Like it's so hard to get out of a non-p5 conference. The argument that we need

Sep 24, 2017
12:47:37pm

cougtrain Walk-on

to stay independent so we can move when a p5 invite comes is so weak. Look at all the teams that just left for p5 conferences with no trouble. Look at all the aac school that were lining up to leave for the big 12 last year. Argument makes no sense.

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Is this what the end of Independence looks like?

mtnKat

9/24/17 10:46am

You pretty much nailed it.

ABCoug

9/24/17 10:49am

Nope, you got it right.

rerunc

9/24/17 10:51am

AAC is not a current option according to Mike Aresco

bcriddle

9/24/17 10:13pm

With due respect Ben, I just listened to it again and that's not what he said.

mannheimadler

9/25/17 1:05pm

Pretty good summary

TNT

9/24/17 10:52am

We don't want MWC or AAC. Indy it is for the forseeable future.

LiveCoug

9/24/17 10:54am

Seems there are no good options. Everybody sucks, and I hate everything.

sgriff

9/24/17 10:58am

You too?

TNT

9/24/17 11:04am

Probably.

sgriff

9/24/17 12:05pm

So BYU continues to wander in the wilderness of independence until one day

dadofkhec

9/24/17 10:59am

Independence IS a humbling, bumbling failure

CallingDingo

9/24/17 11:27am

Seven years worth of data support this but Cougar nation prefers to cling to a

mm73

9/24/17 11:55am

Isn't 7 years famine a sign of the times?

8Bcougar

9/24/17 11:59am

It's definitely a sign that something is working as planned

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:37pm

I would be all for conference affiliation if we could keep espn contract.

kolob32

9/24/17 11:37am

Let's be fair to TCU. They didn't "break up the MWC." We left before they did.

mannheimadler

9/24/17 11:57am

^^^this.

Skysthelimit

9/24/17 3:55pm

So true. Not to mention, we had TWO shots at joining BIG-12. uuuggghhh!!

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:38pm

Give the football program to UVU but keep the uniforms the same &

Y4LYFE

9/24/17 12:12pm

Brilliant play! We could call it "Boise State South"

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:39pm

I think the Honor Code, LDS affiliation, recruiting base and recruiting limitations are far more detrimental to

byuTX

9/24/17 12:14pm

Agreed - without some type of tweak the HC affiliation

HerkCoug

9/24/17 2:37pm

I agree - unless AAC inclusion were done in secret and then announced

License To Ill

9/24/17 12:15pm

I think I would enjoy watching us play AAC schools though. Much more than MWC.

License To Ill

9/24/17 12:17pm

Don't you just hate Social Justice

Cougtruth

9/24/17 12:55pm

Whose definition of social justice? Yours, I'm assuming?

License To Ill

9/24/17 4:02pm

The kind where society has the same rules for everyone. Religion will always be

Polecat

9/24/17 6:03pm

Oh really? Is that what's happening?

License To Ill

9/24/17 7:29pm

They don't have to be ok with it. Religion has too often prevented society

Polecat

9/24/17 7:44pm

I'm not in favor of religion forcing their views on all. By the same token

License To Ill

9/24/17 8:01pm

Anyway, you can have last word. You know you're morally and intellectually

License To Ill

9/24/17 8:06pm

Made up term used seriously by you = sycophantic troll.

Ash

9/24/17 6:36pm

The landscape could change in an instant. TH knows that and wants us available

SUAVO

9/24/17 12:27pm

Like it's so hard to get out of a non-p5 conference. The argument that we need

cougtrain

9/24/17 12:47pm

Isn't the aac exit fee around 10 million? Many of those schools were willing

SUAVO

9/24/17 4:19pm

More about perception - confer need have allowed

truecougster

9/24/17 6:57pm

Hallow wishes

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:46pm

We don't, and nobody says we will, but a multitude of things can happen

SUAVO

9/24/17 6:54pm

Is that code for "Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams?

Tsisquan

9/24/17 11:46pm

The lawyer was with the Big East...stop the revisionist history.

BYUSwoop

9/24/17 1:56pm

I love the urban legend that BYU passed on the Big 12.

ataylor

9/24/17 2:02pm

I don't know what really happened, but the BIG 12 was in a very fragile state,

Ocho Cuatro

9/24/17 4:55pm

Big-12 clearly has some dysfunctions but they are much better off than we are

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:49pm

They are now. They were at risk of collapsing when BYU was in talks.

Ocho Cuatro

9/24/17 9:24pm

The thing is had they collapsed BYU would have landed in the exact same spot

ABCoug

9/26/17 5:50pm

And the "piece of work' attorney kept us from joining the Big East, not the

NewMexiCoug

9/24/17 8:44pm

BYU get rid of sports.

TutumTeRoboreReddam

9/24/17 2:55pm

Too much tradition. This will never happen unless we begin to have

Skysthelimit

9/24/17 4:02pm

It will work out, if it's meant to...

truecougster

9/24/17 4:02pm

RE: It will work out, if it's meant to...

longtimeYfan

9/24/17 4:46pm

Agree - some on here don't like to hear that it's

truecougster

9/24/17 6:48pm

All the talk of Independence no longer being sustainable

CougarsFanSince80s

9/24/17 4:03pm

He's stated in the past it's not sustainable long term Bronco also echoed this

franklyvulgar

9/24/17 5:32pm

I agree that at some point it will no longer be the way to go but

CougarsFanSince80s

9/24/17 7:55pm

Yep, people just want to react to the losses. Knee jerk reaction to the stupid.

BYUSwoop

9/24/17 6:12pm

No, it's just that once we inevitably lose a couple of games in Sept (like we do

Run-DMT

9/24/17 6:25pm

Fair analysis...

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:34pm

I think it's conceivable that BYU addresses the HC issue

cajuncoug

9/24/17 6:43pm

Sure, but what should give us all the cold sweats at night...

insidebyu

9/24/17 6:51pm

Nah. Do that and we permanently brand ourselves as Amish of the Rockies

cajuncoug

9/24/17 9:05pm

Take away Indy Sched and TV exposure? Bye bye recruits.

Katewot

9/24/17 9:22pm

Really? Has recruiting been any better since we've gone indy?

sgriff

9/24/17 9:25pm

Where are our hot shot Indy WRs? We've got a couple of JC transfers, local guys

Run-DMT

9/25/17 10:40am

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