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nova_coug_fan
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Those are fair points, but they still point back to coaching issues
O-line coaching, running game coaching, recruiting issues all rolled into one. Football feels like a bit of a mess to me right now.
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Aaron Roderick’s failure at recruiting QBs is a disaster
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 8:52am
Isaac Wilson has no connection to BYU?
mulletino
Apr 30, 8:53am
He is who I was referring to when I said, “or even worse, is a fan of our rival”
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 8:54am
He grew up UofU fan, child of UofU alums and former player. Aside from his
BYUtka
Apr 30, 8:55am
He had 3 brothers play at BYU. One was an all-time great QB & #2 NFL Draft pick
CaliWG
Apr 30, 9:00am
And yet I don’t blame him for not wanting to go to BYU.
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:05am
What are the chances Hammond showed BYU no interest and BYU just moved on
Pretorian
Apr 30, 9:20am
You can only offer one QB a class. If they offered ‘24 QB they risk Isaac
Bobmarleyjr
Apr 30, 11:43pm
Arod offered a half dozen 2024 QBs. Don't be silly.
TexDaddy
May 1, 12:55pm
Who did he offer from 2024?
Bobmarleyjr
May 2, 10:43am
Zero chances that is true. It's not true. He would have accepted a BYU offer.
TexDaddy
May 1, 12:56pm
What are you inferring.
Cougstreak
Apr 30, 12:04pm
RE: And yet I don’t blame him for not wanting to go to BYU.
imdocrob
Apr 30, 4:03pm
Hammond WOULD HAVE served a mission had he gone to BYU.
TexDaddy
May 1, 1:25pm
He still can.
Jeffacka
May 1, 3:14pm
His family tells me he will serve later in life. I'm sure he will.
TexDaddy
May 1, 4:47pm
And yet, all jumped off the BYU ship
1984coug
Apr 30, 9:24am
He was an open book about wanting to forge his own path
stansburycoug
Apr 30, 11:57am
One, ZW was not an all-time great (2020 was a hoax) and Two, he recommended Utah
CallSign
Apr 30, 1:00pm
Which is why it’s more perplexing if Arod went all in recruiting him and didn’t
cougaman
Apr 30, 9:05am
Isaac Wilson has no connection to BYU? Hmm…
BlooCoug
Apr 30, 8:54am
How connected are you to a school your brother attended for a few years?
BYUtka
Apr 30, 9:03am
All his brothers.
BlooCoug
Apr 30, 9:07am
RE: All his brothers.
BYUtka
Apr 30, 9:30am
The Wilson's are not BYU fans... even a PWO would've landed Isaac
1984coug
Apr 30, 10:39am
We literally signed all of Isaac’s brothers
Zombre
Apr 30, 8:54am
All that shows is how obsessed Arod was with signing a QB who is a ute fan and
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 8:55am
lol k
Zombre
Apr 30, 8:56am
Because Will Hammond was actually a BYU fan
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 8:57am
Will Hammond was never interested in going to BYU.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:04am
You are in denial.
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:07am
His family and friends may have wanted him at BYU.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:12am
Do you know Will?
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:15am
I know what he said.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:17am
So you are basing this on second hand sources just like I am
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:20am
I never mentioned a source.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:23am
If you don’t know Will, and he hasn’t said publicly that he was never interested
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:26am
So you're making these claims without firsthand knowledge/sources? What?
HarlemCoug
Apr 30, 10:48am
Apparently Jeffacka knows better than Hammonds friends & family
BYU Fan
Apr 30, 2:52pm
Another CBer close to the family says otherwise
Preppy
Apr 30, 9:17am
Exactly.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:19am
No, I'm saying other reports were that Hammond DID want BYU.
Preppy
Apr 30, 9:35am
If he REALLY wanted to be at BYU, I have a feeling he would be there
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Apr 30, 9:40am
Haha. Lots of kids want to play at xyz school...but won't if not offered.
Preppy
Apr 30, 9:58am
I’m sure
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Apr 30, 1:56pm
Yes, reports from people who wanted him at BYU. Will just wasn't interested.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:44am
Not what I hear a couple years ago.
Preppy
Apr 30, 10:25am
I find it a little hard to believe an LDS kid who traveled to go to BYU's camps
CameronG
Apr 30, 9:27am
Lots of kids go to camps at different colleges.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:45am
Pay to travel from Texas to Utah every year to go to a school's camp you have no
CameronG
Apr 30, 9:48am
Going to camps is hardly a waste of time.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:53am
Stop. The. Spin.
vabeachcoug
Apr 30, 1:09pm
You're the friends and family I'm referring to.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 2:46pm
And you are the 1 of the spinsters
vabeachcoug
Apr 30, 3:02pm
Lemon suckers always complain.
refunder
Apr 30, 12:35pm
Every BYU QB ARod has recruited/coached has played in the NFL or has a chance to
Gorgias
Apr 30, 8:58am
Did he recruit wilson and hall?
Deleted
Apr 30, 8:59am
Kalani saved Zach Wilson. Hall committed to Detmer, IIRC
deliciousmocha
Apr 30, 9:07am
There's success getting QB's into the NFL, but getting QB's into the NFL that
BlueFever
Apr 30, 9:05am
That part of it has little to nothing to do with BYU.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:19am
Uh-huh. Of course, if Zach and Jaren were tearing it up in the NFL
BlueFever
Apr 30, 9:39am
It has nothing to do with training and development in the NFL.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 9:48am
Huh?
BlueFever
Apr 30, 10:20am
Whether or not someone is successful in the NFL has little to do with
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 11:44am
You place almost zero value on college football when
BlueFever
Apr 30, 1:13pm
You're not understanding.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 5:10pm
So you're saying Zach Wilson would be in the exact same situation
BlueFever
Apr 30, 6:29pm
I didn't say anything about Zach Wilson.
Jeffacka
Apr 30, 7:24pm
You don't have to say anything about Zach Wilson. It could be Trey Lance or
BlueFever
May 1, 8:17am
Good job making things up that I never stated.
Jeffacka
May 1, 3:43pm
That exact same statement could be said about every single college coach
Pretorian
Apr 30, 9:23am
Let's put it this way: BYU is no longer the "Quarterback Factory"
BlueFever
Apr 30, 9:45am
You must consider how byu came to be the QB factory….
Pretorian
Apr 30, 11:07am
So just camp at the portal with KS & ARod and hope one of the broken QB's will
BlueFever
Apr 30, 2:55pm
If BYU has been getting NFL caliber QBs with Arod then something has to be going alright.
greatbam
Apr 30, 11:31am
You seem to be attributing Hall and Wilson going to the NFL because of Arod — yet the guy has a dozen guys on the roster
Zach Morris
Apr 30, 9:29am
Zach is the only one, the rest were Bronco's. Zach may have been more Grimes
coolblue
Apr 30, 10:05am
ARod actually has recruited 0 players to BYU at QB who've played in the league
stansburycoug
Apr 30, 1:25pm
Kalani recruited those guys
runningryan
Apr 30, 7:58pm
Slovi
CarolinaCoug
Apr 30, 8:49pm
the "no connection to BYU" thing sounds silly to me
Belboz
Apr 30, 9:06am
Barring a miracle turn around (& a complete change in philosophy/culture) he and sitake are gone by end of ‘25
byuTX
Apr 30, 9:27am
I hope it is 24 and not 25
Deleted
Apr 30, 9:28am
Unless there’s a scandal, even a 1-win season won’t cost sitake’s job IMO. But will probably be enough to fire ARod
byuTX
Apr 30, 9:31am
Why keep a lame duck coach?
BYU Fan
Apr 30, 10:59am
Reduce the buyout, hoping he turns it around, don't want to hurt feelings, etc (Not saying I agree FYI)
byuTX
Apr 30, 12:47pm
Those seem like great ways to kill a program
BYU Fan
Apr 30, 2:36pm
They'd say it's also a way to save money, though in the long run it is likely to be much more costly
byuTX
Apr 30, 2:58pm
Based on offseason recruiting neither one of them look like someone interested in keeping their job
runningryan
Apr 30, 8:16pm
If he survives another year I will be shocked
Heath Squashwell
Apr 30, 9:28am
There is no indication he gets it
runningryan
Apr 30, 8:17pm
My issue with the recruitment of Isaac Wilson was that Kalani and ARod specifically choose to not recruit another...
Coug
Apr 30, 9:29am
Like you said, all evidence points to Kalani being an organizational mess
mudpupper
Apr 30, 9:57am
We're going into year 9 of his tenure & there's serious questions/doubt about
gopman
Apr 30, 11:49am
I agree with you, gopman. We're going into year 9
BYUJoJo
Apr 30, 7:37pm
I am on team Jay Hill after 1 season
MrSandman
Apr 30, 11:37am
Kalani not being organized will be why Tom will have to make a decision
gopman
Apr 30, 11:48am
Should have learned from the Utes. What was that dude's name they made promises to & missed on Zach because of it?
Soupie
Apr 30, 6:34pm
RE: My issue with the recruitment of Isaac Wilson was that Kalani and ARod
TexDaddy
May 1, 1:23pm
And yet Roderick coached ZW and JH. He gets no credit for that? And Slovis wasn't bad, the Oline just sucked
BYU Grounds
Apr 30, 9:34am
This post is about recruiting. He gets credit for recruiting Zach Wilson but
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 9:36am
And Grimes was the one in the Wilson's living room recruiting him the second he was hired...
Coug
Apr 30, 9:40am
He didn’t recruit Wilson did he? ZW signed before Arod was hired IIRC
byuTX
Apr 30, 9:40am
Zach Wilson signed his LOI on December 21st to BYU. ARod was hired as QB coach on Dec 28th.
Coug
Apr 30, 9:46am
No, Arod doesn’t get any credit for them just like it’s not his fault when others don’t make the NFL. The idea of giving
Zach Morris
Apr 30, 9:40am
Here and below you are misrepresenting coaching. It is both, recruit/development
NYC and Japan
Apr 30, 10:08am
He did a good job as qb coach with ZW and keeping that momentum going with Hall
palangi
Apr 30, 9:47am
I tend to agree
nova_coug_fan
Apr 30, 9:39am
Let's not forget the non-existent run game early on when Slovis was under center, teams went all in on defending the
dingus79
Apr 30, 9:51am
Those are fair points, but they still point back to coaching issues
nova_coug_fan
Apr 30, 10:30am
I agree with coaching issues, we had a talented o-line and good enough running backs to be more productive, I think it
dingus79
Apr 30, 10:32am
RE: Aaron Roderick’s failure at recruiting QBs is a disaster
OldFogey
Apr 30, 9:44am
Why don't we save our collective outrage for a few years and see what Will
StantonMac
Apr 30, 9:50am
Fans haven’t learned the lesson that star rating of a QB often doesn’t correlate
donnerstag
Apr 30, 10:56am
Hammond is at TTU and after Spring is QB3 of 5, beat out 2 incumbents.
TexDaddy
May 1, 1:15pm
Has someone charted where BYU runs their plays? Middle of the field seems ...
KCFan85
Apr 30, 10:04am
I commend him for going after the big targets. LaVell had great success with
Dwide_Schrude
Apr 30, 10:05am
I’m fine with that as long as he isn’t neglecting LDS QBs like he is right now
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 10:09am
This level of handwringing
Fido
Apr 30, 10:23am
Opinion: Unless A-rod shows a "massive" turn around at OC this yr, fire him.
BleedCougarBlue2
Apr 30, 11:03am
Who needs Yewts?
MadHawaiian
Apr 30, 11:04am
Fair point, but he definitely should have gone after Isaac Wilson
Hill4Heisman
Apr 30, 11:10am
I would blame Kalani before Arod. Chow, Anae, Doman, Detmer...we eat our own.
Parker Schnabel
Apr 30, 11:14am
Who did he miss on that lit it up already somewhere else?
Thrill
Apr 30, 11:31am
Jaxson Dart
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 11:33am
As expected.
Parker Schnabel
Apr 30, 12:58pm
On this happy note let us ignore Zach Wilson and Jaron Hall...
BYUFootballRocks1
Apr 30, 11:40am
Neither of whom were recruited by Arod…
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 12:20pm
That’s a lazy argument by cougarboard
I'mBatman
Apr 30, 7:56pm
Hand ringers
Beetdiggercoug
Apr 30, 11:46am
What about Enoch Watson?
2FarGone
Apr 30, 12:45pm
BYU is his only offer so he isn’t a great get until he shows
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 12:51pm
Conover had tons of offers. How did that work out for us?
2FarGone
Apr 30, 1:04pm
Thats why you try to sign more than one good recruit in your 6 years as OC
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 1:18pm
This post is a disaster.
ghettomagic
Apr 30, 1:11pm
What you are saying only reinforces my point: Arod’s qb recruiting is horrible
CaliforniaCougar22
Apr 30, 1:17pm
Utah got Isaac Because They Recruited Him Better Than BYU
ghettomagic
Apr 30, 1:29pm
I doubt that BYU could have gotten Isaac. Heck, his dad played at the U. The
84 natlchamps
Apr 30, 6:28pm
Isaac Wilson would transfer if they didn’t make him the backup, that’s the
palangi
Apr 30, 6:43pm
Mostly agree, but Isaac Wilson, come on?
lilpenny
Apr 30, 1:44pm
BYU could have come out guns a blazin' recruiting Isaac and Isaac would have
84 natlchamps
Apr 30, 6:35pm
Corrections: 1)Several issues with the claims that Will Hammond wanted byu all
ColonelMustard
Apr 30, 2:34pm
Dylan Dunn is going to be great!!!
The Natural
Apr 30, 3:32pm
This post will probably be triggering to the doomsdayers. You're welcome to skip
MaxxPower
Apr 30, 5:07pm
Well he’s going to crash and burn this year
runningryan
Apr 30, 8:04pm
Recruiting's a guessing game. Our top-rated QB recruits (Jake Heaps, Ben Olson,
TrueBlue58
Apr 30, 9:27pm
RE: Aaron Roderick’s failure at recruiting QBs is a disaster
TexDaddy
May 1, 12:54pm
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