Apr 13, 2016
6:12:57am
6:12:57am
Being the victim of a crime does not eliminate accountability
For one's actions.
While the honor code office appears to be clumsy it has simply applied a common (for BYU) and well understood standard. You do drugs, you get kicked out of school. If a person engages in conduct that violates the honor code then there needs to be accountability for that. Even if the person is a victim of a greater crime.
Quoting from the article: "Students say Honor Code involvement means a victim who reports an assault faces possible punishment if she or he was breaking curfew, violating the dress code, using drugs or alcohol or engaging in consensual sexual contact — all banned by the code of conduct — before an attack."
This is how it should be. It is called accountability for one's choices and actions.
While the honor code office appears to be clumsy it has simply applied a common (for BYU) and well understood standard. You do drugs, you get kicked out of school. If a person engages in conduct that violates the honor code then there needs to be accountability for that. Even if the person is a victim of a greater crime.
Quoting from the article: "Students say Honor Code involvement means a victim who reports an assault faces possible punishment if she or he was breaking curfew, violating the dress code, using drugs or alcohol or engaging in consensual sexual contact — all banned by the code of conduct — before an attack."
This is how it should be. It is called accountability for one's choices and actions.
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4/13/16 5:49am
It sounds horrible. But I'll wait to hear something from a credible source before I give my opinion.
4/13/16 8:43am
4/13/16 9:58am
They didn't report a crime. They spent several months finding cases at BYU who were willing to voice
4/13/16 10:24am
4/13/16 10:30am
In sum, I'm waiting for more info to come out on a heated issue. You reached a conclusion before this story came out
4/13/16 10:36am
4/13/16 10:38am
this is complex - I'm undecided. But you're saying - do drugs and get raped then you get to stay in school. Do drugs
4/13/16 6:06am
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4/13/16 1:50pm
the problem though is that if we kick her out of school then no girl in her situation would report the rape and the
4/13/16 6:19am
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4/13/16 6:41am
in a false accusation case at least it gets to a hearing - in a "you're kicked out of school guarantee" then the rapist
4/13/16 6:34am
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4/13/16 7:10am
the reality is this - if you expel her - she won't report and the rapist stays on campus and goes unpunished. It's a
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4/13/16 6:52am
so let God judge. the question is.... is it a good policy to expel a girl who reports her rape and admits to an honor
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