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byubyu
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Condolences to the family and friends of the student who fell on Monday.
SoValleyCOUG
12/5/18 4:06pm
I know them well. The tragedy, while saddening, was not surprising and probably
byubyu
12/5/18 4:15pm
This kind of thing is probably best not to put in genpop.
jdub
12/5/18 4:18pm
What kind of thing? That she suffered from mental illness?
byubyu
12/5/18 4:20pm
Because it's incredibly insensitive.
RSL
12/5/18 4:23pm
the post itself is oddly worded anyway considering what happened.
jwf
12/5/18 4:25pm
He isn’t giving her name. I don’t see a problem, but a small insight
Monomachos
12/5/18 4:27pm
I don’t mind the insight but I disagree she is
Archaea
12/5/18 4:32pm
I don’t know enough to judge.
Monomachos
12/5/18 4:35pm
Agree, but I believe there is unbelievable mercy
Carnac
12/5/18 4:40pm
I am not judging. I loathe the expression a person
Archaea
12/5/18 5:55pm
Except, many of these people are seriously suffering and maybe, just maybe
OmahaThunderCoug
12/5/18 6:10pm
That is NOT the point. This discussion is for the living.
Archaea
12/5/18 6:18pm
You should tell this to her parents. I'm sure they would love to hear your
byubyu
12/5/18 6:25pm
They can feel however they wish but we should not
Archaea
12/5/18 6:31pm
Thanks for your input on how we should feel!
byubyu
12/5/18 6:37pm
The trite dismissive response to grief will harm
Archaea
12/5/18 6:46pm
Grieve with those who grieve. I think a lot of us promised that.
SoValleyCOUG
12/5/18 9:36pm
Part of our culture doesn't believe that. We believe grieving makes you a bad
Archaea
12/5/18 10:43pm
Understanding where they are it eases the pain, but it's still very difficult.
SoValleyCOUG
12/5/18 11:02pm
When it hits home you are right but many dismiss
Archaea
12/5/18 11:31pm
Thanks for the clarification. I thought you were originally talking about the
OmahaThunderCoug
12/5/18 6:27pm
THATS BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF PSYCHIATRY, I DO
buckeyecougarguy
12/6/18 4:29pm
Then explain Lithium.
Division Bell
12/6/18 4:31pm
No. No. Abso— Matt, now you're talking about two different things.
buckeyecougarguy
12/6/18 4:39pm
Who's Matt? And why are you screaming on the post above?
Division Bell
12/6/18 4:41pm
Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even — you're glib. You don't even know what
buckeyecougarguy
12/6/18 4:44pm
Sorry, I'm lost.
Division Bell
12/6/18 5:04pm
But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's
buckeyecougarguy
12/6/18 5:07pm
RE: Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even — you're glib. You don't even know
SanDiegoCoug
12/6/18 8:44pm
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Division Bell
12/6/18 8:48pm
I’m fine with thinking the deceased, whether by their own choosing or due to circumstances beyond their control, are
Texas Hammer
12/5/18 4:40pm
Agreed. Really, that's pretty much Gospel doctrine, right? The afterlife is
Game Changer
12/5/18 4:49pm
I hate that expression as it robs the grieving of their grief.
Archaea
12/5/18 5:57pm
Suicide is 100% avoidable. I'm sure they would rather have her institutionalized than dead
IceBlueCoug
12/5/18 4:29pm
isn't cost an issue most times?
jwf
12/5/18 4:31pm
Off you don’t value life
IceBlueCoug
12/5/18 5:15pm
This is the down side to mental health
troutmaster13
12/5/18 5:18pm
That’s when the church can step in and help out
IceBlueCoug
12/5/18 5:36pm
You would hope so but a lot of variables go into getting help sometimes
troutmaster13
12/5/18 6:54pm
it is pricey.....doubt the church is going to pony up thousands every month.
jwf
12/6/18 1:31pm
I saw our stake pony up over $25k for a member
tander123
12/6/18 5:32pm
alpine?
jwf
12/10/18 4:05pm
Anyone who says someone is in a better has either
Archaea
12/5/18 4:31pm
Or you haven't spoken to her parents.....
byubyu
12/5/18 4:39pm
This is absolutely not true. What do you think of people with horrible chronic
Game Changer
12/5/18 4:54pm
You think everyone agrees with you that there is a wonderful
Archaea
12/5/18 5:59pm
I have a co worker that
Swishfromdeep3
12/5/18 6:28pm
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Raging Caddy
12/5/18 6:38pm
I would actually say the opposite. It’s the rationalizing hope that those who
JONBOY
12/5/18 5:07pm
In dealing with grief this is actually a lousy way of dealing with it.
Archaea
12/5/18 6:00pm
This is an ignorant comment. Many people here on earth are not in a good place
volleyjiver
12/5/18 5:14pm
My niece committed suicide after years of a chemical imbalance.
Division Bell
12/5/18 5:36pm
But maybe has watched someone suffer in horrible ways.
kccougar
12/6/18 2:01pm
I wouldn’t be so sure about that...depression can be a terrible, terrible thing. I know people who take joy in knowing
Texas Hammer
12/5/18 4:44pm
Might some find relief or rationalize it? Yes
Archaea
12/5/18 6:02pm
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Raging Caddy
12/5/18 6:03pm
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MMCougIII
12/6/18 11:39am
We should have a goal of 100% prevention outside of
Archaea
12/6/18 11:48am
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MMCougIII
12/6/18 12:09pm
There should be a balance as there will be times where family and friends miss
Archaea
12/6/18 12:55pm
It's not about blame but it's about help. Husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters need to educate
IceBlueCoug
12/6/18 11:59am
Just want to point out
Carnac
12/6/18 12:08pm
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MMCougIII
12/6/18 12:11pm
You could not be more wrong. Suicide is not a necessary result of mental illness. It is preventable in
CDV
12/5/18 4:31pm
Could you share where she lived? Hellman, Heritage, or off campus?
Paco
12/5/18 4:41pm
I pray I never end up in a place where you are in a position of influence for my
unctoothman
12/5/18 4:42pm
He probably could have worded it better
Carnac
12/5/18 4:47pm
It's not that I don't understand the situation, be it mental illness, cancer,
unctoothman
12/5/18 4:51pm
That's fair.
Carnac
12/5/18 4:52pm
The real problem is the message to others with depression.
Paco
12/5/18 4:55pm
Makes sense...
Blue Ghost
12/5/18 5:27pm
Don't condemn somebody because they weren't as sensitive as they should have been. There's too much of that today.
Brisco
12/6/18 12:32am
He was dismissive and resorted to trite phraseology.
Archaea
12/6/18 7:54am
Very harsh words. Don't agree with them. He can be my neighbor.
777
12/6/18 1:19am
That's an awfully cynical way of interpreting what he said.
kccougar
12/6/18 2:05pm
There was a solid year that I worried at least on a monthly basis if my son was
JONBOY
12/5/18 4:59pm
My son is mentally ill.
antiyewt
12/7/18 10:09am
Thanks for sharing. Best wishes to you and your son.
SoValleyCOUG
12/7/18 10:51am
You said it more elegantly than the rest of us. Thank you.
Archaea
12/7/18 11:33am
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