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Feb 22, 2018
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Dynasty1
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In the 80's, 90's, and 00's we produced NFL talent at a higher clip than half of
P5 teams. That has dropped significantely over the past decade. That is the bigger issue imo
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I think we will look back on the Bronco years as a great era of BYU football.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:04am
I'm just glad he left under contract instead of being fired. That would make me feel even worse about the crappy
shimmy
2/22/18 10:06am
He was told by Tom his contract would not be renewed.
coolblue
2/22/18 10:53am
Allegedly, a year before it expired. I'm wary of that report.
shimmy
2/22/18 10:57am
From a family member and one other source.
coolblue
2/22/18 10:59am
That’s usually how it’s done.
jrj84105
2/22/18 11:43am
The 06 - 11 stretch is only surpassed by 79 - 85 as the best in BYU history
Dynasty1
2/22/18 10:07am
RE: I think we will look back on the Bronco years as a great era of BYU football.
Indy Coug
2/22/18 10:10am
I was expecting this:
displacedute
2/22/18 10:17am
Or perhaps:
displacedute
2/22/18 10:18am
How does Cinderella rank on TNT's great 80's hairbands list?
claw
2/22/18 10:45am
06-09 Bronco was amazing. Wish we could have carried some of that momentum
Windward_Coug
2/22/18 10:12am
We were on the cusp if not for devastating injuries to QB. At least we still won
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:17am
Yup. A down Bronco win was 8 wins and a bowl game, flirting with the top 25
RalphWiggam
2/22/18 10:24am
It really is as simple as QB health
Y05
2/22/18 11:30am
I think we all realize that Bronco’s floor was significantly higher than
RalphWiggam
2/22/18 10:13am
Would've loved to see Bronco with a senior and healthy Taysom/Jamaal.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:21am
Would have been a special season
MaxxPower
2/22/18 11:04am
I look fondly upon the 06-09 years. But not the later years.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 10:22am
A few more 4-9 seasons and the tune will change. People already think 6-7 wins
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:25am
I'd be absolutely ecstatic to hit Bronco's floor next year. That's a tall order
Dynasty1
2/22/18 10:27am
Nothing risked, nothing gained. Fortune favors the bold. etc etc etc.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 10:35am
Bronco's winning % from 11-15 was essentially equal Lavell's career winning %.
displacedute
2/22/18 10:30am
Lavell's teams finished ranked 50% of the years he was coach. Let that sink in.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 10:37am
And Bronco was 5/11 or 45%, In a much harder era for BYU to compete.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:42am
hence the reason I said I looked fondly upon the 06-09 years.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 11:00am
So you look fondly at a 50% for Lavell, but only a 100% portion for Bronco?
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 11:03am
Nope. I don't.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 11:27am
LaVell's teams were ranked in 5 of his last 15 seasons (33%) Let that sink in
Indy Coug
2/22/18 10:46am
and Lavell retired. Let that sink in.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 10:58am
In the incredibly awful WAC...can't compare across that long of a timeline.
TheLoneCougar
2/22/18 12:09pm
I wasn't the one who started the comparison. I was just responding to it.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 1:11pm
Yes, yes you did.
TheLoneCougar
2/22/18 2:08pm
haha. Okay. Next time we need a ruling for what is "acceptable", I'll ask you.
Bostonblue
2/22/18 2:38pm
Thank you, my ego appreciates it.
TheLoneCougar
2/23/18 7:19am
LaVell had a higher ceiling than Bronco
donnerstag
2/22/18 1:44pm
Bronco took over a program on a three year skid and in two years
RalphWiggam
2/22/18 3:34pm
No. Look at the experienced talent already in place
donnerstag
2/22/18 5:30pm
Lavell took a program on a 50 year average of winning 3 games a year and
Bostonblue
2/22/18 5:32pm
I’m not comparing Bronco to LaVell. I never would.
RalphWiggam
2/22/18 5:41pm
It was 3.7 wins. Sheesh, get your facts straight. SMH.
Y05
2/23/18 12:21am
I agree. Bronco hit his peak from 06-09.
eddog
2/22/18 11:10am
really? You'd call it "special?" Like '96, '84', '83, '80 kind of special?
Bostonblue
2/22/18 11:30am
Compared to going 4-9, it would feel special.
eddog
2/22/18 11:35am
Bronco is on the hot seat at Virginia. If he doesn't win more, he might be out
Richbyu
2/22/18 10:32am
Are there articles from Virginia stating that sentiment?
Indy Coug
2/22/18 10:33am
LOL. Took a terrible team and brought them to a bowl game.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:37am
Bronco doesn't get to play teams with worse resources anymore.
Richbyu
2/22/18 10:41am
My point is this, if you think he sucks at Virginia, it doesn't matter to how
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:44am
I think Bronco is going to have to have to start competing in the ACC or his job
Richbyu
2/22/18 10:47am
I don't care about what happens at Virginia. I am a BYU fan and Bronco had a
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:56am
Bronco had easier MWC schedules and Indy schedules than we have now....
Richbyu
2/22/18 11:02am
Myth: KS has had harder schedules than Bronco. Here are the Sagarin SOS:
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 11:05am
Now look deeper, look at the teams we beat, and the teams we lost to each year
Richbyu
2/22/18 11:10am
Sorry just disputing your claim that somehow we had easier schedules with Bronco
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 11:19am
Lavell never did much more than that either. It’s hard to do
jkccoug
2/22/18 3:38pm
Even then Texas was not a great team.
Cougstreak
2/23/18 9:41am
Next stop for Bronco is NFL DC
keylimesoda
2/22/18 11:07am
Not even remotely a good point
shakarocks
2/22/18 10:50am
I think you missed the point:
Richbyu
2/22/18 10:59am
Everything you ascribe to Bronco you can easily ascribe to LaVell
shakarocks
2/22/18 11:02am
Last year was Virginia's best season that they've had in awhile despite the
Dynasty1
2/22/18 10:40am
Bronco is what, like 8 - 17 in two years? Mike London was 12 - 13 his first 2.
notsofast
2/22/18 2:54pm
London took over a team that had gone 17-20 in the three prior years.
displacedute
2/22/18 3:36pm
No he's not.
shakarocks
2/22/18 10:40am
I think most Virginia fans are optimistic with the progress he has made his 1st
Agaricus
2/22/18 10:41am
Really - not even in the top 30 according to this website. Unfortunately, our
crack
2/22/18 10:42am
I like rankings that read Sitake, then Harbaugh, then Orgeron. It's a good look.
Still Questing
2/22/18 12:02pm
Not true.
Cougstreak
2/22/18 10:42am
He'll probably get 3 more years.
displacedute
2/22/18 11:44am
Uhhh.....no. Definitely not on the hot seat from the AD or school.
TheLoneCougar
2/22/18 12:10pm
And yet he was a very good BYU coach
jkccoug
2/22/18 3:37pm
just 06-09. the rest was meh.
johnnycarson
2/22/18 10:49am
How did you feel about LaVell's coaching years? And how does 4-9 feel?
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 10:55am
I’ll take “meh” over “ugh” which is what we have now.
canofpicante
2/22/18 11:21am
08 was OK. We didn't beat anyone good. Beat a winless UW team by 1.
notsofast
2/22/18 2:58pm
I think you are right.
coolblue
2/22/18 10:58am
AND IT WAS DONE IN A NON-POWER CONFERENCE.
canofpicante
2/22/18 11:20am
In the 80's, 90's, and 00's we produced NFL talent at a higher clip than half of
Dynasty1
2/22/18 11:23am
And then he bailed. After allowing the program, including recruiting start to tank.
byuTX
2/22/18 11:23am
Recruiting got substantially worse with KS who is labeled as a "great recruiter"
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 11:52am
I guess you are excluding transfers
slatecoug
2/22/18 11:53am
I agree it got even worse under Kilani, who isn't cut out for the job and whose teams struggled with BM recruits
byuTX
2/22/18 12:25pm
Uh, no. Bronco didn't seek leaving BYU, he was approached by UVA reps.
TheLoneCougar
2/22/18 12:15pm
Seems like your admiration for Bronco is distorting your perspective
Roko's Basilisk
2/22/18 11:55am
Lavell is a legend and always will be.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 1:53pm
True, but LaVell should have retired five years earlier.
Brisco
2/22/18 3:18pm
So Lavell should have retired after the 95 season?
eddog
2/22/18 3:36pm
And that time he walked in water...
Paul Hewson
2/22/18 11:59am
We spent very little time ranked after 2012.
D.T. Survivor
2/22/18 12:41pm
A little is a whole lot better than being ranked in the BOTTOM 10.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 1:33pm
I couldn't imagine a Bottom 10 ranking under Bronco.
D.T. Survivor
2/22/18 1:47pm
Why wouldn't we? They were great years.
andrewg3
2/22/18 1:07pm
In my opinion, Bronco took BYU as far as it will ever go again.
Traveshamockery
2/22/18 1:32pm
We were a Taysom 3-yard run vs U & a Hifo tipped pass against WV from winning 11
andrewg3
2/22/18 1:48pm
Of course we will have winning seasons again. That's not what I was talking
Traveshamockery
2/22/18 1:58pm
I didn't say that's what you were talking about. I'm saying we will have 11-win
andrewg3
2/23/18 8:50am
BYU peaked from 2006-09
donnerstag
2/22/18 1:39pm
How are you defining mediocre?
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 2:01pm
Several things
donnerstag
2/22/18 2:22pm
RE: Several things
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 2:45pm
RE: Several things
donnerstag
2/22/18 2:52pm
Everyone thinks of the coach of a certain era. I think of the players.
QBarrister
2/22/18 1:45pm
Program was a mess before Bronco and is a mess now with him gone.
Mr. Scoobs
2/22/18 2:15pm
I won’t. I witnessed the 80s
Croweater
2/22/18 2:09pm
Not me.
provokid
2/22/18 6:08pm
He's gone, get over it
Kerbouchard
2/22/18 7:35pm
RE: I think we will look back on the Bronco years as a great era of BYU
Gerald-DeGroot
2/22/18 7:47pm
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