behind them...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:10pm
Um, that is what Sagarin is for. They're 32nd adjusting for SOS. 16th on
mulletYno
5/6/15 9:14pm
RE: Um, that is what Sagarin is for. They're 32nd adjusting for SOS. 16th on
icecougar
5/6/15 9:29pm
OK, I have to quibble with that. It shows "actual game results." Psh...Who cares
BarraCouga
5/6/15 3:47pm
Actually, #16. Take out Old Dominion and Appy St.
boscatar
5/6/15 4:03pm
RE: Average in that an average coach could have a higher winning%
ZooBlue
5/6/15 6:02pm
BTW, your sig is perfect for you...
ZooBlue
5/6/15 6:03pm
How do you know until he coaches somewhere else?
boogers
5/6/15 3:35pm
That's going to be hard to judge since Bronco would be expected to work more
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 4:43pm
Wow. What a low, cheap thing to say. Seriously?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 4:54pm
I think he'd be expected to work more elsewhere, and I'm not taking a shot at
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 6:12pm
You get it.
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 6:13pm
You're obviously oblivious to statements Bronco has made about working.
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 6:12pm
No. I'm very aware. But the myth has been debunked.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 7:57pm
Debunk this
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 8:13pm
Myth debunking has been debunked!
icecougar
5/6/15 10:13pm
Relax BC. No reason to get all bent out of shape. This is a message board where
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 8:40pm
The implication that he doesn't work hard is just so, so wrong.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 8:45pm
You haven't debunked my post. I am not questioning Bronco at all, just making
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 9:14pm
Morally wrong? Um, ok. Technically wrong, maybe, but calling it morally wrong
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 9:21pm
I don't think so. Not a single poster on this board knows how hard he works.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:40pm
Dude, seriously, you need to relax before your head pops off. Nobody is
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 9:51pm
He has a strong work ethic too. Suggesting otherwise is simply wrong.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:11pm
Please show where someone in this thread said, "He doesn't work hard" or...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:19pm
Myths aren't formed in a single thread. And you know that.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:24pm
Nobody is assassinating your brother's character. Freakin relax.
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 10:29pm
nobody in this thread said he doesn't work his butt off...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:30pm
El Loco!
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 11:19pm
Ladders of Inference
icecougar
5/6/15 10:16pm
RE: The implication that he doesn't work hard is just so, so wrong.
kahuna
5/6/15 10:16pm
no it hasn't. Link to Bronco talking about his unique coaching model
icecougar
5/6/15 9:50pm
Chillax dude...SoValleyCoug's post wasn't questioning his work ethic
icecougar
5/6/15 9:57pm
Bronco has talked openly about his coaching model and not putting in the hours..
icecougar
5/6/15 9:21pm
I have zero interest in having a coach at BYU that neglects his family.
mulletYno
5/6/15 9:31pm
I didn't say I expected him to work more...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:41pm
We should replace him with an above average HC. Like right now.
Deadpool
5/6/15 3:36pm
I would say he is average at hiring, which in fairness is a big part of being a
Cougar TD
5/6/15 3:37pm
Yep. Just an average HC with a much better record than 85% of other coaches.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 3:44pm
Yes because all records are created equal. He's a god among men.
SandYFan
5/6/15 3:46pm
yes. BYU win over Idaho = Penn St win over Ohio St or Utah win over Alabama
icecougar
5/6/15 10:21pm
Maybe he recruits too many RM's?
checoug
5/6/15 3:59pm
Well he certainly has his hand firmly on the small of your back.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:02pm
When was the last time BYU was great? 96?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 4:31pm
RE: At the end of the day we'll keep coming back to this...he's just an average
Bensoncoug
5/6/15 4:00pm
If you're telling me we've topped out, gonna be hard to stay engaged as a fan.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:08pm
I think he varies between average and above average. Some games he's an above
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 4:10pm
Let's be honest. I think people are asking for an "elite" coach. Therefore,
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:11pm
There's no such thing as an elite coach without elite talent. They don't exist.
mulletYno
5/6/15 4:12pm
Let's be honest. I think people are asking for an "elite" coach. Therefore, BC
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:15pm
Is it bashing to be called average?
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:16pm
In most contexts on CB, yes, I believe it is. Perhaps you did not mean it to be.
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:23pm
It sounds that way when it's "he's average --- fire him!"
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:29pm
Stupid banter?
checoug
5/6/15 4:31pm
proof is in the pudding
kiyoshige
5/6/15 5:27pm
True, but Bronco would not have lasted this long at many other D1 schools. His
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 6:09pm
Most schools would KILL for his on field performance.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 6:13pm
i don't sit on BOT so I don't know how much they "weight" on vs. off field
kiyoshige
5/6/15 7:35pm
Mouse in your pocket?
mtnKat
5/6/15 6:54pm
When media professionals and Bronco's peers say he is coaching with one arm tied
dultso
5/6/15 8:58pm
I consider him above average
icecougar
5/6/15 9:08pm
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