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May 6, 2015
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Texas Hammer
Relax BC. No reason to get all bent out of shape. This is a message board where
differing opinions are posted. Nobody questions BM's character, and you don't need to get offended if someone thinks BM needs to make changes.
Yes he works hard, but he still lost to some pathetic teams last year.
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At the end of the day we'll keep coming back to this...he's just an average HC.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 3:31pm
Average in relation to what?
mulletYno
5/6/15 3:34pm
Average in that an average coach could have a higher winning%
Indy Coug
5/6/15 3:36pm
I keep thinking that an "average" coach would have a .500 record each year.
ByuMba90
5/6/15 3:38pm
Here are the team records since 2005
Indy Coug
5/6/15 3:39pm
So 53-54% is the "average" cumulative record? Am I reading that right? As for
ByuMba90
5/6/15 3:42pm
BYU 18th out of 128 teams. BYU fans seriously have unrealistic expectations
runnincoug
5/6/15 3:45pm
And every other D1 team above BYU has at least 1 BCS bowl appearnace or more.
Turnpike Lane
5/6/15 3:49pm
Sure. I deserve a million bucks. I have a right to that too, right?
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:03pm
You're not considering our schedule
checoug
5/6/15 3:58pm
What is BYU's Sagarin rating average since 2005 which takes into account SOS?
mulletYno
5/6/15 4:02pm
Exactly. Playing an Idaho State or Wagner doesn't negate overall SOS
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:03pm
but when you fill up a schedule with teams like that or...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:24pm
they never do
icecougar
5/6/15 9:11pm
You do know Sagarin is an MIT mathematician right?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:20pm
RE: You do know Sagarin is an MIT mathematician right?
icecougar
5/6/15 9:25pm
But Sagarin does that for you. And BYU still looks good...so...
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:31pm
RE: But Sagarin does that for you. And BYU still looks good...so...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:42pm
He didn't join the staff after Crowton left...and Crowton didn't touch the D.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:53pm
He joined the staff at BYU for the 2003 season which means...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:12pm
But definitely more than zero...
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:26pm
yes, definitely more than zero
icecougar
5/6/15 10:31pm
compare SOS's for those teams ahead of BYU and behind them...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:10pm
Um, that is what Sagarin is for. They're 32nd adjusting for SOS. 16th on
mulletYno
5/6/15 9:14pm
RE: Um, that is what Sagarin is for. They're 32nd adjusting for SOS. 16th on
icecougar
5/6/15 9:29pm
OK, I have to quibble with that. It shows "actual game results." Psh...Who cares
BarraCouga
5/6/15 3:47pm
Actually, #16. Take out Old Dominion and Appy St.
boscatar
5/6/15 4:03pm
RE: Average in that an average coach could have a higher winning%
ZooBlue
5/6/15 6:02pm
BTW, your sig is perfect for you...
ZooBlue
5/6/15 6:03pm
How do you know until he coaches somewhere else?
boogers
5/6/15 3:35pm
That's going to be hard to judge since Bronco would be expected to work more
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 4:43pm
Wow. What a low, cheap thing to say. Seriously?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 4:54pm
I think he'd be expected to work more elsewhere, and I'm not taking a shot at
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 6:12pm
You get it.
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 6:13pm
You're obviously oblivious to statements Bronco has made about working.
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 6:12pm
No. I'm very aware. But the myth has been debunked.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 7:57pm
Debunk this
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 8:13pm
Myth debunking has been debunked!
icecougar
5/6/15 10:13pm
Relax BC. No reason to get all bent out of shape. This is a message board where
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 8:40pm
The implication that he doesn't work hard is just so, so wrong.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 8:45pm
You haven't debunked my post. I am not questioning Bronco at all, just making
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 9:14pm
Morally wrong? Um, ok. Technically wrong, maybe, but calling it morally wrong
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 9:21pm
I don't think so. Not a single poster on this board knows how hard he works.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 9:40pm
Dude, seriously, you need to relax before your head pops off. Nobody is
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 9:51pm
He has a strong work ethic too. Suggesting otherwise is simply wrong.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:11pm
Please show where someone in this thread said, "He doesn't work hard" or...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:19pm
Myths aren't formed in a single thread. And you know that.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 10:24pm
Nobody is assassinating your brother's character. Freakin relax.
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 10:29pm
nobody in this thread said he doesn't work his butt off...
icecougar
5/6/15 10:30pm
El Loco!
SoValleyCOUG
5/6/15 11:19pm
Ladders of Inference
icecougar
5/6/15 10:16pm
RE: The implication that he doesn't work hard is just so, so wrong.
kahuna
5/6/15 10:16pm
no it hasn't. Link to Bronco talking about his unique coaching model
icecougar
5/6/15 9:50pm
Chillax dude...SoValleyCoug's post wasn't questioning his work ethic
icecougar
5/6/15 9:57pm
Bronco has talked openly about his coaching model and not putting in the hours..
icecougar
5/6/15 9:21pm
I have zero interest in having a coach at BYU that neglects his family.
mulletYno
5/6/15 9:31pm
I didn't say I expected him to work more...
icecougar
5/6/15 9:41pm
We should replace him with an above average HC. Like right now.
Deadpool
5/6/15 3:36pm
I would say he is average at hiring, which in fairness is a big part of being a
Cougar TD
5/6/15 3:37pm
Yep. Just an average HC with a much better record than 85% of other coaches.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 3:44pm
Yes because all records are created equal. He's a god among men.
SandYFan
5/6/15 3:46pm
yes. BYU win over Idaho = Penn St win over Ohio St or Utah win over Alabama
icecougar
5/6/15 10:21pm
Maybe he recruits too many RM's?
checoug
5/6/15 3:59pm
Well he certainly has his hand firmly on the small of your back.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:02pm
When was the last time BYU was great? 96?
BarraCouga
5/6/15 4:31pm
I think that is an over simplification of it all
Jericho
5/6/15 3:47pm
RE: At the end of the day we'll keep coming back to this...he's just an average
Bensoncoug
5/6/15 4:00pm
If you're telling me we've topped out, gonna be hard to stay engaged as a fan.
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:08pm
I think he varies between average and above average. Some games he's an above
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 4:10pm
Let's be honest. I think people are asking for an "elite" coach. Therefore,
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:11pm
There's no such thing as an elite coach without elite talent. They don't exist.
mulletYno
5/6/15 4:12pm
Let's be honest. I think people are asking for an "elite" coach. Therefore, BC
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:15pm
Is it bashing to be called average?
Grit for Brains
5/6/15 4:16pm
In most contexts on CB, yes, I believe it is. Perhaps you did not mean it to be.
Boomcannon
5/6/15 4:23pm
It sounds that way when it's "he's average --- fire him!"
runnincoug
5/6/15 4:29pm
Stupid banter?
checoug
5/6/15 4:31pm
proof is in the pudding
kiyoshige
5/6/15 5:27pm
True, but Bronco would not have lasted this long at many other D1 schools. His
Texas Hammer
5/6/15 6:09pm
Most schools would KILL for his on field performance.
BarraCouga
5/6/15 6:13pm
i don't sit on BOT so I don't know how much they "weight" on vs. off field
kiyoshige
5/6/15 7:35pm
Mouse in your pocket?
mtnKat
5/6/15 6:54pm
When media professionals and Bronco's peers say he is coaching with one arm tied
dultso
5/6/15 8:58pm
I consider him above average
icecougar
5/6/15 9:08pm
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