I've had several great meals with Tokolosh.

I don't get the idiots who are LDS but passionately hate BYU

Harrison0Yfan

5/13/17 9:29pm

I think it's a self-loathing thing.

TriggerWarning

5/13/17 9:30pm

Very few people hate themselves. Lots of people hate others. Self righteousness

ALUF 1990

5/14/17 7:53am

So you are unable to see how conflicted LDS BYU haters are?

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 8:29am

It isn't hard to hate things about BYU and love the church. No internal

ALUF 1990

5/14/17 9:04am

Well you appear to be good at justifying your failings....

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 10:05am

I'm tellin ya. Sometimes comments like this make even me hate BYU.

The Dude Abides

5/14/17 2:09pm

that's plain crazy talk there

pegushin

5/14/17 2:54pm

Hate away, join them, I'm not a denier of reality....

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 3:16pm

Lol...way to take it to the next level Dude

CLCougar

5/14/17 3:42pm

Ah the classic "it's ok to hate self righteousness"

BYU '80

5/14/17 4:52pm

So basically, Yewt fans (who aren't idiots) have lumped the Peter Priesthoods

ACrop

5/15/17 12:22pm

And yet you can rationalize your hate for Utah

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 11:22am

The disdain for the Yewts stems from the combined mix of their hatred for BYU & the Church

CLCougar

5/14/17 11:43am

Thumbs up to your comment, not the photo.

SaintGeorgeYFan

5/14/17 12:01pm

It's offensive, but for ALUFs in denial, evidence is necessary

CLCougar

5/14/17 12:02pm

It's one guy. BYU fans hating the U of U because "they hate the church" is just as bad as Utah fans hating BYU because

The Dude Abides

5/14/17 2:11pm

I get why you hate Utah, but am confused as to why that hate isnt expected to be

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 12:09pm

I personally don't hate all Ute fans, i just have disdain for the unchecked Yewts in their midst

CLCougar

5/14/17 12:30pm

I hate the denial by the yewt fans of this huge element amongst them. There are

pegushin

5/14/17 12:49pm

Im also guilty of stereotyping BYU fans based on several run ins with the "Holie

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 12:49pm

I hope you stay a part of this board. Everyone's perspective is skewed by personal experience.

CLCougar

5/14/17 1:05pm

I find the whole sacrament shot thing childish, but I do feel BYU fans act

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 1:18pm

I agree that bad behavior is found on both sides. In your video, however,

nephicoug

5/15/17 11:27am

I didnt make the video or several of the clips

Rise as Utes

5/15/17 1:27pm

As a BYU fan, I actually agree with you. Both fan bases have majority of good

Mark320

5/14/17 1:33pm

I think both sides get caught up in the hate that is usually only

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 2:04pm

And my favorite anti-UTE moment was being in LES in 2011 during the 54-10 route

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 2:14pm

I don't believe that....

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 3:26pm

By section I meant groups of fans in our section

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 3:50pm

It happens. Either you aren't aware of the behavior of every section of LES

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

5/15/17 3:12am

I hear it too when I go to LES, but it is rare. I've been to other college games

Mark320

5/15/17 5:03am

I agree. I have been to lots of games in LES wearing red. I was physically

ALUF 1990

5/15/17 10:25am

Amen. Our fans would never do classless things like throw trash at referees or jump out of the stands to fight a

The Dude Abides

5/15/17 2:08pm

the reason those examples stand out is because it's rare and not indicative of

pegushin

5/15/17 3:16pm

Yea you're right, they wouldn't. Great points.

CoachSpeak

5/15/17 3:21pm

You respond with holier than thou comments and no evidence

BYU '80

5/14/17 4:57pm

I didnt feel the need to as Ive already acknowledged the Ute actions

Rise as Utes

5/14/17 7:42pm

Haha no they don't. They talked about the groper on cb all the time. But way

IceCreamButt

5/14/17 8:00pm

I think most agree that byu has students that do dumb things

BYU '80

5/14/17 9:12pm

Calling someone "self righteous" is like calling them a racist or a bigot...

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 10:04pm

Couldn't have said it any better

BYU '80

5/14/17 11:14pm

Half that stuff there was nothing even wrong with...

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 3:29pm

"Actions of a few." Good one.

BYU '80

5/14/17 4:55pm

You are over the top.

Cougstreak

5/15/17 6:40am

It's not a few. I live near and work in SLC

BYU '80

5/15/17 7:40am

Thin skinned?

Cougstreak

5/15/17 10:56am

The original point was about how many fans engage in these behaviors

BYU '80

5/15/17 1:06pm

Oh and I have been outside the state plenty and

BYU '80

5/15/17 1:08pm

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Rise as Utes

5/15/17 1:30pm

You know it all!

Cougstreak

5/15/17 1:31pm

How does going to the u prove your point?

BYU '80

5/15/17 1:38pm

We can agree to disagree. Have a great day!

Cougstreak

5/15/17 1:56pm

wow, condescending just like you have been portraying a lot of the fan base of

pegushin

5/15/17 1:52pm

80' it is sad and disgusting for any person to abuse

Rise as Utes

5/15/17 1:35pm

LOVE IT, I wish we played all games with that intensity! This is football folks

TheLoneCougar

5/15/17 7:53am

I don't hate Utah....

CoachSpeak

5/14/17 3:18pm

Also happens to be the place with more anti Mormonism than anywhere else

BYU '80

5/14/17 4:54pm

If you need a temple recommend to be head coach...

Tsisquan

5/14/17 9:18pm

LOL

Cougar Insider

5/14/17 9:22am

I completely agree with this; but my question is, do you also see the

Extra Biscuits

5/14/17 9:28am

Whatever makes you feel better...

Jeffacka

5/14/17 10:05am

Confirmation bias

BYU81

5/14/17 1:02pm

There are few things

Playoff

5/14/17 2:24pm

ALUF why do you come to this board?

JmThms

5/14/17 4:57pm

You are so self righteous

BYU '80

5/14/17 5:03pm

Rivalry.

Cougstreak

5/15/17 6:46am

You seem to defend Utah at every turn

BYU '80

5/15/17 7:41am

Ha. I do defend silly generalizations as it makes Y fans look silly

Cougstreak

5/15/17 10:57am

They are not generalizations

BYU '80

5/15/17 1:12pm

I have a good view into this.

Cougstreak

5/15/17 1:39pm

Like I wrote above, this board is a fun place with interesting info. The haters

ALUF 1990

5/15/17 10:28am

You are so self righteous

BYU '80

5/15/17 1:13pm

I think some of the LDS USU fans might be much bigger haters than the Ute ones.

Lip Gallagher

5/13/17 9:35pm

I had a guy that did some military training with me that was a USU grad and he..

greatbam

5/14/17 2:57am

Agreed, too many BYU fans come across the same way.

Cougstreak

5/15/17 6:49am

Horse crap, not even close

pegushin

5/15/17 10:05am

Haha. "a few do seem to have more hatred for the U vs love for the Y". You can't even admit to the possibility of

The Dude Abides

5/15/17 10:13am

he is trying to position the argument to make it sound like the number of BYU

pegushin

5/15/17 10:33am

Seriously?

Cougstreak

5/15/17 11:03am

Maybe read my post again? I'm on your side.

The Dude Abides

5/15/17 11:34am

My bad, meant for Pegushin

Cougstreak

5/15/17 11:47am

if you believe that BYU fans have as many vile fans as the yew, I would guess

pegushin

5/15/17 12:09pm

You are one classy guy!

Cougstreak

5/15/17 1:20pm

the fact you had to give a disclaimer on yewt fans made my point 😁

pegushin

5/15/17 1:27pm

I get it. It usually has something to do with bad interactions with BYU fans or

The Dude Abides

5/13/17 9:42pm

Says the self-loathing and apologetic BYU fan

Mathlete

5/13/17 9:48pm

RE: Says the self-loathing and apologetic BYU fan

The Dude Abides

5/13/17 10:10pm

Isn't it disgusting when a fan recognizes that the fan base isn't perfect?

here's to hoping

5/13/17 10:48pm

Yet they completely ignore their own fans who are similar

CougarVeteran

5/13/17 10:24pm

Absolutely. Part of being a sports fan. Everyone else is the worst ever.

The Dude Abides

5/13/17 10:29pm

all rivals boards are the same..

Finngirl

5/13/17 11:26pm

My grandpa and dad were at "The Miracle Bowl" At halftime some belligerent SMU

cougarmikey

5/14/17 12:33am

I have yet to meet those "BYU can do no wrong." Fans.

Beetdiggercoug

5/13/17 11:22pm

I think you nailed it. That is exactly the reason I didn't even consider

ALUF 1990

5/14/17 7:46am

"yewt fans have their problems too" understatement of the year.

pegushin

5/14/17 7:47am

Most on this board seem to complain about everything byu does

BYU '80

5/14/17 5:06pm

It's a counter culture. Showing they don't have to conform and can think for

yorksama

5/13/17 10:24pm

Many didn't get into BYU, & that feeds a hatred. Especially when groups of them

BamaCoug

5/14/17 5:30am

welcome to CB. Stay long enough and you'll have days when you are so fed up you

Blue streak

5/14/17 7:13am

I've been here longer than you have, I know how it is

Harrison0Yfan

5/14/17 11:06am

I am not experienced to see the difference yet.

Cougstreak

5/15/17 6:52am

At the Ohio State BYU Holliday bowl game 1993, I had injured my knee. I hit an obnoxious

HighHorse

5/13/17 9:31pm

I am sure I saw that. I laughed half way back to Utah. Good work. That reminds

Pick-Six Coug

5/13/17 10:14pm

I took great pleasure in stepping on his jacket after he gave us the stink eye.

HighHorse

5/13/17 10:36pm

The fan who kept touching his jacket should repent.

CougarThug

5/13/17 11:51pm

Repent, NO. Repeat, YES!! He intentionally put his jacket on the floor at our

Pick-Six Coug

5/14/17 9:34am

I had friends come into town for the 2011 BYU vs USU game. They were extremely

IceCreamButt

5/13/17 9:31pm

Ha ha! Don't count your chickens.... I see what you did there.

BabyOx

5/13/17 10:50pm

Talk about being butt hurt

BYUSwoop

5/14/17 5:20pm

Being at the BYU/Utah game in Salt Lake City in 2000.

CrimWalCoug

5/13/17 9:44pm

The guy at church that started talking smack about women's gymnastics.

WJCougar

5/13/17 9:57pm

Sitting with UW boosters on 50 yard line in husky

notsofast

5/13/17 10:14pm

This one-- Ron MacBrides face falling as penney drops

PJMort

5/13/17 10:19pm

DOINK!

BabyOx

5/13/17 10:55pm

Two players I wish we could get on a regular basis:

Dr. 91coug

5/14/17 12:15am

Ron McBride could be a Bill Clinton body double

SingleStrapBackpack

5/14/17 1:03am

Lol, I've always thought so too.

shaggy

5/15/17 8:37am

I like the blatant block in the back at 2:12 right in front of the ref.

phageman

5/14/17 8:06pm

BYU hosting Boise St. in 2015

Short_Changed

5/13/17 10:28pm

No way. They don't sell Boise gear st LES. 😉

Y'zFan

5/13/17 10:42pm

I've had several great meals with Tokolosh.

byuTX

5/13/17 10:44pm

BYU/yewtah game in 2001. Sitting in our usual seats, and an annoying yewt

BabyOx

5/13/17 11:10pm

That was a great game. I was in high school and had my grandparents season tix

TheLoneCougar

5/15/17 7:28am

We were sitting in the upper deck during the 2001 game at Mississippi St.

rtNelson

5/14/17 12:39am

Easy - MWC tournament Jimmer Sr year after beating UNM, they were livid

OC Coug

5/14/17 1:08am

This year when we beat Gonzaga

CFMcK

5/14/17 4:35am

Lol, I do this with a good buddy as well!

TheLoneCougar

5/15/17 7:29am

Never met this guy, but he deserves recognition:

Gustav

5/14/17 6:29am

He is obviously good luck for us

yahtzee

5/14/17 9:05pm

What a tool. Spending that kind of time/money just to root against another team

BabyOx

5/15/17 9:07am

Best moment was against UNLV in basketball in 2011. I was living in Vegas and

Mark320

5/14/17 6:47am

Watching my sister dump beer in the crotch of a drunk Michigan fan

CLCougar

5/14/17 10:51am

Booing Hair Thompson at LES when he had to award BYU the MWC title in 2006

byuTX

5/14/17 11:43am

My BiL took me to LaVell's last game in Provo, and he's a huge U fan. One of my

Graig Swame

5/14/17 11:52am

Was he really cheering for New Mexico?

Jeffacka

5/14/17 11:58am

No he was being cool and took me for that reason, but he didn't root for BYU

Graig Swame

5/14/17 2:46pm

Does anyone cheer for New Mexico?

Graig Swame

5/14/17 2:46pm

Years ago on a trip to California for

Cougarvoice

5/14/17 12:47pm

Quick thinking, nice job!

TheLoneCougar

5/15/17 7:33am

I went to a BYU-New Mexico basketball game when I was a student

mwcoug

5/14/17 2:19pm

The moment he left.

Seaward

5/15/17 2:27pm

My uncle was at the miracle bowl

DoidoCougar

5/15/17 11:37pm

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