Winning big has always been tough

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Apr 14, 2017
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Coogar2

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I trust Coach Rose

kC Cougar

4/14/17 4:53am

Me too. Good post.

rockhound

4/14/17 5:25am

Tony Ingle year was painful. Never saw MC that empty since

MajorZeus

4/14/17 5:43am

Po' Ingle could only do so much in tht situation. Guy wasn't a bad coach at all.

mantis mutu

4/14/17 9:28am

Ingle was only the fall guy for Reid's disaster.

ManicBlue

4/14/17 9:32am

RE: Ingle was only the fall guy for Reid's disaster.

kbufcoug

4/14/17 11:15am

RE: Ingle was only the fall guy for Reid's disaster.

ManicBlue

4/14/17 11:18am

Reid's personality lost him the players--that made the JC an imperative...

mantis mutu

4/14/17 3:41pm

Would you like to tell the whole truth about coach rose?

idacoug

4/14/17 6:12am

You don't get POTD nominations though for telling the truth about coaching

Ash

4/14/17 6:23am

CB likes warm fuzzies?

teancum

4/14/17 9:43am

Yes, we are so weak-minded that we let digital trophies direct our opinions

CougarBlue08

4/14/17 10:03am

Lol it very much does, which is why we get semi-regular

Ash

4/14/17 10:06am

Is it impossible in your mind that some people value things differently than you

CougarBlue08

4/14/17 11:51am

I'm simply making the point that there are certainly times when posters are

Ash

4/14/17 2:56pm

Are you serious? Are there really people on here that post

StalwartBraveTrue

4/14/17 5:22pm

I agree that there have been issues with postseason play.

kC Cougar

4/14/17 6:33am

His post season play IS bleak. his regular season play is excellent

idacoug

4/14/17 6:38am

Ah, that makes me feel better that you're sure he's disappointed for not winning

icecougar

4/14/17 2:27pm

MO? You make it sound like he's choosing to do something wrong.

gwalker

4/14/17 6:35am

Oh please. You know what I mean.

idacoug

4/14/17 6:36am

I don't play games. If I misunderstood you, I'll listen if you

gwalker

4/14/17 6:41am

I don't play games either. You are a little to sensitive to

idacoug

4/14/17 6:44am

I have no problem with that. Saying, "MO," "stubborn"

gwalker

4/14/17 6:55am

You are playing games now.

idacoug

4/14/17 7:03am

That's funny.

conetah

4/14/17 7:27am

Or .. maybe you should write what you actually mean. Weird how that works.

ManicBlue

4/14/17 9:35am

MO just means his way of doing business. Everyone needs to change their MO up...

icecougar

4/14/17 3:36pm

As for Coach Rose's MO...

icecougar

4/14/17 3:51pm

Have you ever looked into this?

Circa1978

4/14/17 6:39am

Wow....

idacoug

4/14/17 6:41am

Umkay

Circa1978

4/14/17 7:35am

Look, Rose hasn't won a single conference tournament and

CMuehle

4/14/17 8:47am

2 play-in games and 2 NIT trips is not the best BYU has ever been. It's a bad run for Rose the last 5 years.

The Dude Abides

4/14/17 8:58am

Okay but,

Circa1978

4/14/17 9:58am

Just rebutting your comment saying this is the best we've ever been.

The Dude Abides

4/14/17 10:06am

Again so what? Ron mcride elevated utah football and was doing

CarolinaCoug

4/14/17 7:00pm

Great post. You are 100% correct.

PortlandBlue

4/14/17 6:42am

I don't like the direction of the program the last 5 years. I hope Rose can get things

The Dude Abides

4/14/17 6:47am

Wow....that's sensible

icecougar

4/14/17 3:52pm

Coach Rose has actually recruited very good talent. The lack of a decent half

idcougarfan

4/14/17 7:14am

The problem fans are having with Coach Rose is the trend

thebruce

4/14/17 7:28am

also, the list of coaches you showed....is not an impressive list

thebruce

4/14/17 7:29am

Roger Reid's BYU coaching career is really pretty similar to Rose, actually. Reid was a good coach for us.

The Dude Abides

4/14/17 7:37am

Also just noticed Frank Arnold bio

thebruce

4/14/17 7:52am

Rose not winning as much since Jimmer and Dave Rice left but still wins

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:46pm

I endorse Rose but I don't 100% trust him.

mudpupper

4/14/17 8:08am

I am more concerned than ever about BYU basketball.

ColdFusion1989

4/14/17 8:29am

Huh?

ManicBlue

4/14/17 9:36am

Rose = real winner, but shows some systemic weaknesses

Coogar2

4/14/17 9:12am

RE: Rose = real winner, but shows some systemic weaknesses

ManicBlue

4/14/17 9:44am

Small ball is a Rose preference. BYU can consistently stock the larder with big

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:21pm

This post would have been a lot more applicable 5 years ago.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/14/17 9:13am

As an added element, it would be interesting to list the percentage of players serving missions during the tenures of

Rhino84

4/14/17 9:14am

I once did, but the last 6 years has seriously eroded most of that trust.

Cougar Insider

4/14/17 9:18am

Here's the problem. You can be grateful for Rose's past success while at the

Epileptic Beagle

4/14/17 9:52am

My first year at BYU was 1996. Had a buddy talk me in to going to one game

CougarAndMerlin

4/14/17 10:10am

Best BYU coach ever.

Sooner Cougar

4/14/17 10:11am

True but that isn't a very high bar

thebruce

4/14/17 11:24am

Stan Watts was the man. Great coach. Won big, but not as consistent as Rose

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:32pm

Also a different era and not very comparable to today.

thebruce

4/14/17 12:36pm

Winning big has always been tough

Coogar2

4/14/17 1:38pm

Post of the Off Season - Amen brother

chodilicus

4/14/17 12:09pm

Rose's system creates good offense when it is guard oriented.

thebruce

4/14/17 12:12pm

Scheme is not the problem

chodilicus

4/14/17 12:50pm

Scheme was a major problem.

thebruce

4/14/17 1:49pm

Sweet. Thank you. Totally agree. This change is evidence that Rose

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:29pm

Winning 20 games in today's era doesn't mean anything.

Blue for Life

4/14/17 12:23pm

That is what UNLV thought when they fired Dave Rice, and then went 12-21

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:30pm

Yep, just like we all thought there was no replacement for Bronco.

Blue for Life

4/14/17 12:36pm

Bronco wasn't fired. Look at schools who fire winning coaches. Most win less

Coogar2

4/14/17 1:39pm

Many expected better performances in WCC vs MWC

Fido

4/14/17 12:43pm

Great summary. The top of the WCC is better than the top of the MWC. Any time

Coogar2

4/14/17 12:51pm

Regarding the LP guys

teancum

4/14/17 1:39pm

Dave Rose would have taken tons of heat if he didn't land the LP3

Coogar2

4/14/17 1:43pm

Conceded.

Fido

4/14/17 3:45pm

Why are you so negative about this? Change is a good thing. It's like when you..

icecougar

4/14/17 2:22pm

Even the most ardent supporters can feel like a program has stalled.

OPINIONS

4/14/17 3:47pm

Yes no coachs ever peak or get passed ,or lose a program..Dont say stupid stuff.

CarolinaCoug

4/14/17 6:44pm

Afteakingmen

Gerald-DeGroot

4/15/17 12:52am

Not as rosy as you suggest

bigjohn

4/14/17 11:35pm

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