You didnt answer is 1st question. How much $$ does it make the school?

I've heard people are upset with this. Why?

Jezza

1/24/17 11:41am

because the changes are actually a downgrade. They are being done in order to

GeauxCougs

1/24/17 11:43am

They are also displacing the team for 80% of their season...

1984coug

1/24/17 11:43am

Hmm. I'll take the swimmers at their word but after reading the FB posts (which were the same) it seems like

Jezza

1/24/17 11:45am

facility was built 52 years ago for a Student Body of 13,000

1984coug

1/24/17 11:47am

They were the same because one of the swimmers shared the first post with her own comments.

byukirty

1/24/17 12:30pm

What kind of inspection?

jensen46

1/24/17 12:04pm

How would you like it if the football team practiced on an 80 yard field?

PharmD

1/24/17 11:45am

I'd love the bball team to practice their half court offense

billyrust

1/24/17 11:57am

So is that why our team chokes in the Blue Zone?

tisdaplace

1/24/17 12:11pm

Interestingly, UCLA football practiced on an 80 yard field until 2015.

cougfromcali

1/24/17 2:40pm

If the football team practiced on a smaller field? They already do...

Dissenter

1/24/17 5:49pm

a 25 million $$ facility was promised, and 1 million $$ were spent getting

1984coug

1/24/17 11:46am

The numbers you have brought are a lot clearer & worse for BYU than that convoluted and angry FB thread. Thank you all!

Jezza

1/24/17 11:48am

Most on the FB thread don't know the hard numbers... or the logistics behind it

1984coug

1/24/17 11:55am

Track team was promised a new track as part of the indoor practice facility

TrackCoug

1/24/17 12:11pm

Yep. Came home from my mission surprised to see we were still in the Fieldhouse

RUNBYU1

1/24/17 5:15pm

Something tells me the approved plans and promises weren't as final or clear

palangi

1/24/17 12:54pm

they had the money....and have donor's and philanthropists chomping at the bit

1984coug

1/24/17 12:59pm

Not true. They have never "had" the money. There have been a lot of

rockhound

1/24/17 1:20pm

$25M included a demo and rebuild of a significant portion of the RB to fit the

Skipshot

1/24/17 1:12pm

The single biggest issue with the old plans was the retrofit of the whole RB for

rockhound

1/24/17 1:25pm

As they should, football pays the bills

BYUSwoop

1/24/17 4:54pm

My understanding though is that all scholarship athletes are receiving the

BYUFam1

1/25/17 7:10am

That is true. But the money for the extra

rockhound

1/25/17 7:27am

Right, I realize it would cost that much, don't know if it's necessary to sink

palangi

1/24/17 1:53pm

It's a downgrade, and I've heard that for years the swim team has been

jensen46

1/24/17 12:05pm

It's a very marginal upgrade.

Shore10

1/24/17 2:59pm

this is a great facility--

1984coug

1/24/17 3:02pm

Yes that's a great point.

Shore10

1/24/17 3:50pm

Because now my kids won't go to BYU if they swim in college.

ditch

1/24/17 4:12pm

It'd be nice to get Tom Holmoe's side to this story

Indy Coug

1/24/17 11:44am

It would.

jensen46

1/24/17 12:08pm

This ^^ Generally when facebook hits the "i'm upset and am going to post"

OGSuperfan

1/24/17 12:14pm

They are not planning to do anything at Provo...

1984coug

1/24/17 12:26pm

Fake news here. There were never any promises or lies.

rockhound

1/24/17 1:27pm

It certainly sounds like those swimmers were promised something more.

Pimpin4Paradise

1/24/17 7:49pm

The admin promised to do what they could.

rockhound

1/25/17 11:06am

Should've kept wrestling and dropped swimming.

Be Y's

1/24/17 11:46am

I wrestled a BYU my daughter's swam there

Blue Heart

1/24/17 1:05pm

What they SHOULD have done is combine the two sports into one.

ditch

1/24/17 6:24pm

Already have that one... It is called Water Polo

CariocaCoug

1/25/17 6:23am

It'd be really hard to get a pin. Darn guy keeps floating back up!

Be Y's

1/25/17 9:37am

Competitive drowning

buffgato

1/25/17 4:16pm

And now women's wrestling is a fast growing sport in college

BYUFam1

1/25/17 7:17am

Interesting. I didn't know there were that many girls in wrestling.

Be Y's

1/25/17 9:33am

Well maybe some well backed swimming fan donors should step up?

Grit for Brains

1/24/17 11:46am

THey have tried and BYU says no

1984coug

1/24/17 11:47am

Interesting. Doesn't add up if that is the case.

Grit for Brains

1/24/17 11:49am

it doesn't... BYU is showing their hand of what they think of Olympic Sports

1984coug

1/24/17 11:53am

This is the thing I understand the least.

jensen46

1/24/17 12:11pm

This is true.

Skipshot

1/24/17 12:55pm

Sister Carri Jenkins doing spin-control again, I see . . .

ElCapo

1/24/17 11:47am

Well, that is her job, so ....

BYUtka

1/25/17 6:35am

How about simply cut the swim teams?

blucoug18

1/24/17 11:49am

Based on this, that sounds like the path they are taking.

BlueCoug

1/24/17 11:52am

sad that a program that produces Olympians time and time again would do this

1984coug

1/24/17 11:53am

When was the last Olympian? I wasn't aware of that. Good for BYU.

Baron

1/24/17 12:02pm

2012- Andrew Rutherfurd, Rafa Alfara-- Bolivia, El Salvador respectively...

1984coug

1/24/17 12:11pm

I had many friends/roommates on the swim and dive teams

blucoug18

1/24/17 12:24pm

Well, I guess BYU could have taken $24M away from the football program instead.

kccougar

1/24/17 11:50am

yes, the only possible solution.

Deleted

1/24/17 11:52am

This is not P-5 thinking. A 50 meter pool really is necessary.

PJMort

1/24/17 12:12pm

It's swimming. You don't make money for the school and nobody cares about you

boorad

1/24/17 12:18pm

You are sure there are logical reasons without knowing about it?

Deleted

1/24/17 12:18pm

tell me the last time basketball won conference.. swimming has 5/6 years lately

1984coug

1/24/17 12:23pm

And the fact that I knew nothing about that shows how nobody cares

boorad

1/24/17 12:32pm

doesn't impact you- so go away... next time one of your family members wants to

1984coug

1/24/17 12:49pm

The fact that you know nothing has no reflection on or from anyone else.

Skipshot

1/24/17 12:54pm

And nobody even knew the swimming team had that history, cause it's swimming

cougarfuzz

1/24/17 12:32pm

every swimmer knows no one cares about swimming except every 4 years

1984coug

1/24/17 12:53pm

I'd be interested in seeing data showing swimming is one of the fastest growing

BYUFam1

1/25/17 7:40am

Swimming is not always a popular spectator sport, but it's a very popular

Skipshot

1/24/17 1:03pm

proof is in the pudding, BYU does not consider it that big of a deal or they'd

palangi