I'm not anti-vaxx, but when you look at the risks that arise from vaccinations

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Feb 14, 2019
8:00:04am

Byron McNertney All-American

I'm not anti-vaxx, but when you look at the risks that arise from vaccinations

compared to the risks if the diseases the vaccines are helping to prevent, only someone who is really, really bad at math could ever be anti-vaxx. These stupid arguments about vaccines not being 100% risk free reveal an insanely ignorant understanding of risk management.

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Byron McNertney

Previous username: sonofchet
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Joined: Nov 24, 2006
Last login: Apr 25, 2024
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I'm not anti-vaxx, but when you look at the risks that arise from vaccinations

Byron McNertney

2/14/19 8:00am

that one dude that lied and said vaccines can cause autism is a real turd

Mayor of Cougartown

2/14/19 8:03am

And yet, he is practically worshipped by the anti-vaccine movement. SMH.

Delicate Genius

2/14/19 8:20am

Even though he has been proven wrong time and time again

Crazy Duck

2/14/19 8:31am

and also he said he was wrong.

Mayor of Cougartown

2/14/19 8:40am

but but but my best friend's cousin's sister-in-law had a baby that got

Crazy Duck

2/14/19 8:44am

Nice appeal to emotion.

morris_center

2/14/19 9:04am

<< Deleted >>

MMCougIII

2/14/19 10:19am

There’s mortality and there’s morbidity. Both are bad.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/14/19 10:42am

Yes, measles is deadly. See link from CDC

Archaea

2/15/19 7:05pm

As is varicela. Link

Archaea

2/15/19 7:06pm

Wakefield should rot in Hades.

Archaea

2/15/19 7:02pm

I'm not anti-vax but

spinner

2/14/19 8:04am

Would you have the same position if the topic were Global Climate Change? Asking for a friend.

John Doe

2/14/19 8:31am

See the issue when you try to change the topic like this

spinner

2/14/19 8:34am

I'll just put you down as 'no' then. Interesting that you blindly trust science in one area but not another.

John Doe

2/14/19 9:03am

I was actually just trying to not completely derail the thread

spinner

2/14/19 9:09am

‘Blindly’. LOL

CDV

2/14/19 1:40pm

I know. It's laughable that they do that unquestioningly and then defend it to the end.

John Doe

2/14/19 3:31pm

Yes because the science on a global and mountainous scale is behind AGW.

2/14/19 9:10am

No. To lump all scientific skepticism in the same boat is off base.

Orem58thBall

2/14/19 3:34pm

Ya, I'm not convinced you understand how the climate models work.

joelvandyne

2/14/19 3:41pm

RE: No. To lump all scientific skepticism in the same boat is off base.

2/15/19 8:34am

As a scientist who actually makes models of the earth for a living

BigEasyCougar

2/14/19 3:42pm

Then I invite you to jump into the previous discussion I linked above.

2/15/19 8:35am

Yeah, but tell that to the parents of a child who was vaccinated

Belboz

2/14/19 8:23am

I'm intrigued. Link?

John Doe

2/14/19 8:32am

a link to what?

Belboz

2/14/19 8:33am

Never mind, bricej13 got your back.

John Doe

2/14/19 9:05am

RE: I'm intrigued. Link?

bricej13

2/14/19 8:35am

Never forget. 🙁

2/14/19 8:40am

I'm not anti-vax but

2/14/19 8:25am

You're a rabid anti-anti-vaxxite!

Tim

2/14/19 8:28am

Guilty as charged.

2/14/19 8:39am

Your clickbait technique is strong, and I agree 100%

2/14/19 8:29am

Bingo. I suspect there are a number of kids--statistically significant number--

TheDash

2/14/19 8:32am

Here's the problem with that argument...

StantonMac

2/14/19 9:01am

We already have that play out. There are some kids who legitimately can't get

Scratch

2/14/19 10:28am

That's true, but I assume that isn't who TheDash was talking about.

StantonMac

2/14/19 11:41am

This is a super weird post. You drop a "Bingo." And follow it up with a,

Dwight Schr-UTE

2/14/19 9:02am

"Statistically significant" does not mean 1 in 1 million.

TheWanderer

2/14/19 10:35am

RE: Bingo. I suspect there are a number of kids--statistically significant

rmreitz

2/14/19 2:02pm

The part about statistically significant and spacing out vaccines was garbage. Absolutely not well put.

TCuz

2/14/19 3:17pm

Allergy rates from WHO. You do NOT need to be spaced out. That is not true.

Archaea

2/15/19 7:09pm

How many other issues have gone off the rails in society with similar very rare exceptions? Hint: Many!

soupie

2/14/19 8:42am

My sister’s boy is severely autistic and is convinced it is linked to vaxx

Croweater

2/14/19 8:46am

Sometimes people just need something to blame.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/14/19 10:58am

Even vaccines are linked to autism the math still says to do it.

mudpupper

2/14/19 8:57am

Science hasn't even proven the earth is round yet

CougarHut

2/14/19 9:04am

Why do people keep claiming the earth is round? It isn't.

fbguru

2/14/19 9:17am

People just don’t care to know

youngbuck

2/14/19 9:40am

RE: People just don’t care to know

2/14/19 9:46am

Please explain why you think the HPV vaccine is bad.

TCuz

2/14/19 9:48am

garbasail I would never ...

youngbuck

2/14/19 1:36pm

RE: Please explain why you think the HPV vaccine is bad.

youngbuck

2/14/19 2:02pm

Link utah tren Colton Berrett death after hpv

2/14/19 2:18pm

The CDC and public health experts and doctors know

Sumguy

2/14/19 9:56am

You realize that's like saying, "Parachutes sometimes don't open so I'm going

Byron McNertney

2/14/19 9:58am

So much bad reasoning in here

spinner

2/14/19 10:05am

How do you feel about the chicken pox, because in my mind

morris_center

2/14/19 10:11am

How do you feel about shingles?

2/14/19 10:13am

^^^this^^^

spinner

2/14/19 10:17am

seems like a red herring to me

morris_center

2/14/19 10:21am

Shingles and ChickenPox are caused by the same varicella-zoster virus

2/14/19 10:36am

Would you believe me if I told you that

morris_center

2/14/19 10:47am

That's an interesting study but contradicts the stats:

2/14/19 10:54am

Note that this is a simulated model study, not a clinical trial/observed study.

TheWanderer

2/14/19 11:18am

Read up on chicken pox. It can cause some nasty long lasting issues.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/14/19 12:19pm

The other thing that goes along with this is even if you are a crazy anti-vaxxer

Scratch

2/14/19 10:39am

"herd immunity: for others to establish, for me to enjoy!"

spinner

2/14/19 11:15am

I would have gone with “exploit,” but yep.

Scratch

2/14/19 11:44am

That’s some pretty strong rhetoric which leaves people one option.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/14/19 12:25pm

Fine, but you're not tuning me out, you're tuning out settled science, basic

Scratch

2/14/19 12:28pm

I’m not Disagreeing with science. I’m disagreeing with your method of response.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/14/19 6:26pm

I'm guessing if it was your kid you may feel differently .. maybe not

youngbuck

2/14/19 2:36pm

There's a lot in there. If a vaccine did cause actual issues (so we're not

Scratch

2/14/19 3:04pm

So it’s okay for your friend but not for others? Really?

StalwartBraveTrue

2/15/19 8:29am

No, it’s not ok, but I’m much more sympathetic and can understand someone in

Scratch

2/15/19 9:02am

Sounds fair. Parenting is mostly irrational and illogical though.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/15/19 9:09am

See there you.go you just cant help yourself.."imagined risks" just stop

2/14/19 3:26pm

I’m not. I’m clearly differentiating.

Scratch

2/14/19 3:35pm

Okay..so devils advocate still..what are the risks of your child contracting

2/14/19 3:40pm

I agree..however we also shouldnt judge someone who doesnt vax if they have a

2/14/19 12:53pm

Sigh. No one, NO ONE, is saying that individuals with an increased risk to

Scratch

2/14/19 1:06pm

Unfortunately that hasnt been the case people are piling on people who report

2/14/19 1:16pm

You just did a 180. In your post above (12:53 MST time stamp) you said

Scratch

2/14/19 1:30pm

And that’s where a lot of parents get anxiety about vaxxing.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/15/19 8:41am

There are medically valid reasons that specific individuals can't be vaccinated

DapperDan

2/14/19 1:07pm

I wholeheartedly agree.

2/14/19 1:16pm

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