Remind me again which of those D's finished in the top 50 in the nation in Total Defense?

I'm curious where you hear are you hearing the smugness and condescension,

franklyvulgar

8/17/19 9:06am

Yeah, I was impressed by Wilson so not sure what he is going on about

Rise as Utes

8/17/19 10:12am

Go on my Twitter. Handle @BYUAnime. In my Tweets and Replies

BYUAnime

8/17/19 11:39am

Zach Wilson has the chance to develop into one of the best QBs in the ncaa...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:09am

Is it more smug to suggest that senior, proven QB is not as good as an injured, still unproven sophomore?

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:12am

Utah was down 27 to 7 through 3 quarters with a FR QB

Heinz57

8/17/19 9:16am

And they lost the game

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:22am

You missed a few of my comments

Heinz57

8/17/19 9:27am

LES has good views of the mtns, but the physical stadium is rough.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:28am

State money funded RES built outs due to the 2012 Olympics

Heinz57

8/17/19 9:35am

What do I care where the funds to build it come from?

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:36am

I wish the Olympics would build BYU a better stadium.

The Dude Abides

8/17/19 9:44am

Me too. Would be more comfortable when I go see Utah play there.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:49am

Haha! Now that was funny!!

truecougster

8/17/19 10:44am

I don’t think any state funds were used. It got $8M of Olympic money, which was

Scratch

8/17/19 9:48am

So a handout, like the law school

pegushin

8/17/19 10:26am

UofU received a payment

Heinz57

8/17/19 11:12am

Who cares if the Olympics help get it built they built it and it's better

Upanddown

8/17/19 12:30pm

I just went to Eccles and it's not much better. Same bleacher seats.

BlueForLife

8/17/19 6:10pm

False

Virginia Ute

8/18/19 11:37am

I went to two games there last year and sat in bleachers both times...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 2:21pm

There are not that many bleacher seats. Vast majority are chairs.

Jdoc

8/18/19 3:18pm

So I didn’t sit on bleachers?

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 5:16pm

Do you have reading comprehension issues? I said there are

Jdoc

8/18/19 5:22pm

I am sorry for his constant know it all’ness.

Cougstreak

8/18/19 5:56pm

It’s what he does. Quite frankly, it’s pretty funny but sad

Jdoc

8/18/19 6:05pm

You’re struggling here...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 6:44pm

I disagree. I never said there are no bleachers or tgat

Jdoc

8/18/19 6:49pm

I was teasing you...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 8:26pm

Let’s see what Zack’s numbers look like after the first 4 games this year

P12Envy

8/17/19 11:39am

Oh, you mean these numbers?

Heinz57

8/17/19 11:45am

And you thought was using that game to practice for the Pac-12 championships

Upanddown

8/17/19 12:24pm

I don't think we put up 27 on Utah this year.

BlueForLife

8/17/19 6:09pm

And their LBs are gone and will be much worse

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 6:56pm

When was the last time Whittingham had a really bad D?

BlueForLife

8/17/19 11:36pm

Did I say they’ll be bad this season?

puntersarepeople

8/18/19 8:35am

Our OL is back, and better

BYUAnime

8/18/19 1:02pm

What’s Huntley “proven”?

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:18am

That he is serviceable. That he can win a big game.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:23am

I’ll agree he has proven that he is “serviceable”...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:29am

How has Wilson proven that? By tearing it up against Liberty State, or by winning 3 quarters of a rivalry game?

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:30am

Anyone that can actually see can actually see he’s a better physical talent...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:37am

Son is a high school QB, thinks he’s now an NCAA talent scout ^^^

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:39am

Lets see 🤔 CoachSpeak or Virginia Ute assessment. CoachSpeak by a wide margin.

Dynomite

8/17/19 9:43am

Son is a D1 FBS QB...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:46am

Aside from your comment about him becoming one of the best NCAA QBs, I'm sure I would agree with you more than most

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:49am

What part of “has a chance” are you not understanding?

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:52am

Yeah, we all have a chance to become the best NCAA QB, I guess.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:53am

Do “we”? Mute you’re sarcasm because it’s nkt doing you any favors...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:59am

*your

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 10:01am

So you’ve failed and that is your last resort...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 10:05am

Wow, a grammatical error comeback is all you got? Glad you took that post grad

pegushin

8/17/19 10:16am

Wow

byuguns55

8/17/19 10:57am

You can’t have a logical discussion with CoachSpeak. Just know

UNHuskerCoug

8/17/19 10:58pm

This is so rich coming from you.

crazY

8/18/19 12:33am

I’m sorry I hurt you 😢

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 8:54am

You certainly did not hurt me. You are the most entertaining member of this

UNHuskerCoug

8/18/19 3:35pm

In denial, I’m not sure what stage of recovery that is but you’ve reached it.

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 4:21pm

Just move on. This is getting silly.

Cougstreak

8/18/19 5:56pm

Then don’t participate...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 6:45pm

What is silly is “know it all’s” dominating a thread stating the same thing...

Cougstreak

8/18/19 9:26pm

Not as funny as a yewt fan trying to pretend to be a BYU fan on a BYU fanboard..

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 9:32pm

You are looking silly. When you post ~45 times in a thread that is sad.

Cougstreak

8/18/19 9:37pm

You’re catching up to me...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 9:58pm

You are proving to be very classy. Don’t like it so call names...all class.

Cougstreak

8/19/19 8:55am

It’s interesting you bring up family wealth, because that means it’s more likely

Scratch

8/17/19 10:14am

Which is why he’s already a very accurate QB and knows where to put the ball

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 2:10pm

Sounds like Jake Heaps how many years has he been in the NFL now?

Upanddown

8/17/19 2:29pm

How many of your world beater QBs are in the league? 0

pegushin

8/17/19 5:06pm

except we don't know how he will heal from his shoulder surgery

Upanddown

8/17/19 12:41pm

Ive expressed that exact concern many times on this board...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 2:38pm

Huntley has never had a great quarterback coach which Ludwig is almost had

Upanddown

8/17/19 1:30pm

I gave this POTD. I couldn’t help myself.

UNHuskerCoug

8/18/19 12:00am

Ya, like the man says, he's muted on Wilson:

kos

8/18/19 5:51pm

Liberty State isn't a school. Good try, though, bud.

crazY

8/17/19 10:06am

Wilson three a critical pick 6 in that game too!

truecougster

8/17/19 10:54am

My thoughts exactly. I honestly don’t feel like Huntley has progressed or gotten that much better from 2017 to 2018.

Nuke

8/17/19 10:37am

Go watch Huntley in October, 2018.

Et Lux in Domino

8/18/19 5:36pm

um ... isn't Huntley coming off an injury himself?

ManicBlue

8/17/19 9:40am

Collarbone; not in the same league as throwing shoulder.

Stringer Bell

8/17/19 12:43pm

Wilson is no more injured than Huntley. Wilson is not unproven either.

slatecoug

8/17/19 10:38am

Totally agree - win period

truecougster

8/17/19 10:48am

We will get back to you August 30 😉

BYUSeahawks

8/17/19 12:18pm

I'm not going to agree with Rise Against's post, but I'm a little confused as to

Sock Gnome

8/17/19 4:42pm

Just curious, what has he proven? Has he won any big games?...

icecougar

8/17/19 8:29pm

Zach Wilson - Freshman behind a young OL. Huntley - Junior behind an experienced OL.

kccougar

8/17/19 9:14am

That’s just your opinion and stuff.

cougfanblue

8/17/19 9:15am

Zach’s a good qb

I'mBatman

8/17/19 9:16am

Great post.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:24am

I said that almost same thing in my first post...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:31am

Yeah except where you said “he may develop into one of the best QBs in the NCAA.”

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:34am

If Wilson played with Utah you’d be thinking the exact same thing, don’t lie

cougarnerd

8/17/19 9:36am

I’d be excited, but I don’t think I’d be saying “gee he may become the one of the best QBs in the NCAA” just get.

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 9:37am

Well, for good reason

cougarnerd

8/17/19 9:42am

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cougarnerd

8/17/19 9:44am

Of course you wouldn't. Your crap coaching wouldn't allow it

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 10:04am

LOL. A BYU fan calling Utah's coaching 'crap.'

Virginia Ute

8/17/19 10:05am

What Whitt has had them do with QBs the last decade is pure crap.

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 10:11am

Wasn’t ARod Whitt’s QB coach all those years?

BrobaFett

8/17/19 1:20pm

It doesn't matter who their OC is. That's the point

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 2:14pm

Actually it does.

DocPimp

8/17/19 6:15pm

Huntley is a better runner than Wilson and is also better at handing the ball

TBabyCougs

8/17/19 10:17am

Get over it yewt...Wilson dumped you guys and you are still

byuguns55

8/17/19 10:58am

Dumped us?

displacedute

8/17/19 10:59am

Yeah, but you know you wanted him and it grinds your gears

byuguns55

8/17/19 11:24am

I am ecstatic we have Wilson, he has a lot of potential, but get real...

Cougstreak

8/17/19 11:52am

*yet 🙂

sakar12

8/17/19 4:06pm

“He could” seems to me to be qualified, especially when I did qualify it in the

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:43am

RE: “He could” seems to me to be qualified, especially when I did

SWMOute

8/17/19 12:10pm

You down play Huntley so much but when has Wilson had

BrobaFett

8/17/19 1:22pm

Wilson had a really good bowl game against a bad team...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 2:43pm

He was very good against Utah and did pretty well for how bad his o line was

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 2:50pm

He absolutely had better tools than Huntley...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 3:01pm

Southwest Missouri St?

SWMOute

8/17/19 4:58pm

I didn’t mean anyone really, that’s the point...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 5:15pm

Honestly it seems like you are the one getting ‘offended’ and ‘worked up’.

DocPimp

8/17/19 5:53pm

They might have smacked WMU but they could have easily lost to Hawaii or NIU

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 6:03pm

Wilson has done notable things.

DocPimp

8/17/19 6:08pm

Except nobody did

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 8:01pm

I agree with all that. He has potential, looked really good in the Utah game

DocPimp

8/17/19 10:02pm

I did say “Huntley is who he is” and I stand by that...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 6:09pm

I think they were in other discussions we’ve had on the topic...

DocPimp

8/18/19 12:35pm

He wants a low risk offense...

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 2:34pm

I agree with all that, except for one part.

DocPimp

8/18/19 2:58pm

Although I want to make it clear...

DocPimp

8/18/19 12:39pm

RE: He absolutely had better tools than Huntley...

BuckElk

8/17/19 10:56pm

He had one impressive throw.

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 11:00pm

All I’m saying is we hear this every time.

BrobaFett

8/17/19 4:05pm

You’re high of you think Wilson was willing to take a walk on at Utah and...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 4:53pm

And you're high if think that Whitt screwed up with Wilson because

Stringer Bell

8/17/19 5:42pm

Whitt did screw up....

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 6:16pm

OK, if you think so. Tuttle was a real "team Player" after he committed

Stringer Bell

8/17/19 7:00pm

I don’t think Whitt screwed anything up.

BrobaFett

8/17/19 11:01pm

You need to be honest for me to be willing to discuss something with you....

CoachSpeak

8/18/19 2:40pm

My thoughts exactly. Let’s let this season play out and see where things stand.

BoiseBlueCoug

8/17/19 9:58am

According to Huntley's career, 12 games is long for him too. He's never done it.

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 10:03am

I knew we had some rational fans! 😂

truecougster

8/17/19 10:49am

This sums up my feelings. I'm not gonna say ZW is better than Huntley at this

Resurgens

8/17/19 7:57pm

Wait, you’re relying on the stats from PFF that ranked Huntley above Wilson?

Scratch

8/17/19 9:22am

That’s how I look at it...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:26am

In general a college sophomore is going to have more potential than a college

Scratch

8/17/19 9:33am

I disagree...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 9:50am

John Beck seemed to take a big step forward his senior year, so it does happen

BYUFootballisBack

8/17/19 5:14pm

Beck was better than Huntley as an underclassman...

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 6:18pm

I agree. All experts say Wilson is better

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 9:49am

Here's the only fact I need: Zach rules, Tyler drools. The end.

LiveCoug

8/17/19 9:23am

Here's the link to PFF's QB rankings

Tj_utefan

8/17/19 9:44am

You just triggered this super cool twitter account

maxpowers

8/17/19 9:45am

Haha that guy is a loser.

IceCreamButt

8/17/19 9:57am

Huntley will have a heisman year!

Gandolfthewhite

8/17/19 10:08am

Zach hasnt done anything yet. Y'all are risking making the same mistake you made

Backcountry

8/17/19 10:09am

Don't bring that sound logic and reasoning here!

letthewookiewin

8/17/19 11:05am

Its something that is lacking in both fanbases

Backcountry

8/17/19 11:19am

COMPETITION MATTERS. Unanalyzed stats lie all the time. Zach started against

ALUF 1990

8/17/19 10:21am

Stanford was the only team worth mentioning on that list.

crazY

8/17/19 10:25am

Stanford had the 90th ranked pass D from S&P and they gave up

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 10:32am

Interesting. I should have looked a little more closely.

crazY

8/17/19 10:36am

USC is not worth mentioning??? UMass = USC? Stanford = NMSU? Nope

ALUF 1990

8/17/19 10:35am

Yes and all that athleticism got them 5-7

TBabyCougs

8/17/19 10:46am

Nope. They had a bad year.

crazY

8/17/19 11:32am

this isn't 2004. all the athleticism in the world doesn't make you good at football. USC was not good last year. at all.

macaroni

8/17/19 12:09pm

LOL and now you're guilty of generalizations as well.

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 10:30am

If Wilson played the whole season, the comparison would be better. He would have

ALUF 1990

8/17/19 10:40am

Sorry but if you suck at something, you suck at it. It doesn't matter

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 11:09am

4* rarely suck. Some do - see Heaps & Tuttle. It looks like

ALUF 1990

8/17/19 12:12pm

I don't care about individuals. If a coach can't get any group of athletes

Lip Gallagher

8/17/19 12:29pm

you don't seem to understand the difference between strength of schedule and defensive rankings.

macaroni

8/17/19 12:10pm

The Pac South was very weak last year, not sure I’d go around talking up SOS too

chilango

8/17/19 10:40am

It is amazing how quickly U fans became P12 caricatures.

kccougar

8/17/19 11:37am

No joke. It took one or two years max.

Backcountry

8/17/19 11:42am

One game

WJCougar

8/17/19 4:52pm

PFF adjusts their ratings based on the quality of opposing units faced

Coop

8/17/19 12:20pm

oh brother! I remember one a BYU quarterback was compared with the best

grandpacoug

8/17/19 10:27am

As an Aggie fan it’s fun to sit back and watch BYU and

Truerblue

8/17/19 10:43am

Alright... you enjoy those games on Facebook Live

letthewookiewin

8/17/19 11:13am

I’d rather that my Aggies play on Facebook Live and win than have them

Truerblue

8/17/19 3:36pm

RE: I’d rather that my Aggies play on Facebook Live and win than have them

letthewookiewin

8/17/19 4:38pm

Do you actually think Utah st is going to sustain any sort of long term success?

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 5:11pm

With Gary Anderson, yes I do.

CrimsonCardinal

8/17/19 5:41pm

Will he stay more than two years? 😆

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 6:19pm

Who?

kccougar

8/17/19 11:37am

Remember the QB that put up 4 touchdowns on your amazing defense?

Truerblue

8/17/19 3:38pm

Ummmm....it’s utah state we’re talking about right?

CoachSpeak

8/17/19 5:12pm

Hey man give them some credit, they have beat BYU 5 times in the last 30 years.

IceCreamButt

8/17/19 5:59pm

And, when was the last time BYU had “one good season”?

Truerblue

8/17/19 7:43pm

You're right excuse me for speaking out of turn. I forgot I wast talking to a

IceCreamButt

8/17/19 8:23pm

Huh, looks about like BYU’s record over the last

Truerblue

8/17/19 8:34pm

Sure but our down years over the past 30 years have been the exception not the

IceCreamButt

8/17/19 8:48pm

Utah St. has been much more solid over the past decade than a majority

UNHuskerCoug

8/18/19 12:20am

How does PFF rank the two of them?

displacedute

8/17/19 10:53am

Those were the PFF rankings....

trom2foot3

8/17/19 1:52pm

Look in the corners of the boxes... Reading is hard

trom2foot3

8/17/19 2:20pm

No, those are PFF stats.

displacedute

8/18/19 8:40am

That’s obvious without question

BYUvermont

8/17/19 10:55am

RE: Zach Wilson is a better qb than Tyler Huntley. Stats don't lie.

Nationalchampions

8/17/19 11:23am

Big Z and Smooth J got this game.

PessimisticCB

8/17/19 11:25am

One thing I will say about Huntley and his stats he plays against better

Upanddown

8/17/19 12:14pm

NIU had a much better defense than almost all of the teams in the PAC 12 south

puntersarepeople

8/17/19 2:16pm

Get back to us when Zach puts up 40 points or more in a row

Stringer Bell