Conover had tons of offers. How did that work out for us?

Isaac Wilson has no connection to BYU?

mulletino

Apr 30, 8:53am

He is who I was referring to when I said, “or even worse, is a fan of our rival”

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 8:54am

He grew up UofU fan, child of UofU alums and former player. Aside from his

BYUtka

Apr 30, 8:55am

He had 3 brothers play at BYU. One was an all-time great QB & #2 NFL Draft pick

CaliWG

Apr 30, 9:00am

And yet I don’t blame him for not wanting to go to BYU.

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:05am

What are the chances Hammond showed BYU no interest and BYU just moved on

Pretorian

Apr 30, 9:20am

You can only offer one QB a class. If they offered ‘24 QB they risk Isaac

Bobmarleyjr

Apr 30, 11:43pm

Arod offered a half dozen 2024 QBs. Don't be silly.

TexDaddy

May 1, 12:55pm

Who did he offer from 2024?

Bobmarleyjr

May 2, 10:43am

Zero chances that is true. It's not true. He would have accepted a BYU offer.

TexDaddy

May 1, 12:56pm

What are you inferring.

Cougstreak

Apr 30, 12:04pm

RE: And yet I don’t blame him for not wanting to go to BYU.

imdocrob

Apr 30, 4:03pm

Hammond WOULD HAVE served a mission had he gone to BYU.

TexDaddy

May 1, 1:25pm

He still can.

Jeffacka

May 1, 3:14pm

His family tells me he will serve later in life. I'm sure he will.

TexDaddy

May 1, 4:47pm

And yet, all jumped off the BYU ship

1984coug

Apr 30, 9:24am

He was an open book about wanting to forge his own path

stansburycoug

Apr 30, 11:57am

One, ZW was not an all-time great (2020 was a hoax) and Two, he recommended Utah

CallSign

Apr 30, 1:00pm

Which is why it’s more perplexing if Arod went all in recruiting him and didn’t

cougaman

Apr 30, 9:05am

Isaac Wilson has no connection to BYU? Hmm…

BlooCoug

Apr 30, 8:54am

How connected are you to a school your brother attended for a few years?

BYUtka

Apr 30, 9:03am

All his brothers.

BlooCoug

Apr 30, 9:07am

RE: All his brothers.

BYUtka

Apr 30, 9:30am

The Wilson's are not BYU fans... even a PWO would've landed Isaac

1984coug

Apr 30, 10:39am

We literally signed all of Isaac’s brothers

Zombre

Apr 30, 8:54am

All that shows is how obsessed Arod was with signing a QB who is a ute fan and

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 8:55am

lol k

Zombre

Apr 30, 8:56am

Because Will Hammond was actually a BYU fan

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 8:57am

Will Hammond was never interested in going to BYU.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:04am

You are in denial.

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:07am

His family and friends may have wanted him at BYU.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:12am

Do you know Will?

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:15am

I know what he said.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:17am

So you are basing this on second hand sources just like I am

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:20am

I never mentioned a source.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:23am

If you don’t know Will, and he hasn’t said publicly that he was never interested

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:26am

So you're making these claims without firsthand knowledge/sources? What?

HarlemCoug

Apr 30, 10:48am

Apparently Jeffacka knows better than Hammonds friends & family

BYU Fan

Apr 30, 2:52pm

Another CBer close to the family says otherwise

Preppy

Apr 30, 9:17am

Exactly.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:19am

No, I'm saying other reports were that Hammond DID want BYU.

Preppy

Apr 30, 9:35am

If he REALLY wanted to be at BYU, I have a feeling he would be there

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

Apr 30, 9:40am

Haha. Lots of kids want to play at xyz school...but won't if not offered.

Preppy

Apr 30, 9:58am

I’m sure

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

Apr 30, 1:56pm

Yes, reports from people who wanted him at BYU. Will just wasn't interested.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:44am

Not what I hear a couple years ago.

Preppy

Apr 30, 10:25am

I find it a little hard to believe an LDS kid who traveled to go to BYU's camps

CameronG

Apr 30, 9:27am

Lots of kids go to camps at different colleges.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:45am

Pay to travel from Texas to Utah every year to go to a school's camp you have no

CameronG

Apr 30, 9:48am

Going to camps is hardly a waste of time.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:53am

Stop. The. Spin.

vabeachcoug

Apr 30, 1:09pm

You're the friends and family I'm referring to.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 2:46pm

And you are the 1 of the spinsters

vabeachcoug

Apr 30, 3:02pm

Lemon suckers always complain.

refunder

Apr 30, 12:35pm

Every BYU QB ARod has recruited/coached has played in the NFL or has a chance to

Gorgias

Apr 30, 8:58am

Did he recruit wilson and hall?

Deleted

Apr 30, 8:59am

Kalani saved Zach Wilson. Hall committed to Detmer, IIRC

deliciousmocha

Apr 30, 9:07am

There's success getting QB's into the NFL, but getting QB's into the NFL that

BlueFever

Apr 30, 9:05am

That part of it has little to nothing to do with BYU.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:19am

Uh-huh. Of course, if Zach and Jaren were tearing it up in the NFL

BlueFever

Apr 30, 9:39am

It has nothing to do with training and development in the NFL.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 9:48am

Huh?

BlueFever

Apr 30, 10:20am

Whether or not someone is successful in the NFL has little to do with

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 11:44am

You place almost zero value on college football when

BlueFever

Apr 30, 1:13pm

You're not understanding.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 5:10pm

So you're saying Zach Wilson would be in the exact same situation

BlueFever

Apr 30, 6:29pm

I didn't say anything about Zach Wilson.

Jeffacka

Apr 30, 7:24pm

You don't have to say anything about Zach Wilson. It could be Trey Lance or

BlueFever

May 1, 8:17am

Good job making things up that I never stated.

Jeffacka

May 1, 3:43pm

That exact same statement could be said about every single college coach

Pretorian

Apr 30, 9:23am

Let's put it this way: BYU is no longer the "Quarterback Factory"

BlueFever

Apr 30, 9:45am

You must consider how byu came to be the QB factory….

Pretorian

Apr 30, 11:07am

So just camp at the portal with KS & ARod and hope one of the broken QB's will

BlueFever

Apr 30, 2:55pm

If BYU has been getting NFL caliber QBs with Arod then something has to be going alright.

greatbam

Apr 30, 11:31am

You seem to be attributing Hall and Wilson going to the NFL because of Arod — yet the guy has a dozen guys on the roster

Zach Morris

Apr 30, 9:29am

Zach is the only one, the rest were Bronco's. Zach may have been more Grimes

coolblue

Apr 30, 10:05am

ARod actually has recruited 0 players to BYU at QB who've played in the league

stansburycoug

Apr 30, 1:25pm

Kalani recruited those guys

runningryan

Apr 30, 7:58pm

Slovi

CarolinaCoug

Apr 30, 8:49pm

the "no connection to BYU" thing sounds silly to me

Belboz

Apr 30, 9:06am

Barring a miracle turn around (& a complete change in philosophy/culture) he and sitake are gone by end of ‘25

byuTX

Apr 30, 9:27am

I hope it is 24 and not 25

Deleted

Apr 30, 9:28am

Unless there’s a scandal, even a 1-win season won’t cost sitake’s job IMO. But will probably be enough to fire ARod

byuTX

Apr 30, 9:31am

Why keep a lame duck coach?

BYU Fan

Apr 30, 10:59am

Reduce the buyout, hoping he turns it around, don't want to hurt feelings, etc (Not saying I agree FYI)

byuTX

Apr 30, 12:47pm

Those seem like great ways to kill a program

BYU Fan

Apr 30, 2:36pm

They'd say it's also a way to save money, though in the long run it is likely to be much more costly

byuTX

Apr 30, 2:58pm

Based on offseason recruiting neither one of them look like someone interested in keeping their job

runningryan

Apr 30, 8:16pm

If he survives another year I will be shocked

Heath Squashwell

Apr 30, 9:28am

There is no indication he gets it

runningryan

Apr 30, 8:17pm

My issue with the recruitment of Isaac Wilson was that Kalani and ARod specifically choose to not recruit another...

Coug

Apr 30, 9:29am

Like you said, all evidence points to Kalani being an organizational mess

mudpupper

Apr 30, 9:57am

We're going into year 9 of his tenure & there's serious questions/doubt about

gopman

Apr 30, 11:49am

I agree with you, gopman. We're going into year 9

BYUJoJo

Apr 30, 7:37pm

I am on team Jay Hill after 1 season

MrSandman

Apr 30, 11:37am

Kalani not being organized will be why Tom will have to make a decision

gopman

Apr 30, 11:48am

Should have learned from the Utes. What was that dude's name they made promises to & missed on Zach because of it?

Soupie

Apr 30, 6:34pm

RE: My issue with the recruitment of Isaac Wilson was that Kalani and ARod

TexDaddy

May 1, 1:23pm

And yet Roderick coached ZW and JH. He gets no credit for that? And Slovis wasn't bad, the Oline just sucked

BYU Grounds

Apr 30, 9:34am

This post is about recruiting. He gets credit for recruiting Zach Wilson but

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 9:36am

And Grimes was the one in the Wilson's living room recruiting him the second he was hired...

Coug

Apr 30, 9:40am

He didn’t recruit Wilson did he? ZW signed before Arod was hired IIRC

byuTX

Apr 30, 9:40am

Zach Wilson signed his LOI on December 21st to BYU. ARod was hired as QB coach on Dec 28th.

Coug

Apr 30, 9:46am

No, Arod doesn’t get any credit for them just like it’s not his fault when others don’t make the NFL. The idea of giving

Zach Morris

Apr 30, 9:40am

Here and below you are misrepresenting coaching. It is both, recruit/development

NYC and Japan

Apr 30, 10:08am

He did a good job as qb coach with ZW and keeping that momentum going with Hall

palangi

Apr 30, 9:47am

I tend to agree

nova_coug_fan

Apr 30, 9:39am

Let's not forget the non-existent run game early on when Slovis was under center, teams went all in on defending the

dingus79

Apr 30, 9:51am

Those are fair points, but they still point back to coaching issues

nova_coug_fan

Apr 30, 10:30am

I agree with coaching issues, we had a talented o-line and good enough running backs to be more productive, I think it

dingus79

Apr 30, 10:32am

RE: Aaron Roderick’s failure at recruiting QBs is a disaster

OldFogey

Apr 30, 9:44am

Why don't we save our collective outrage for a few years and see what Will

StantonMac

Apr 30, 9:50am

Fans haven’t learned the lesson that star rating of a QB often doesn’t correlate

donnerstag

Apr 30, 10:56am

Hammond is at TTU and after Spring is QB3 of 5, beat out 2 incumbents.

TexDaddy

May 1, 1:15pm

Has someone charted where BYU runs their plays? Middle of the field seems ...

KCFan85

Apr 30, 10:04am

I commend him for going after the big targets. LaVell had great success with

Dwide_Schrude

Apr 30, 10:05am

I’m fine with that as long as he isn’t neglecting LDS QBs like he is right now

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 10:09am

This level of handwringing

Fido

Apr 30, 10:23am

Opinion: Unless A-rod shows a "massive" turn around at OC this yr, fire him.

BleedCougarBlue2

Apr 30, 11:03am

Who needs Yewts?

MadHawaiian

Apr 30, 11:04am

Fair point, but he definitely should have gone after Isaac Wilson

Hill4Heisman

Apr 30, 11:10am

I would blame Kalani before Arod. Chow, Anae, Doman, Detmer...we eat our own.

Parker Schnabel

Apr 30, 11:14am

Who did he miss on that lit it up already somewhere else?

Thrill

Apr 30, 11:31am

Jaxson Dart

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 11:33am

As expected.

Parker Schnabel

Apr 30, 12:58pm

On this happy note let us ignore Zach Wilson and Jaron Hall...

BYUFootballRocks1

Apr 30, 11:40am

Neither of whom were recruited by Arod…

CaliforniaCougar22

Apr 30, 12:20pm

That’s a lazy argument by cougarboard

I'mBatman

Apr 30, 7:56pm

Hand ringers

Beetdiggercoug

Apr 30, 11:46am

What about Enoch Watson?

2FarGone