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Update on the Bear Hunt
cornellcoug
6/9/21 5:29pm
Congrats!! Update us on the meat and preparations and your thoughts.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 5:33pm
I think that we are going to do the hams and mostly summer and Italian sausage
cornellcoug
6/9/21 5:43pm
Woh, does it usually take a big group of hounds like that?
D.T. Survivor
6/9/21 5:35pm
It is a super cool process that they do and they are always training new dogs
cornellcoug
6/9/21 5:43pm
Poor bear
BIG XII Coug
6/9/21 5:48pm
don't worry, he was probably a BAD bear.
Cougarclaw
6/9/21 5:55pm
My thoughts as well. I don't get it.
Zachs Mom
6/9/21 5:55pm
They taste great.
panacablue
6/9/21 6:04pm
In nature death is never pretty. It could easily be argued these bears had a more humane death than their cohorts
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:11pm
Is it bad TNT laughed at your sig?
TNT
6/9/21 7:05pm
Very.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 8:10pm
Not at all. Totally appropriate.
TailgateU
6/10/21 12:06am
Its ok. Bears, like dogs, are unaware of their own existence and dont even
Backcountry
6/9/21 5:56pm
What about deer? They keep eating my garden and I’ve about had it
A Drew Aitch
6/9/21 6:00pm
Same. Little robots. Driven by instinct. Also like dogs.
Backcountry
6/9/21 6:03pm
I don’t think anyone knows what animal consciousness is like. We don’t even
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:14pm
What about plants... they have a consciousness... we just don’t know how to
kotacoug
6/9/21 6:27pm
You’re making the assumption that I believe hunting is wrong because animal
Jstak17
6/11/21 1:51pm
Not a poor bear if you don't hunt them they will overpopulate, starve or succumb
BYU Grounds
6/10/21 5:18pm
Having a huge pack of hounds doesn’t sound like a hunt to me. Real sportsmen.
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:06pm
What, so you’re saying dogs can’t hunt? That’s mean
A Drew Aitch
6/9/21 6:12pm
I guess it’s a hunt for the dogs. Not the people. Any one that walks can follow
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:18pm
This is unequivocally not true. The second bear taken was 1.5 miles away
cornellcoug
6/9/21 9:15pm
What's your preference? Language warning. Nature is brutal.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:14pm
Yeah, sending a huge pack of dogs on a bear isn’t natural. They are trained to
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:20pm
Packs of wolves would disagree.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:24pm
Read my whole post lol.
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:25pm
The pack of dogs has natural ability to track and tree animals training aside.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:28pm
Would dogs hunt a bear in nature? Seems like they would go after an easier
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:41pm
So it is about fairness. Gotcha.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:46pm
In a recreational hunt yes. Don’t we always want fairness? However, in this case
Jstak17
6/11/21 1:17pm
It wasn't very fair when you ate that Carne Asada...
Jericho
6/9/21 7:00pm
Holy non sequitur. You really have trouble following an argument. I’ve been on
Jstak17
6/9/21 10:54pm
Took me about 13 seconds of time I will never get back...
Jericho
6/9/21 10:58pm
Maybe you should have used a few more seconds to think about how me eating meat
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:02pm
Just saying, you’re not much of a sportsman...
Jericho
6/9/21 11:16pm
I guess not. Apparently getting a pack of dogs to chase down wild animals will
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:32pm
Nah, just hire an assassin to kill your food and cook it for you at CFA
Jericho
6/9/21 11:33pm
You are trying way too hard. Really hard to have a substantive discussion with
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:36pm
Sorry. I am fine with people having opinions
Jericho
6/9/21 11:41pm
It should be pretty obvious why a pack of dogs chasing down a wild animal isn’t
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:03am
See, you did it again.
Jericho
6/10/21 12:08am
Talking to a 16 year old, unable to have a discussion on the merits. Maybe less
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:14am
Still waiting for your “argument” to enter the chat
Jericho
6/10/21 12:17am
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Jstak17
6/10/21 12:18am
Your argument
Jericho
6/10/21 12:21am
Yep nothing natural about man using tools to hunt.....
kotacoug
6/9/21 6:24pm
Umm, no. It’s really pretty simple. And I’m not taking some treehugger line.
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:32pm
Lol.... seriously you think hunts are suppose to be fair? Haha
kotacoug
6/9/21 6:40pm
Maybe at least a chance for the animal to escape? Do you fish with Dynamite?
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:43pm
We have been using dogs to hunt for centuries
kotacoug
6/9/21 6:46pm
Is it fun? I’ve read Where the red fern grows. That seemed more of a challenge
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:50pm
Subsistance hunting and trophy hunting are very different
Hotlanta
6/9/21 6:51pm
Unless your vegetarian your argument rings hollow.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 6:54pm
In all cases, “trophy hunters” are not only trophy hunting
Jericho
6/9/21 7:10pm
Anyone who brings up ‘trophy’ hunting in argument has absolutely no clue about
kotacoug
6/9/21 8:00pm
I’m eating the meat. In fact on Saturday I am processing all of it.
cornellcoug
6/9/21 9:00pm
You kinda lost me at "fair".
Eddie
6/9/21 6:48pm
So, I think you need to draw the line somewhere. I have no problem with bird
Jstak17
6/9/21 6:57pm
I’ve taken many more animals with archery than I have with hounds
cornellcoug
6/9/21 9:04pm
Absolutely, this isn’t a personal attack. Just doesn’t seem much of a challenge
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:01pm
I can understand drawing the line somewhere.
Eddie
6/10/21 8:20am
I’ve been kind of surprised by the reaction quite honestly. Granted, it was
Jstak17
6/11/21 8:35am
The reaction stems from the second sentence of this post. It just comes off derisive.
fldnstrm
6/11/21 8:53am
You are right, I apologized in the last post I made.Plenty of sportsmen on here.
Jstak17
6/11/21 12:43pm
Conversation is good - we all can learn from each other.
Eddie
6/11/21 9:02am
Its funny because as the author of this post, I never took offense to it
cornellcoug
6/11/21 9:06am
That's the beauty of CB. You don't have to get offended.
Eddie
6/11/21 9:15am
I came at you with the “real sportsman” bash. Glad you didn’t take offense.
Jstak17
6/11/21 1:56pm
What are your thoughts on the ethics of using scopes? Binoculars?
cougfanblue
6/9/21 8:13pm
I haven’t really though about it. Most seem fine. Do you agree that a line has
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:18pm
To your point. Excuse typos, it's hard to do on phone.
fldnstrm
6/10/21 12:26am
Thank you for your explanation. Definitely helps me understand what is going on
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:35am
Next time those guys go to a movie, I hope it's shown vertically. USE LANDSCAPE!
Cougar Junkie
6/9/21 7:47pm
Hunters are real conservationists. As opposed to people who whine about killing
Jericho
6/9/21 6:55pm
Why turn it political? No one here is whining about hunting. If you think thats
Jstak17
6/9/21 7:32pm
From a hunting perspective, it becomes death by a thousand cuts.
fldnstrm
6/9/21 7:44pm
Interesting, thanks for the explanation.
Jstak17
6/9/21 7:50pm
This is 100% accurate. Spot and stalk for bear is nearly impossible
cornellcoug
6/9/21 9:07pm
glad we got to the bottom of this.
Mayor of Cougartown
6/9/21 9:34pm
I went on a deer hunting trip that was chase hunting - it certainly seemed fair
Squeegee
6/9/21 8:28pm
I don’t know Squeegee it still sounds like Jstak knows way more than you....
kotacoug
6/9/21 8:50pm
Afraid to respond directly to me? I think a pretty good portion of people
Jstak17
6/9/21 10:46pm
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I enjoy hunting in many forms
cornellcoug
6/9/21 10:59pm
But surely you will admit that sending out dogs isn’t the most sportsman way to
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:05pm
RE: But surely you will admit that sending out dogs isn’t the most
Squeegee
6/10/21 8:32am
The article posted by squeegee appears to debunk your notion. At minimum it deserves a response.
fldnstrm
6/10/21 9:35pm
Is there a way to read more of the study? I can only get the first page. Anyhow,
Jstak17
6/11/21 9:44am
generally, if you have a .edu email address, you can log into JStor for free.
Squeegee
6/11/21 10:46am
Oh well, I don’t.
Jstak17
6/11/21 12:40pm
Keep posting you’re making a Yewt of yourself and it’s entertaining.
kotacoug
6/10/21 12:05am
Cry all you want.
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:21am
It doesn't sound like the big buck outsmarted you.
Eddie
6/11/21 9:51am
I’m curious what your feelings are on high fence hunting. To me it is all better
cornellcoug
6/9/21 9:13pm
Jstak17: "Nothing is more sporting than the meat section at Albertsons"
Jericho
6/9/21 9:28pm
Good one, not sure wha it’s going to take for you to understand that eating meat
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:20pm
Keep on backpeddling, I'm just enjoying the show
Jericho
6/9/21 11:22pm
That’s not an argument. Just more passive aggressive bs.
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:05am
Nah, just enjoying watching you try so desperately to prove your point
Jericho
6/10/21 12:13am
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Jstak17
6/10/21 12:26am
This really isn’t my argument. I don’t have a problem with hunting or eating
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:30pm
Hilarious that you cry about using dogs
Jericho
6/9/21 11:35pm
It’s hilarious, you can’t understand the difference between a recreational hunt
Jstak17
6/9/21 11:53pm
You’re the one crying about sportsmanship
Jericho
6/9/21 11:58pm
Point out those flaws then. You just keep attacking me. Stick to the argument.
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:11am
We’ve been through it
Jericho
6/10/21 12:15am
Just perusing through your posts the last few weeks. Sound like a miserable, sad
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:26am
Good luck on the internet. It’s not for snowflakes.
Jericho
6/10/21 12:30am
Thanks mom
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:36am
You’re welcome
Jericho
6/10/21 12:37am
You should read this post. See how someone who agrees with you can make an
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:42am
I think I’ve been patient
Jericho
6/10/21 12:46am
RE: I think I’ve been patient
Jstak17
6/10/21 11:19am
How many bears have you hunted?
JohnnyComeLately
6/10/21 12:05am
0, and I’ve asked people to explain how hunting with a pack of dogs is a
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:17am
RE: 0, and I’ve asked people to explain how hunting with a pack of dogs is
Jericho
6/10/21 12:18am
RE: 0, and I’ve asked people to explain how hunting with a pack of dogs is
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:19am
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Jericho
6/10/21 12:21am
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Jstak17
6/10/21 12:37am
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Jericho
6/10/21 12:39am
Just sad man.
Jstak17
6/10/21 12:44am
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Jericho
6/10/21 12:47am
I’ve never hunted a bear. I have hunted a lot of other animals though.
JohnnyComeLately
6/10/21 8:08am
That is why we put lots of spices in it and making sausage, not steaks!
cornellcoug
6/10/21 8:47am
Yes, I’ve had bear sausage before. It is not my thing.
JohnnyComeLately
6/10/21 8:49am
Look, I apologized to him. I’ve looked into it, and yes it’s much more of a
Jstak17
6/11/21 1:29pm
My answer wasn't good enough?
Squeegee
6/10/21 8:44am
Yes, it was good. I’ve responded to like 10 different people here. Sorry I’m
Jstak17
6/11/21 12:48pm
Prejudicial? I’ve repeatedly said I don’t care if others hound hunt. Like
Jstak17
6/11/21 3:21pm
Where in Idaho?
So it goes...
6/9/21 11:20pm
About 2 hours north of Boise past Idaho City
cornellcoug
6/10/21 9:41am
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