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Nov 22, 2022
7:20:44am

Abe Froman Truly Addicted User

Yeah, that’s what he said.

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Abe Froman

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Depth, the problem for BYU…

ChinaFan All-American

11/22/22 12:06am

And yet fans think all that is needed is a couple of new coaches, good

BYURider

11/22/22 12:16am

So you're content to be a mediocre program from now on? smh

ManicBlue

11/22/22 12:25am

Yeah, that’s what he said.

Abe Froman

11/22/22 7:20am

no, but that's what it is. BYU's been a 8-5 / 9-4 program for 50 years with an

BYURider

11/22/22 9:54am

No one is saying we should be seeing 10-2 records every year. Problem is without changes we're likely

ManicBlue

11/22/22 10:06am

OK, I agree with that. We need IMO 4-5 coaches replaced. I really don't want to

BYURider

11/22/22 10:18am

No, problem is that you believe your suggested changes will do more than is possible now with guys who really are doing

ChinaFan

11/22/22 5:28pm

RE: No, problem is that you believe your suggested changes will do more than is possible now with guys who really are

ManicBlue

11/22/22 6:21pm

As a fan, you have few options but being content...

JstSain

11/22/22 12:00pm

Sure I do. Stop buying my season tickets and donating to the CC. Just like people did when Reid was the BB coach.

ManicBlue

11/22/22 2:12pm

You are correct...that is an option, but im not sure that go you want you wanted

JstSain

11/22/22 3:59pm

RE: You are correct...that is an option, but im not sure that go you want you wanted

ManicBlue

11/22/22 4:14pm

After 44 years? What has changed?

JstSain

11/22/22 5:12pm

RE: After 44 years? What has changed?

ManicBlue

11/22/22 6:15pm

Coaches are responsible for depth.

panacablue

11/22/22 12:33am

can't squeeze water from a rock my friend, I already laid out the limitations,

ChinaFan

11/22/22 5:29pm

How about just not a bottom ten defense? Apparently too much to ask

BYU '80

11/22/22 2:18am

There are 6 teams in the top 25 with 50th or worse defenses.

ManicBlue

11/22/22 2:40am

And byu could be there right with them but UCLA’s d looks pretty good at 81

BYU '80

11/22/22 3:35am

BYU having an elite offense last year is what masked how bad our defense was. As you said,

ManicBlue

11/22/22 9:41am

A couple of things ...

ManicBlue

11/22/22 12:24am

I think those top notch S & C staffs at places like Alabama are getting the help of top shelf pharmaceuticals.

PJMort

11/22/22 8:04am

I don’t think #4 is accurate. Alabama keeps a lot of player on the bench

ThatBYUFan

11/22/22 10:46am

Sure but they have players transfer too and not every team is Alabama that is competing for a NC every year.

ManicBlue

11/22/22 11:00am

I don't think there are too many fans who have expectations of BYU competing

wjman11

11/22/22 12:47am

Look here everyone, an informed take, complete with actual data and citations.

11/22/22 4:33am

Are those allowed?

crazY

11/22/22 8:07am

Removing 2020 is inappropriate in this analysis. Defensive efficiency adjusts

NYC and Japan

11/22/22 7:44am

The reason for removing 2020 wouldn’t be because it doesn’t fit the narrative

wjman11

11/22/22 8:13am

Also, BYU did not play ANY P5 schools in 2020. Our SOS in 2020 was 106 which is not even close to normal or

ManicBlue

11/22/22 9:38am

Hard to argue too much with this analysis.

Socrates Johnson

11/22/22 7:17am

Depth is a problem at every school outside the Bamas, OSU and Georgias

orrin7

11/22/22 7:22am

During #3 Michigan's Saturday game, the commentators kept talking about how

11/22/22 7:57am

Now do all the other B12 schools.

11/22/22 7:26am

There are clear scheme and strategy decisions that are lacking

canuckchuck

11/22/22 7:36am

The issue(s) is / are scheme and depth. Both are big issues.

NYC and Japan

11/22/22 7:47am

Yup, but it's always been this way, even in successful eras

11/22/22 10:01am

This is the reality few here want to face. Great post

JstSain

11/22/22 4:00pm

Those are challenges and a good coach will not use that as an excuse....

BYU Grounds

11/22/22 6:05pm

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