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Nov 22, 2022
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BYU '80
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And byu could be there right with them but UCLA’s d looks pretty good at 81
Byu isn’t close to that. Byu does lack their running game. Those other offenses are elite. BYUs is just very good
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Depth, the problem for BYU…
ChinaFan
All-American
11/22/22 12:06am
And yet fans think all that is needed is a couple of new coaches, good
BYURider
11/22/22 12:16am
So you're content to be a mediocre program from now on? smh
ManicBlue
11/22/22 12:25am
Yeah, that’s what he said.
Abe Froman
11/22/22 7:20am
no, but that's what it is. BYU's been a 8-5 / 9-4 program for 50 years with an
BYURider
11/22/22 9:54am
No one is saying we should be seeing 10-2 records every year. Problem is without changes we're likely
ManicBlue
11/22/22 10:06am
OK, I agree with that. We need IMO 4-5 coaches replaced. I really don't want to
BYURider
11/22/22 10:18am
No, problem is that you believe your suggested changes will do more than is possible now with guys who really are doing
ChinaFan
11/22/22 5:28pm
RE: No, problem is that you believe your suggested changes will do more than is possible now with guys who really are
ManicBlue
11/22/22 6:21pm
As a fan, you have few options but being content...
JstSain
11/22/22 12:00pm
Sure I do. Stop buying my season tickets and donating to the CC. Just like people did when Reid was the BB coach.
ManicBlue
11/22/22 2:12pm
You are correct...that is an option, but im not sure that go you want you wanted
JstSain
11/22/22 3:59pm
RE: You are correct...that is an option, but im not sure that go you want you wanted
ManicBlue
11/22/22 4:14pm
After 44 years? What has changed?
JstSain
11/22/22 5:12pm
RE: After 44 years? What has changed?
ManicBlue
11/22/22 6:15pm
Coaches are responsible for depth.
panacablue
11/22/22 12:33am
can't squeeze water from a rock my friend, I already laid out the limitations,
ChinaFan
11/22/22 5:29pm
How about just not a bottom ten defense? Apparently too much to ask
BYU '80
11/22/22 2:18am
There are 6 teams in the top 25 with 50th or worse defenses.
ManicBlue
11/22/22 2:40am
And byu could be there right with them but UCLA’s d looks pretty good at 81
BYU '80
11/22/22 3:35am
BYU having an elite offense last year is what masked how bad our defense was. As you said,
ManicBlue
11/22/22 9:41am
A couple of things ...
ManicBlue
11/22/22 12:24am
I think those top notch S & C staffs at places like Alabama are getting the help of top shelf pharmaceuticals.
PJMort
11/22/22 8:04am
I don’t think #4 is accurate. Alabama keeps a lot of player on the bench
ThatBYUFan
11/22/22 10:46am
Sure but they have players transfer too and not every team is Alabama that is competing for a NC every year.
ManicBlue
11/22/22 11:00am
I don't think there are too many fans who have expectations of BYU competing
wjman11
11/22/22 12:47am
Look here everyone, an informed take, complete with actual data and citations.
legiaourbana
11/22/22 4:33am
Are those allowed?
crazY
11/22/22 8:07am
Removing 2020 is inappropriate in this analysis. Defensive efficiency adjusts
NYC and Japan
11/22/22 7:44am
The reason for removing 2020 wouldn’t be because it doesn’t fit the narrative
wjman11
11/22/22 8:13am
Also, BYU did not play ANY P5 schools in 2020. Our SOS in 2020 was 106 which is not even close to normal or
ManicBlue
11/22/22 9:38am
Hard to argue too much with this analysis.
Socrates Johnson
11/22/22 7:17am
Depth is a problem at every school outside the Bamas, OSU and Georgias
orrin7
11/22/22 7:22am
During #3 Michigan's Saturday game, the commentators kept talking about how
Still Questing
11/22/22 7:57am
Now do all the other B12 schools.
Turnpike Lane
11/22/22 7:26am
There are clear scheme and strategy decisions that are lacking
canuckchuck
11/22/22 7:36am
The issue(s) is / are scheme and depth. Both are big issues.
NYC and Japan
11/22/22 7:47am
Yup, but it's always been this way, even in successful eras
akbarishiwatsu
11/22/22 10:01am
This is the reality few here want to face. Great post
JstSain
11/22/22 4:00pm
Those are challenges and a good coach will not use that as an excuse....
BYU Grounds
11/22/22 6:05pm
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