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Feb 15, 2019
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Archaea
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Yes, measles is deadly. See link from CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/downloads/measlesdataandstatsslideset.pdf
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I'm not anti-vaxx, but when you look at the risks that arise from vaccinations
Byron McNertney
2/14/19 8:00am
that one dude that lied and said vaccines can cause autism is a real turd
Mayor of Cougartown
2/14/19 8:03am
And yet, he is practically worshipped by the anti-vaccine movement. SMH.
Delicate Genius
2/14/19 8:20am
Even though he has been proven wrong time and time again
Crazy Duck
2/14/19 8:31am
and also he said he was wrong.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/14/19 8:40am
but but but my best friend's cousin's sister-in-law had a baby that got
Crazy Duck
2/14/19 8:44am
Nice appeal to emotion.
morris_center
2/14/19 9:04am
<< Deleted >>
MMCougIII
2/14/19 10:19am
There’s mortality and there’s morbidity. Both are bad.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/14/19 10:42am
Yes, measles is deadly. See link from CDC
Archaea
2/15/19 7:05pm
As is varicela. Link
Archaea
2/15/19 7:06pm
Wakefield should rot in Hades.
Archaea
2/15/19 7:02pm
I'm not anti-vax but
spinner
2/14/19 8:04am
Would you have the same position if the topic were Global Climate Change? Asking for a friend.
John Doe
2/14/19 8:31am
See the issue when you try to change the topic like this
spinner
2/14/19 8:34am
I'll just put you down as 'no' then. Interesting that you blindly trust science in one area but not another.
John Doe
2/14/19 9:03am
I was actually just trying to not completely derail the thread
spinner
2/14/19 9:09am
‘Blindly’. LOL
CDV
2/14/19 1:40pm
I know. It's laughable that they do that unquestioningly and then defend it to the end.
John Doe
2/14/19 3:31pm
Yes because the science on a global and mountainous scale is behind AGW.
Troy McClure
2/14/19 9:10am
No. To lump all scientific skepticism in the same boat is off base.
Orem58thBall
2/14/19 3:34pm
Ya, I'm not convinced you understand how the climate models work.
joelvandyne
2/14/19 3:41pm
RE: No. To lump all scientific skepticism in the same boat is off base.
Defenestrator
2/15/19 8:34am
As a scientist who actually makes models of the earth for a living
BigEasyCougar
2/14/19 3:42pm
Then I invite you to jump into the previous discussion I linked above.
Defenestrator
2/15/19 8:35am
really, really bad at math is putting it nicely
Deleted
2/14/19 8:04am
Yeah, but tell that to the parents of a child who was vaccinated
Belboz
2/14/19 8:23am
I'm intrigued. Link?
John Doe
2/14/19 8:32am
a link to what?
Belboz
2/14/19 8:33am
Never mind, bricej13 got your back.
John Doe
2/14/19 9:05am
RE: I'm intrigued. Link?
bricej13
2/14/19 8:35am
Never forget. 🙁
Troy McClure
2/14/19 8:40am
I'm not anti-vax but
Troy McClure
2/14/19 8:25am
You're a rabid anti-anti-vaxxite!
Tim
2/14/19 8:28am
Guilty as charged.
Troy McClure
2/14/19 8:39am
Your clickbait technique is strong, and I agree 100%
Cachanilla83
2/14/19 8:29am
Bingo. I suspect there are a number of kids--statistically significant number--
TheDash
2/14/19 8:32am
Here's the problem with that argument...
StantonMac
2/14/19 9:01am
We already have that play out. There are some kids who legitimately can't get
Scratch
2/14/19 10:28am
That's true, but I assume that isn't who TheDash was talking about.
StantonMac
2/14/19 11:41am
This is a super weird post. You drop a "Bingo." And follow it up with a,
Dwight Schr-UTE
2/14/19 9:02am
"Statistically significant" does not mean 1 in 1 million.
TheWanderer
2/14/19 10:35am
RE: Bingo. I suspect there are a number of kids--statistically significant
rmreitz
2/14/19 2:02pm
The part about statistically significant and spacing out vaccines was garbage. Absolutely not well put.
TCuz
2/14/19 3:17pm
Allergy rates from WHO. You do NOT need to be spaced out. That is not true.
Archaea
2/15/19 7:09pm
How many other issues have gone off the rails in society with similar very rare exceptions? Hint: Many!
soupie
2/14/19 8:42am
My sister’s boy is severely autistic and is convinced it is linked to vaxx
Croweater
2/14/19 8:46am
Sometimes people just need something to blame.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/14/19 10:58am
Even vaccines are linked to autism the math still says to do it.
mudpupper
2/14/19 8:57am
Science hasn't even proven the earth is round yet
CougarHut
2/14/19 9:04am
Why do people keep claiming the earth is round? It isn't.
fbguru
2/14/19 9:17am
People just don’t care to know
youngbuck
2/14/19 9:40am
RE: People just don’t care to know
CommodoreCoug
2/14/19 9:46am
Please explain why you think the HPV vaccine is bad.
TCuz
2/14/19 9:48am
garbasail I would never ...
youngbuck
2/14/19 1:36pm
RE: Please explain why you think the HPV vaccine is bad.
youngbuck
2/14/19 2:02pm
Link utah tren Colton Berrett death after hpv
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 2:18pm
The CDC and public health experts and doctors know
Sumguy
2/14/19 9:56am
You realize that's like saying, "Parachutes sometimes don't open so I'm going
Byron McNertney
2/14/19 9:58am
So much bad reasoning in here
spinner
2/14/19 10:05am
How do you feel about the chicken pox, because in my mind
morris_center
2/14/19 10:11am
How do you feel about shingles?
Troy McClure
2/14/19 10:13am
^^^this^^^
spinner
2/14/19 10:17am
seems like a red herring to me
morris_center
2/14/19 10:21am
Shingles and ChickenPox are caused by the same varicella-zoster virus
Troy McClure
2/14/19 10:36am
Would you believe me if I told you that
morris_center
2/14/19 10:47am
That's an interesting study but contradicts the stats:
Troy McClure
2/14/19 10:54am
Note that this is a simulated model study, not a clinical trial/observed study.
TheWanderer
2/14/19 11:18am
Read up on chicken pox. It can cause some nasty long lasting issues.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/14/19 12:19pm
The other thing that goes along with this is even if you are a crazy anti-vaxxer
Scratch
2/14/19 10:39am
"herd immunity: for others to establish, for me to enjoy!"
spinner
2/14/19 11:15am
I would have gone with “exploit,” but yep.
Scratch
2/14/19 11:44am
That’s some pretty strong rhetoric which leaves people one option.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/14/19 12:25pm
Fine, but you're not tuning me out, you're tuning out settled science, basic
Scratch
2/14/19 12:28pm
I’m not Disagreeing with science. I’m disagreeing with your method of response.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/14/19 6:26pm
I'm guessing if it was your kid you may feel differently .. maybe not
youngbuck
2/14/19 2:36pm
There's a lot in there. If a vaccine did cause actual issues (so we're not
Scratch
2/14/19 3:04pm
So it’s okay for your friend but not for others? Really?
StalwartBraveTrue
2/15/19 8:29am
No, it’s not ok, but I’m much more sympathetic and can understand someone in
Scratch
2/15/19 9:02am
Sounds fair. Parenting is mostly irrational and illogical though.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/15/19 9:09am
See there you.go you just cant help yourself.."imagined risks" just stop
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 3:26pm
I’m not. I’m clearly differentiating.
Scratch
2/14/19 3:35pm
Okay..so devils advocate still..what are the risks of your child contracting
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 3:40pm
I agree..however we also shouldnt judge someone who doesnt vax if they have a
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 12:53pm
Sigh. No one, NO ONE, is saying that individuals with an increased risk to
Scratch
2/14/19 1:06pm
Unfortunately that hasnt been the case people are piling on people who report
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 1:16pm
You just did a 180. In your post above (12:53 MST time stamp) you said
Scratch
2/14/19 1:30pm
And that’s where a lot of parents get anxiety about vaxxing.
StalwartBraveTrue
2/15/19 8:41am
There are medically valid reasons that specific individuals can't be vaccinated
DapperDan
2/14/19 1:07pm
I wholeheartedly agree.
CarolinaCoug
2/14/19 1:16pm
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