Same with Heaps. Point is, talent isn't the issue. We recruit

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Nov 20, 2017
3:57:28pm

Yunit Starter

highly rated guys and that doesn't guarantee anything. Schemes, culture and coaching is more important.

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Time

Un-freaking-believable

Elvis

11/20/17 11:31am

How exactly is the talent at BYU going to improve? I actually see it getting

Chester Copperpot

11/20/17 11:35am

Because the coaches are committed to recruiting and evaluating better talent

donnerstag

11/20/17 11:52am

Even Kalani can't put lipstick on this pig. Especially if he doesn't

CougarLoyalist

11/20/17 11:54am

So was Bronco and his staff. Sucking will completely offset any committment

Chester Copperpot

11/20/17 12:04pm

Bronco wasn't committed to recruiting

donnerstag

11/20/17 12:16pm

Bronco was a very, very good coach, but

CMuehle

11/20/17 12:24pm

Bronco's fear of bringing in someone that would embarrass the program off the

TailgateU

11/20/17 12:30pm

Look no further than "Iggies" and the presser for Heaps, Apo and Stout....

Bonoman

11/20/17 4:54pm

At this point, I don't think better talent will matter much. You have to teach

Chester Copperpot

11/20/17 12:34pm

You're forgetting about experience

donnerstag

11/20/17 12:37pm

Tanner Mangum was a proven starter. But all I hear is excuses. BYU sucks and I

Chester Copperpot

11/20/17 12:49pm

The previous coaching staff was able to hide Mangum's deficiencies

donnerstag

11/20/17 12:55pm

The previous staff had a scheme that suited Tanner. The current scheme requires

TailgateU

11/20/17 1:24pm

The personnel was better suited for Mangum in 2015

donnerstag

11/20/17 1:58pm

Every excuse given for this mess but coaching. Unbelievable.

kooogar

11/20/17 2:07pm

Coaching is a problem too

donnerstag

11/20/17 2:21pm

It's true, just hadn't heard you say that. For everyone's sake, I sure hope

kooogar

11/20/17 6:23pm

RE: It's true, just hadn't heard you say that. For everyone's sake, I sure hope

donnerstag

11/20/17 6:29pm

Thanks, not online those days.

kooogar

11/20/17 6:31pm

There is some great talent coming next year that RS this year.

BYU Grounds

11/20/17 1:29pm

RE: Un-freaking-believable

Sea Chicken

11/20/17 11:35am

RE: Un-freaking-believable

Indy Coug

11/20/17 11:42am

Agree on how SMART they are but when I can predict the next play

Qhall

11/20/17 1:37pm

Plus, plenty of teams have their programs' worst season in 60+ years, amirite? Must happen all the time

byuTX

11/20/17 11:36am

All the explains doing horrible against PSU in the opener?

mudpupper

11/20/17 11:38am

This is a very valid point. If we would've dumptrucked PSU on week 1, you could

SneakerPimp

11/20/17 2:01pm

Week 1 is rarely a great barometer for how a team will do

donnerstag

11/20/17 2:22pm

Generally yes. But in this case it refutes the claim that our dumpster fire

SneakerPimp

11/20/17 4:18pm

The week 1 offense was missing MLP, Tolutau, and Jimenez

donnerstag

11/20/17 4:26pm

Portland St. Dude, it’s Portland freaking St. LOL. How many starters was LSU

SneakerPimp

11/20/17 7:18pm

but if you suck week 0, week 1, week 2, week 3, week 4, week 5, week 6, week7...

Dissenter

11/21/17 12:03pm

Sorry week 0 is on a QB / Wr group that thought they understood but clearly had

stonecougar

11/20/17 2:36pm

LOL. Too funny. Blame the players but give the coaches a free pass? Too funny.

SneakerPimp

11/20/17 4:13pm

Blame the stupid student or the bad teacher doesn’t matter F is an F

stonecougar

11/20/17 7:53pm

Anyone that is claiming the talent excuse has zero credibility.

RockyTopCougar

11/20/17 7:42pm

It's talent, experience, and coaching

donnerstag

11/20/17 7:54pm

Crowton was a terrible coach that won 12 games his first year...

NorCal_Coug

11/20/17 8:29pm

Worst record in 40 years. Losing to UMASS.

RockyTopCougar

11/20/17 7:43pm

This is the same team that averaged 8-5 over the last five years

2FarGone

11/20/17 11:39am

Hmmm. So you're saying our talent will improve and they will show

CougarLoyalist

11/20/17 11:40am

Also, I wouldn't say Kalani sucks to his face, but not because I don't believe

CougarLoyalist

11/20/17 11:43am

What would be the point of telling that to their face?

thebruce

11/20/17 11:43am

Coaching helps talent look good and talent helps coaching look good

Ulysses14

11/20/17 11:56am

Truth! BYU has better talent than USU, FSU, ECU, UMass, etc. That's coaching!

NorCal_Coug

11/20/17 11:59am

Where was all the excuse making for a decent coaching staff (Bronco/Anae

NorCal_Coug

11/20/17 11:58am

The longest leash?

donnerstag

11/20/17 12:19pm

How about we hire coaches who have significant D1 experience? I know, it's a

OlanchoCoug

11/20/17 1:55pm

Another season? Good grief, how much more do you need to see?

NorCal_Coug

11/20/17 5:41pm

I want to see how Detmer does with experienced personnel

donnerstag

11/20/17 5:47pm

I just don't understand that. We'll have to agree to disagree.

NorCal_Coug

11/20/17 6:16pm

RE: Un-freaking-believable

TailgateU

11/20/17 12:21pm

oh geez. another talent post. Didn't realize our back-ups were worse than

mindzeYe

11/20/17 12:29pm

Amen!! We have a freakin Walk-On QB starting for us. What do we expect??????????

CObluezone

11/20/17 12:32pm

Expect? To put a beating on (a still winless) Portland St, at home, on week 1.

SneakerPimp

11/20/17 1:44pm

We had a former freshman All-American start 8 games at QB this year

jbcoug

11/21/17 9:01am

We lost a football game to a school called UMASS. At home. Let that sink in.

cougarnw

11/20/17 12:34pm

...on Senior Day...to a team that crossed two time zones at elevation.

MichCoug

11/20/17 1:09pm

For the record, I have asked a lot of coaches over the years to their face why

Cougarfan777

11/20/17 12:37pm

Please tell us you didn't actually say that to Bronco.

Roko's Basilisk

11/20/17 12:41pm

Coming off the fireside stage no less, and with a game the next day to prepare

Cougarfan777

11/20/17 12:44pm

you must be a blast at parties.

demon_llama

11/20/17 12:46pm

Party for what? It all depends. Twister? Musical chairs? Yeah I'm pretty

Cougarfan777

11/20/17 12:49pm

I dunno, it seems like yourepretty proud of your ability to “tell it like it is”

demon_llama

11/20/17 1:26pm

That would be Elvis. Re-read my comment. Time and place. Coaches

Cougarfan777

11/20/17 2:41pm

How did everyone on this thread not comment on this first.

Blue2thebone

11/20/17 2:22pm

Unlike many here

Elvis

11/20/17 2:32pm

What was his reaction?

Zman

11/20/17 4:09pm

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DaCougEye

11/20/17 1:15pm

We just plan suck, all the way around.

HangookCoug

11/20/17 1:45pm

I thought you died on the toilet... or at least your posts reflect that.

ClackamasCoug

11/20/17 2:10pm

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monsterdave

11/20/17 2:12pm

I absolutely would, and I bet plenty on here would, too

reddead

11/20/17 2:13pm

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kahuna

11/20/17 2:19pm

The problem with the protect Ty crowd

300BLK

11/20/17 2:33pm

Virginia losing to Richmond last year was coachibg too huh?

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 3:16pm

Who did Bronco fire when helost to Nevada? Michigan? Richmond?

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 3:18pm

BS. You sound like suspenders boy and BM would have hog tied you in seconds.

Blue2thebone

11/20/17 2:35pm

Injury can't be blamed for all the issues. The culture has changed so much.

cougarmikey

11/20/17 2:40pm

Not enough Talent? Isn't a 4 star QB (aka Tanner) supposed to be enough talent

Yunit

11/20/17 2:55pm

You spelled Jake Heaps Olsen incorrectly...

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 3:20pm

Same with Heaps. Point is, talent isn't the issue. We recruit

Yunit

11/20/17 3:57pm

No. Gettig it right at qb is as important. A good qb will be good

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 6:56pm

Any 4 star QB should be good enough to beat ECU and the likes.

Yunit

11/22/17 11:26am

Awesome observations. Now tell us why we looked so bad in the first game of the season against Portland State.

Brisco

11/20/17 2:57pm

I'll tell you.. tanner isn't very good.Hifo drops too many balls. Our rb's

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 3:26pm

That’s a lot of tough-guy talk. Now, let’s get real...

canofpicante

11/20/17 3:18pm

All in all is every player on this team has looked as if they've gotten worse this year than last year...

crm48

11/20/17 3:24pm

LIle ho be specific.I call bull crap. HOGE LOOKS much btter. Simon ditto, Jonah

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 3:32pm

Most the players you brought up just mostly got more reps... thus was able to perform.. hard to compare Hoge from last

crm48

11/20/17 3:38pm

Which starters look worse besides Mangum?

donnerstag

11/20/17 3:41pm

Most of the offense didn't play at all last year

donnerstag

11/20/17 3:41pm

Sorry, this is too much sucking to explain away

BYUCougarsFan

11/20/17 3:29pm

Urban, Saban and Harbaugh couldn't do better with BYUs roster? That is

ALUF 1990

11/20/17 4:15pm

believe it or not, but I 100% agree with the Ute. He said what I tried to say

ColonelMustard

11/20/17 4:28pm

Well Harbaugh.Michigan HAS MICHIGAN roster. Got 10 pts vs Wiscya want to revise

CarolinaCoug

11/20/17 7:00pm

Losing to the eventual national champion in the playoffs

jbcoug

11/21/17 9:03am

Urban took McBrides roster from 6-6 to 13-0 with ZERO help from new recruits.

ALUF 1990

11/21/17 10:34am

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LumberCoug

11/20/17 7:27pm

Dude is acting like we've been landing recruiting classes in the 120s. There is just noooo talent on this team.

Pimpin4Paradise

11/21/17 11:00pm

This is what i've been saying all along. We're not saying that we have

Yunit

11/22/17 11:28am

Thank-you for your honest evaluation, The mob didn't take it well.

Beetdiggercoug

11/20/17 4:22pm

So while those things you listed are reasons to struggle they are not reason

ColonelMustard

11/20/17 4:27pm

Well if that is the case... why are we overpaying these coaches then?

Coug

11/20/17 7:00pm

Another piece of the why bronco left puzzle emerges

LumberCoug

11/20/17 7:28pm

Well said.

Jasbo

11/20/17 8:59pm

"It might have been the wrong thing to say, but I said it to his face?"

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